Talk:Exoplanet/Archive 2 - Knowledge (XXG)

2934:, for example). I fully understand why this would be desirable, with 242 references, even in two columns, the references fill *ten* or more pages for typical users, which borders on the absurd. OTOH, boy is the scrolling box ugly. At least, IMO. And I'm not trying to beat up Quantanew, who's at least trying to deal with the issue. One practical drawback is that you can no longer search (via the browser page search/find function), for anything in the scrolling box that's not currently visible (at least this is true in Chrome). For example, you cannot search for other references with the same author, if you wanted to do that. Clicking the reference number still takes you to the correct reference. 1506:

understandable by this change as the phrase free-floating then appeared without first introducing the term free-floating planet at the beginning of the paragraph. (this paragraph has since been moved to the planetary system article.) Things often have different names e.g. United States, US or USA, - that's what redirects are for and that's why articles usually begin by listing alternative names. They should not be changed to enforce consistency without reading and understanding the context in which each usage is used.

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don't know exactly how many there are. "hundreds" is too specific because it suggests that the number is known to the accuracy that it is possible to say hundreds but it isn't known that accurately. There could very well be trillions of planets in the milky way. i.e. thousands of billions, not hundreds. But we don't know. Maybe there are less than a trillion. Maybe more. All we really know is that there are billions, lots of billions, many billions.

3629: 3689: 31: 4096:. Also, there is no use to rehash which exoplanets planets are more interesting than others in such section. After the SPAM and COI are removed, we are left with the crowdsourcing projects fron Zoounivere, which I added to the summary of the Methods section. The undeniable fact is that the vast majority of volunteers work through Zoouniverse, and your only reason to push your section is to peddle someone's book. 3674: 1319:: (a) the lead is over long, (b) the table of contents is too extensive, and (c) the citations are not formatted consistently. There are several very short sections and paragraphs consisting of single sentences; some sections are merely lists of topics, wikilinks, external jumps or references. After 8 years of edits since its promotion, the layout and style of the article is considerably different. 674:" "Our galaxy is looking far more crowded and hospitable. NASA on Wednesday confirmed a bonanza of 715 newly discovered planets outside our solar system." "Scientists using the planet-hunting Kepler telescope pushed the number of planets discovered in the galaxy to about 1,700. Twenty years ago, astronomers had not found any planets circling stars other than the ones revolving around our sun." 461:

in the Milky Way. Base on the information in the (), if it's true that each star has about 1 orbiting planet then it would be true to have 100-400 billion exoplanets. It is totally contradicted by the precedent statement. I know planets in Milky Way and 100-400 billion exoplanets are referring to exoplanets. I don't know about you guys, but many billions

4664:, it seems obvious to me that if most planets are much larger than earth's, and they rotate very quickly around their sun, that we are only picking up the easiest to find, and there are many others out there that have yet to be discovered. Is it possible that something is wrong with TESS, or that we are too trusting of planet hunting technology? 3874: 4404:, he inserted a link to Quora Answers (hardly a reliable reference) in which he is again SPAMING his YouTube Channel. That is in addition of his multiple reverts. I have no time at the moment to open an ANI report and collect all the diffs required, until later tonight, but if someone has the time now, please go ahead. 4788:

we have on habitability is really just an overview, and it doesn't really talk about gravity much (or the size of the world), just general concerns about conditions needing to be similar. If you've got some specific wording, though, I'm sure that can be discussed (or, of course, clarification on what

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I looked at the link you show above, as well as the web site of Bruce Gary, and I stand corrected. Amateurs have discovered exoplanets from their backyard. My apologies. We can fix that in Knowledge (XXG), and I think the best place to create a section on amateur exoplanet detection is at the methods

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Material should not be removed for the sake of removing material, or merged for the sake of merging. The organization of the article should follow the logic of the topics, and not be arranged to meet quotas on paragraph length. Despite reverting the split to page 2 the article is already shorter than

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It sounds like you agree that the article is too long and parts need to be split off. I'm glad to hear this. The article as it stands today is not that useful for the general audience. I do not think that your change of moving the further reading sections into the article helped, but exacerbated the

