1834:. a month I said that he was most favoured in knowing the real financial position in the Hedjaz. He then admitted that that figure was a guess, and he promised to send from Mecca an authentic budget for our guidance, and promised to urge his father to treat us in future with confidence. He is urging Abdullah to meet him on 20th April. If this meeting is arranged I will make endeavours to be present, since the three brothers might be brought to a definite issue about Transjordania. Abdullah can for the present keep external peace there; his rule, however, is more of a picnic than an administration, and can only be made scientific by an exceptional British adviser or, as was contemplated in our original scheme, by his resigning in favour of a Governor-General , and I think the sooner the better. Abramson promises well. Proposition of my going to Jeddah, although fenced round, was avoided."
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according to the agreement between the prince and
Herbert Samuel who visit Amman on 17 April 1921, for participating in establishing the new administration and the announcement of appointing Julius Abramson as a first representative to him in Amman (Note 12) This representative who was the First British Official will supervise the Transjordan affairs was called the British resident (Note 13).
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concerned about
Transjordania... Sir H.Samuel wants it as an annex of Palestine and an outlet for the Jews. Here I am against him.). The local governments, which never really went anywhere, in the end merely functioned as a stopgap measure. When Abdullah showed up, the local resistance pretty much folded and he was able to "conquer" the area without any fighting.
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Oh, I completely agree. The period is quite interesting, Samuel and co were, let's say, not really on board with what
Churchill and co were trying to do and even perhaps disposed to try and sabotage things a little bit. I will look out what I can. You should remember that Abdullah was "on probation"
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Having said all that, I don't object to a name change that doesn't include his name, I just don't like the formal title. I would prefer something that sounds less like paperwork and more of a process, "Creating
Transjordan" or something like that (and I would still put Interregnum into it if it were
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Interregnum article is intended to serve an important purpose in the series of country-time-period articles across Knowledge (XXG); in those articles, perhaps the most helpful navigation tool for the reader is the "preceded by" and "succeeded by" links in the infoboxes. I have just updated these
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where all of this can be put together along with
Herbert's first (also known as Salt conference), second and whatever visits. What can also be discussed is the question of whether the Balfour declaration applied to the area or not; some background on the Ma'an Sanjak; tribal leaders in the area; and
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While we are on the subject of dates, we can see what Faisal was up to in the same time period. I have him licking his wounds in Italy from around August and trying to get appointments in London (apparently at the behest of
Hussein who seems to have decided to forgive him for the whole Syria thing).
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Things were up in the air, Faisal was supposed to be installed at
Damascus and Abdullah was (theoretically per Syrian Arab Congress) going to Iraq. Then suddenly Faisal was floating and the situation was that the Mandates were delayed but the French had got theirs, the Zionists theirs and the Arabs
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I'm not really convinced, I tend to regard this whole period as being more about Iraq (Transjordan only existed as a vaguely defined region) and the
British trying to make their minds up about what to do (and how to do it cheap given money problems back at home). What's not that clear to me is what
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because it appears to make the core of the article just about his arrival at Ma'an. The article is intended to cover all of his actions from him deciding to go (30 Sept) to the country being under his control (end March). Perhaps the word "entry" is being stretched too far, so if you have any other
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Prince
Abdullah returned back to Amman after the conference on 30 March, 1921 to start from the 1st day of April establishing the central administration, asking Mr. Rasheed Tlee'a to form the first government which was formed on 11 April 1921 (Note 11) and few days after forming the government and
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Only just saw this comment now. I am certainly not wedded to the current title, but I do think the article should be about Abdullah's actions. When he made the journey originally it wasn't at all clear, even to him, that he was going to establish an Emirate of Transjordan. This was a political and
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Establishment of the Emirate of Transjordan - describes the Zionist attempts to have the area added to Palestine, the development of British Sherifian policy for the region, Abdullah's building of his authority over the region, starting with his father's decision for him to drop his plans for Iraq
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Had a quick look on the scholarship now, and none of them are using these terms. Most of the sources either use "entrance" or "arrival". But there are deeper problems rather than just the name; the problem of defining the scope. I am heavily inclined towards merging the interregnum and the arrival
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Yes, I see what you mean. I can't figure out whether he "decided" to go or whether Hussein asked him to go (because someone had asked him). To me, the most interesting thing about this time period is what both of the brothers (and Hussein) were up to and why. I am still thinking of it as all being
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where the Emir was based to inaugurate the aerodromes and he made a speech to a crowd stating Britain's policies. An Arabic source names Lord Edward Henry/Hay, Wind Ham Deeds, Lawrence and seven British advisors accompanied him. The advisors were appointed to help in governance. Gertrude Bell was
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and the scope would be defined from the fall of the Hashemite Syrian Kingdom in mid 1920 (or perhaps earlier to the onset or end of the Arab Revolt) to Britain's formal recognition of Transjordan as a state in 1923 (or perhaps later till the first organic law of the country was ratified in 1928).
