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against people from erstwhile east germany, east coast americans consider people from the south are 'hicks'. Is any of that racism ? At the same time this talk of racism against people from NE is going on, the largest football star and team captain of the national team is from the NE, a number of talented North East people have won national reality shows based on votes from the whole country and so on. I think a difference needs to be made between prejudice and racism.
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The fair skin obsession falls under human concept of beauty. It has been discussed in another article, I have read it. It cannot be under Ethnic relations in India. Ethnic relations is too broad, it will have to cover both discrimnatory and collaborative efforts. We want to cover the tension (not
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without any understanding of the earlier consensus and with ignorant reasoning. Since India has no history of racism, this word is not going to fit in. But if we are going to write only about 'racism' then there would be no article and will require merging.
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All the others talk about India's obsession with fair skin without a single mention of racism. India's obsession with fair skin is likely more complex than simple racism ('wanted, a fair
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well, Indians being notoriously less self confident, it has a huge impact on the social psychology and therefore on everything. one of the least recognised social phenomena even among intellectuals. uncomparable to blondes.
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