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In the paragraph dealing with life on exoplanets, someone educated in the field of biology and development of life on earth should say something about the fact that for earth, complex lifeforms emerged only after 4 billion years and chances are that conditions on any planet just take so much time too

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and he also promoted it in a few WP articles. I am grateful the Administrators accepted to look into this self-promotion and editing abuses. Whatever relevance of amateur discoveries of exoplanets remains to be seen, and whether they are significant to be mentioned in the Methods article, but I have

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section of the methods page. Planet hunters (etc.) is one way or processing the data; i.e., the method is suitable to the utilisation of citizen science. That the method can even benefit from amateur level setups should be listed as one of its advantages. The first discoveries (not detections) using

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discusses the various limitations in more depth, a more specific and succinct addressing of the detectability bias would probably be a good idea. I too have heard people consider the relative rarity of detected earth-sized planets as evidence of actual rarity. I don't know if this should go in the

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You also inserted an unnecessary MJ into the middle of the sentence "The most massive planet listed on the NASA Exoplanet Archive is DENIS-P J082303.1-491201 b, about 29 times the mass of Jupiter, although according to most definitions of a planet, it is too massive to be a planet and may be a brown

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Thank you whoever put in the intro that almost all the planets we have found (via transit method) have been inner orbit planets close to Red Dwarfs, and virtually none of the Earth-type planets around main-sequence stars such as the Sun (I.E. most likely to have life) can even be seen by transit or

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For centuries scientists, philosophers, and science fiction writers suspected that extrasolar planets existed, but there was no way of knowing whether they existed, how common they were, or how similar they might be to the planets of the Solar System. Various detection claims made in the nineteenth

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By no means I own any youtube channel and by no means I'm promoting anything. I have added sources from several youtube channels that I consider professional. And again, the amateur section is not about planet hunters, but a large array of important discoveries made by amateurs (including habitable

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I agree. The fact that a couple of known regular transits (not "discoveries") can be observed from your backyard is trivia best mentioned in the methods article. In addition, no amateurs discover planets in their backyard, but are part of focused projects using crowdsourcing to screen data. Cheers,

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In response to the suggestion that this article is too long, I suggest that the section on orbital parameters can be split out into its own separate article. Very little of the information is special about exoplanets. Much is relevant to the Solar System, including comets and interplanetary probes.

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Reference 83 is a duplicate of reference 50. Not sure of the best method to fix this. Ref 75 is used in two places and has added a name to use the second time. Is this the proper way to avoid messing things up? Ref 83 has supplied only the publication year (not month or day), but they are otherwise

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I found the second version difficult to read. I'm not sure it is necessary for this sentence to specify the point on the star that the distance is measured from because the sentence is talking about approximateness. On the other hand the section as a whole is distinguishing between different points

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OK I fixed the wrong problem before, but now I see the real problem. "It is expected that there are many billions of planets in the Milky Way (at least one planet, on average, orbiting around each star, resulting in 100–400 billion exoplanets)." OK I looked up that there are about 400 billion stars

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I give new approach for this case ,as you will see the chemical kinetic which produces generally water and ammonia and methane in outer part of solar system that contains three planets body together with some planet’s atmosphere and comets body are made now not remaining from first solar system

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I fail to see how "crowdsourcing" means these weren't amateur discoveries. In fact a quick check of the papers shows they are listed as co-authors. Perhaps this section can be improved (yes the book is over the top), but the fact that non-scientists have detected planets that have been missed by

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I was copyediting the same things at the same time you were. I redid the 'free floating, "rogue" planets, not orbiting any star' part, because that is poor text. In this case "rogue" breaks the sentence flow because it adds only a synonym (presented in quotes!) in a structure that suggests it adds

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I don't think it is long enough. Many of the sections hardly say anything. I think it would be even worse as short articles - there are already dozens of very short Knowledge (XXG) articles on exoplanets which could be merged into this one. I've moved the further reading items into the sections of

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I've deleted the 100-400b bit because: "at least 1 planet on average per star with an estimated 100-400b stars" does NOT mean 100-400b planets. It means "at least 100-400b planets". However that isn't a useful sentence. Combining a lowest estimate for planets per star with a range of estimates for

