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appreciate the personal attacks and accusations. Also I don't mean to be rude, but you should probably acquaint yourself with Sri Lankan history. As this falls under it and it is where I mainly edit within wikipedia. Having said that I am happy to follow protocol (as I normally do) in moving this article. I have made it clear what I want to do and this was not a stunt. I am starting to think you have something against me, but if you are happy to start fresh I am too. To be clear once more I will start a requested move and hopefully we can get this over with. Is that ok with you?--
31: 1198:. Malformed request. What is relevant per WP naming guidelines is not the ethnicity of the person, or which languages are or were official in the kingdom, but what is the COMMONNAME in English. That is clearly "Elara" from what I can see, even when restricting sources to this century. If any of you wish to challenge this, please address the relevant issue, which is which name the king goes by 640:. And, she should stop removing constructive arguments against her edit. See her edit history. The concern raised by the section is legitimate. Oops, I think the IP changes while I reconnect; the edits on this page are done by single user, though. It was because of convenience of not having to create an account, not because of intentional sockpuppetry. 1536:, a Sinhalese Kingdom. No one is denying he was Tamil, the name Ellalan should be in that article too. My point is he is notable for becoming the King of Anuradhapura. If he was Tamil and Emperor of Japan, he would be known by his Japanese name, same with China and so on. The name Elara is more common historically and contemporarily.-- 587:: I am not a sockpuppet, these are IP ranges from Sri Lanka and I am from Sri Lanka. And, she removed my responses on my page; I never thought that just having a user account gives them the privilege of removing IP edits without a reason, on a Talk Page. Knowledge has a NOTHEARING policy too, as far as I remember. 1557:
You are misreading the facts. He was Tamil and he was not king of Japan but King of empire in Sri Lanka where Tamil is also one of language, specially in those era Tamil was also language, Sinhalese is not sole language of Sri Lanka. Are you claiming that in his kingdom only Ellalan was Tamil speaker
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If you examine the next section, titled ELARA, you can see where I laid out my position in regards to the situation some time ago as well as suggestions for how to file your controversial move request to engage discussion. I felt quite strongly you were engaging in clear shenanigans, but as I note in
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for this article, which the article has been known by for most of its existence. It is also very important to know that though a Tamil, Elara is mostly known through a Sinhalese context. ie. he was king in the Sinhalese monarchy in a Sinhalese kingdom and he is mostly known though Sinhalese sources.
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for this article, which the article has been known by for most of its existence. It is also very important to know that though a Tamil, Elara is mostly known through a Sinhalese context. ie. he was king in the Sinhalese monarchy in a Sinhalese kingdom and he is mostly known though Sinhalese sources.
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and I have gotten into many disputed before hand and hence I now have no faith in his edits. They are highly slanted and POV, in my opinion and I will not stand for that. (and I am not saying I am always right) I am not the only one to have disputes with him on similar topics either. However I dont
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In regards to your statement about why you moved, "and has been moved unilaterally and without discussion" - the chutzpah that you could conclude a consensus made FIVE YEARS AGO that you were a part of is in fact a unilateral move without discussion is just unbelievable. And right after an edit war
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you have already been warned about your personal attacks and I will not stand for it any more. My mistake it seems you were apart of it. Pardon me for thinking otherwise as for you are not the one to discuss an issue. I will not revert but I will start a new discussion to move. That does not excuse
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This is how you move a page when it is not appropriate to be bold. You really want to make an argument for a move, you need to tell us why you want to move it and you need to do it properly. Full disclosure: I have reported you to ANI for flagrant page move edit warring. I am also pretty angry you
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using the template {{subst:Requested move|NewName|reason=Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results,
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years ago and the only proper evidence on him is the Mahavamsa, and as discussed above there is hardly any evidence on him from India as well. I never said that he came alone or any of the absurd things you mentioned. He was a person from present day India who came to present day Sri Lanka and
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I'm sorry, how would you know this was a nationalistic move? I would regard that as a personal attack! You know nothing about me. I invite you to discuss as I have clearly given my reasons above and have stated that the previous move (before the last few reverts today) was also done without
1093:? I have no idea what the issues are, why Blackknight12 moved the page. He hasn't said. We should start by seeing if he wants to move the page (likely) and then we move to discussions about why. Literally no discussion, no way to word the RfC without understanding what is even going on. 1329:
that the motivations of users who have been sock-puppet edit-warring this page (not you) are part of a larger issue of ethnic tension between Tamils and Sinhalese people in Sri Lanka as we've seen all over Knowledge articles and a signal that we should examine the situation more
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unilaterally move a page in the wake of an edit war without any discussion and then "invite" me and other editors to "discuss". That is the opposite of consensus, that is bad-faith editing and I do not even understand how you could be on Knowledge for one year, nevermind since
1317:: I am concerned about a number of things. If anyone could discuss some of these issues I'd appreciate it, as I know WP:COMMONNAME is a powerful argument. I am willing to change my argument, but I want to have this discussion before I make a support decision. My concerns are: 85:
So we have a lot to do to improve this article rather than to prsent this Monarch as a real person when we dont have any evidence to it in India (where he is supposed to have come from) or Sri Lanka (epighraphic to support the literray source) 16:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC) -
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I don't know who you think I am, but I am not it. There was no malice nor anything shady in what I was trying to do. I was not involved in the above discussion or edit war about the Tamil script. Let me apologise to both of you for not seeing the above discussion as cited.
