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Added to Lead to include more about career, influence of 1938 in his fame, work for General Macarthur, and canonization cause. Added subheaders to break up adult life - Boys Town came in his middle years; added Representation in other media to cover films - made award issues more concise. This does
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I have a suggestion/query regarding the line "He came to the USA in 1904". As wiki is a worldwide website, i think that the reference "He came" makes the wiki feel that is run solely by people from the USA. i would like to see the line changes to "He emigrated to" or "He left Ireland" or something
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above and lack of other participation. I note that the proposed article titles both redirect to the articles, and always have... more than ten years in both cases. There is no ambiguity, and no reason not to go with the common names. Our imaginations do not overrule our policies.
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if we have a better alternative. The full name is accurate and neutral, a primary redirect from Father (Name) is harmless. I'd only want to override COMMONNAME if the usage was truly common and widespread, e.g. the classic Mother Theresa example.
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in general, where it says that "Cardinal" (or other religious titles) are not generally used in article titles, even though most religious dignitaries are referred to using them. I see no reason to break the conventions for these two gentlemen. --
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not really belong in this article at all, because is is about Tracy (saying he wanted to keep the award), not about Flanagan. May put in Tracy's article (probably there), and only have indirect reference here.
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referred to as anything other than Cardinal Newman?). Should we move all of them? --
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