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Abdullah's entry - describes his building of his authority over the region, starting with his father's decision for him to drop his plans for Iraq and move to "reclaim" Faisal's territory of Syria, his political outreach to the Transjordan local leadership and the ultimate occupation of the whole
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Once fully developed, this article should provide an in-depth answer to what exactly Abdullah did to get himself into the position of being appointed Emir of Transjordan by the British. There is lots of scholarly focus on this, as the decisions he took over these months were crucial, and scholars
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That is true but Samuel's primary interest was only in adding to the Zionist position in Palestine and Curzon took him to task for his intervention, spelling out that Britain (meaning Samuel as well) was to have a strictly limited role in the area.(Curzon wrote later in February 1921: "I am very
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Also Allawi's Faisal bio on page 318 would suggest (as Paris does as well) that redeeming Syria may not in fact have been on Abdullah's mind (although many sources do suggest that, I agree). It seems quite possible that the brothers may well have been looking at each other as competitors at this
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On the contrary, these autonomous governments are relevant to the Emirate's establishment. It was their failure that led the local population to support a unified national government under Abdullah and that led the British to support Abdullah. Also for example, how the British discouraged local
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Interregnum - describes the historical time period between the collapse of Faisal's Syria to the start of Abdullah's emirate, focusing on the various autonomous local governments that were set up, the Zionist attempts to have the area added to Palestine, and the development of British Sherifian
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The incident is also wrong. This picture is about the proclamation of Emir Abdullah as ruler of Transjordan in 1921, the Foreign Office assurance was a separate thing in 1923. And this begs the question, what happened on 11 April 1921 if it is designated as the establishment of the Emirate of
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Interesting minutes of the British Cabinet on 11 April 1921 but it seems to be discussing British military presence which was from what I understood apparently downgraded from a couple of garrisons to a couple of airdromes that would be frequented by airplanes from Lydda. The footnote that
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I can't really think of a suitable title, tbh. However I do think that where you have two articles now, one running from July 1920 to this one, running from September(?), it probably should be just one. The division seems arbitrary and I think the events of the two periods are in any case,
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Surely that is the whole point. There was no Transjordan then (other than as an ill defined region) and arguably would not have been without Abdullah having appeared on the scene, whatever his reasons were for doing so. It could just as well have ended up as part of
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The first sentence of the lead has 30 September 1920 until 2 March 1921, I think the first is some mistake? And the second is the arrival in Amman from Ma'an? The given reference has the arrival date at 11 November which I think is a mistake, it's the 21st, right?
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the scope of the article is intended to cover the period from his leaving Medina in October 1920 to his controlling the country by March 1921. It doesnât fit in other articles as a core component â this was a military and political event. I would have called it
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There were two conferences on the political status of Transjordan before Abdullah arrived and there was no mention of Abdullah other than the ambiguous demand to be ruled by an âArab emirâ. Putting Abdullah in the title makes no sense to me at all.
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Oncenawhile referred to explains that 11 April 1921 was the date of the establishment of the government by Emir Abdullah. I think details regarding 11-21 April 1921 would be of great importance to the Emirate of Transjordan's articles.
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I don't have any particular idea about the title although "Establishment of the Emirate of Transjordan" sounds to me more like the formal procedure than anything else, something less formal and using Abdullah's name seems
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Google the quote and you will find it under the name of "The British Resident in Transjordan and the Financial Administration in the Emirate Transjordan 1921-1928", I can't link it since it's an automatic pdf download..
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and move to "reclaim" Faisal's territory of Syria, his political outreach to the Transjordan local leadership and the ultimate occupation of the whole country, putting him in a strong position at the Cairo Conference.
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The AKoS, which in theory if not in practice, had been ruling the area, ceased to do so after Maysalun. In any case Hussein had incorporated up to Ma'an in the Hejaz. This period is what Once is calling the
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I can't see anything in Timothy Paris's work either. Nor in Alon. They all jump over that moment as far as I can tell, which is strange as I had understood it to be the proclamation of the Emirate. Perhaps
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to leave the eastern boundary of Palestine undefined, and to avoid âany definite connectionâ between Transjordan and Palestine, in order to leave the way open for an Arab government in Transjordan.
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That still requires two articles because the local governments during the Interregnum period do not fit cleanly into an article about "establishment". So to use my framework above, you would have:
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says that its on 18 April 1921 with Samuel proclaiming Emir Abdullah as ruler of Transjordan. I tried googling to find any sources discussing the visit and the proclamation but to no avail.
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leaders of Transjordan from meeting Abdullah in Ma'an. The interregnum period is the background to the nation's establishment. The way I see it that the name of the article would be the
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That thesis from Rudd (Idk who he is but Teitelbaum seems to approve of him) has a lot of material about Samuel as well as the local tribes and their politics.
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Transjordan if Herbert's proclamation was a week later on 18 April 1921? Wilson's book could contain this information but most of it is inaccessible for me.
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We are still on the same page about renaming this article into the "Establishment of the Emirate of Transjordan" right?
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