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and all of his subjects were Sinhlese?. Kings and Queens of British empire ruled India, so should we write their names in Hindi, Marathi, Urdu instead of English? At least Tamil-Sri Lanka-Ellalan are related things, its not thing like King of Japan and China.--
1435:: 5 April 2015‎ Copperchloride (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (14,265 bytes) (0)‎ . . (Copperchloride moved page Elara (monarch) to Ellalan (monarch) over redirect: Discussion pertaining to related section in talk page; Original name of the monarch) (undo | thank) 127:
On top of it the existance of the Early Cholas that early in history (that is the time frame of Elara) is being questioned by mainstream historians. So Mahvamas actually provides evidence of early chols but it is still only literry evidence not actual.
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Oh, I have seen the previous edit; if you are claiming that I am a sockpuppet then you are racist, because you KNEW that it could be written using Tamil script under his name on that top-left box in Latin script, but you removed it anyway.
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usurped the throne, becoming ruler, hence he is an invader. And please do not include your POV statements such as "Although he was an outsider with respect to the authors of Mahavamsa". I hope you understand and good luck for the future.--
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tool becomes a norm for naming articles(especially since there exist multiple entities with the same name;and you cannot connote a search for more than one word, For example in this case - Hits for "Manu Needhi Chola"). Thank you.
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Ellalan has also been an important ethnic hero to the Sri Lankan Tamils, including the Tamil Tigers, and choosing to name a Tamil hero king under a Sri Lankan name needs to be an actual decision, not just NGRAMS are
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Cool down IPs, don't harass anyone, as admins are saying, you should talk about content and not about editors. Moreover, I have added Tamil script in infobox, I think there is no problem in adding it in infobox as
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Said user has referred to me with many explicit slurs and is a sockpuppet; don't bother responding. This page was protected because of his deleterious editing and many of his IP socks banned for personal attacks.
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5 I am no expert on this, but I would say it is more the hero of the Tamil Tigers that Sri Lankan Tamils per se. However I am more interested in its historical and intellectual value than its propaganda
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NGRAMS show that Elara was very popular with the Orientalists before 1900 but the name usage declines sharply thereafter and while it remains in the lead, Ellalan has a modern surge with plenty of hits.
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It is one thing to assert that an editor's actions do not follow the letter or spirit of AGF, but it is another thing to accuse the editor of being a racist. I'm going to remind the IP in particular to
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Going by your ridiculous edit summaries/talk messages I am sorry to assume as such but I suppose you must be either you must be stone blind, or outright idiotic in your attempt to push your POV.
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discussion unilaterally. Neither was the editor in question apart of that discussion. I have presented fact, do not go about accusing me of being nationalistic while it is clear others are.--
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Interesting (and valid) concern. I always took it for granted that Elara is not just found in Mahavamsa but a well documented in other sources as well. Your comments is food for thought.
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Actually, Vijaya is an invader as well, because he came from " Present day India". I don't really understand why are these people so interested in wiping away the history of Tamils.
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changed the request from "Elara" to "Elara (monarch)"; that kind of change should have a dramatic announcement at the bottom of all currently lodged comments. So you removed the
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that common usage is sometimes less relevant when it comes to historical figures, especially since he was, in fact, a Tamil with a Tamil name and is hardly a household name.
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It is not make this edit and I stop; It is just that you are undoing edits for YOUR personal reasons; if you want to remove this section, then it should have been addressed.
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Multiple existing sources within the article suggest Elara is a corruption of the Tamil name Ellalan who was a Chola King. Also please clarify on what grounds does the
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There was no consensus for this move, so I've returned the page to the previous title until a consensus can be reached. Apologies for any confusion. Thanks,
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I dont believe the move made on 5 April 2015 is valid as there was no real discussion and the previous discussion ended in a no consensus, in favour of Elara.
1411:: 8 March 2006‎ - 19 July 2006‎ - Clozapine (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (4,399 bytes) (0)‎ . . (moved Ellaalan to Elara (King): Ellaalan is not the common name.) 1423:: 27 October 2009 - 4 November 2009‎ Tamilstyle (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (6,701 bytes) (0)‎ . . (moved Elara (monarch) to Elalan (monarch): The right name) 1349:. Also, there is leeway in official names that are not the common name. He was a Tamil and a Chola; he had a Tamil name; he is mentioned not only in the 1470:
article also states clearly "The Mahavamsa mentions that an ethnic Tamil adventurer, a Chola prince known as Elara, invaded the island around 235 BCE."
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2. There are "extremists editors" from both sides and I deal with them all the time, I have seen many come and go but that shouldn't distort the facts.
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Clearly it was not! And you were no where near the discussion. Check the history and see for yourself the unilateral move that you yourself made!--
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He was a tamil King, why you call him in a sinhalized name "Elara" ? The tamil pronunciation is "Elalan", I request to change the name in Elalan.--
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This article presents that Elara was an acatual king but he is known only from Mahavamsa and there are secondary sources that cliam that
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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To gain support through a whisper campaign? I struggled and failed to find a good-faith understanding of the situation you have caused.
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even draw you a map. You have not even bothered to tell us why you want to move the page. If you want to, this is the way to do it.
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I'm tired of personal attacks and threats. "Make this edit and I'll stop" needs a strong response and there's a huge backlog at SI.
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3. I don't think anyone is denying Elara/Ellalan is Tamil. However Elara was never a Chola king (in the sense he never ruled the
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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk%3AEllalan_%28monarch%29&type=revision&diff=672707949&oldid=672707707
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The article title in its present form (Ellalan) is incorrect and has been moved unilaterally and without discussion.
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The real name is Elara, not Elalan. If he were real, then may be he had a tamil name; but we are not sure of it.
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nationalistic reasons. There literally was just an edit war on this page about the name and you come and just
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Basically, I think this is way more complicated than it looks and I'm not convinced that a move is correct.
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1. He may have been fictious creation all along as it was written down 700 years after his supposed death.
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So you want to move a page. Is it uncontroversial? Okay. Then you should discuss at talk and/or file at
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to you to change it without evidence, without discussion, and I see you attempted this same manoeuvre
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I moved back some of these pages that were disruptive moves -- no consensus for the change in title. -
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2. If he were real then he may have not been an invader but a local usurper of throne that too a Hindu
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is restricted to lead and we already have numerous articles mentioning "native name" in infobox. --
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Sorry, how are you so sure enough to assert this? Knowledge is NOT the place to hold grudges; see
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Ah, I see what you changed in the nomination now, you changed the nomination out from under us.
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Elara, I am willing to put that behind me under the assumption that you will act appropriately.
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No, I did not change the target, the nominator already changed the target per this edit
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You can not say present day Tamils in Sri Lanka are related to Elara, he happened over
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is also found in Greek mythology and is a name of a Jupiter moon. Thats, why the name
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who ruled Sri Lanka from 205 BC to 161 BC from the ancient capital of Anuradhapura.
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That's funny, because it seems to happen when you get blocked for abusive behavior.
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You are a sock who has hurled incredibly rude slurs at me, but I will reply anyway:
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Oops, thanks, now I understand. But how do I warn a user about disruptive edits?
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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reminds me that the current addendum (monarch) is awkward and that the format
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User Blackknight12, I have moved the page title going by the point raised by
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Furthermore it is by far the most common and relevant name, see comparision
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moved. All your other claims for the move constitute just another bunch of
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here before you do so rather than blaming me for unilateral behavior.
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Why was rhe Tamil script of "Ellaalan" (எல்லாளன்) removed?
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no evidence given this is the primary topic of "Elara" --
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No. You are a sockpuppet and abusive. Stop talking to me.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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Should the page be renamed or remain at this title?
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Index

Talk:Ellalan
archive
current talk page
Archive 1
unsigned
User:Taprobanus
talk
contribs
Ritigala Jayasena
talk
15:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Taprobanus
talk
21:13, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Blackknight12
talk
07:40, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Sembiyan
talk
02:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Sembiyan
Taprobanus
talk
21:16, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Spaceman
Spiff
23:52, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Tamilstyle
talk
14:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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