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But since I've never seen references done with a scrolling box, or in a collapsible section, I'm first wondering if there's well established policy on how to deal with very long lists of references? Is a scrolling reference box (or a collapsed reference section) even acceptable? Or at least are

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As for another wikilink far down in the article: readers may want to go to the article about it, only to find they either have to use Knowledge (XXG)'s search function or have to search the article for the relevant wikilink, which may make it useful to repeat a wikilink occasionally. Links to the

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QUOTE: “This artist's impression of the Beta Pictoris system shows carbon monoxide gas permeating the star's dusty debris disc. Astronomers say this gas could be the signs of a massive collision of two icy, Mars-sized planets or constant collisions among a population of comets. (F. Reddy / NASA's

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New version: "If the sizes of the star and planet are relatively small compared to the size of the orbit and the orbit is nearly circular and the center of mass is not too far from the star's center, such as in the Earth-Sun system, then the distance from any point on the star to any point on the

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As per this discussion, I've now made an edit that changes all instances of free-floating planet(s) (only where exact phrase used) to rogue planet(s). "Free-floating" is used in other configurations in the article, among them "free-floating planet binary" - I did not modify these. I also did not

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It does not say "about 1 planet". It says "at least 1 planet". There could well be much more than 1 per star but we just don't know at this point in time. There could be 10 on average for all we know, and that seems quite likely to me. "Many" is an unspecific term and therefore suitable since we

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While this might be an important article, the number of External Links is too many. WP likes 1 or 2; this article has 25 just in the EL section. With over 200 citations, the article is well referenced and has a large number of ELs in the Further Reading section. As a point of comparison, the US

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we see that Knowledge (XXG) is not an collection of links, or scientific journal, or a means of promotion; the article is moving in that direction. I suggest that if you want it to be useful to other people (besides yourself and a few other enthusiasts) that you consider making it "as simple as

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Since the short list of discovered exoplanets consists of Jupiter-sized worlds where gravity would be much "stronger" than it is on Earth, shouldn't that be addressed as a factor affecting habitability? Since gravity on Jupiter is about 2.5 times that of the earth, could living things survive?

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I wonder if a collapsible section (that defaults collapsed - the way many large navboxs do) might not be better (at least those become searchable after being expanded), but I'm not sure how that would work with the reference number links. That would both reduce the vertical space required (by

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says above 50kB of readable prose, one should consider moving parts of the article to other articles and replacing them with summaries. You also suggested the 'Further reading' section could be another article. However the 'Further reading' section was no prose just titles, i.e. the ultimate

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The rationale for this change was consistency, and yet changing only the exact phrase "free-floating planet" and leaving unchanged "free-floating" is totally inconsistent and only serves to obscure the meaning of free-floating when it appears. The paragraph on captured planets was made less

1465:, it was argued that '"Rogue planet" is more commonly used' name - I'm not sure why we're not using that consistently, or alternatively, arguing for free-floating to be the standard across the encyclopaedia, as it's more accessible. I find the construction we have now rather cumbersome. 927:

The further reading items can be converted into prose over time so the article doesn't become just a collection of links. A few of the items were incorporated into the article prose today. Some of the sections probably will grow to the point that they will be split into separate articles.

626:, then the distance between the planet and the star's surface can become close to zero, or even less than zero if the planet has been engulfed by the expanding red giant, whereas the center of mass from which the semi-major axis is measured will still be near the center of the red giant." 4246:

looks like another good place to put mention of this stuff -- probably its primary place. At a quick glance, it currenly has almost nothing, just a mention of an amateurn who discovered 4 exoplanets. I haven't looked, but there may be a page near to it where the configuration bit fits

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The truth is that it's harder to find smaller planets than larger planets. It's also harder to find planets around large stars than small stars. And it's harder to find more distant-orbiting planets than close-orbiting planets. That's simply in the nature of our detection methods.

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Please read his opinion again. He says to leave the amateur discoveries in the main page of exoplanet, and to move the 'How amateur astronomers find exoplanets' to the methodology page. the Sorry I had to open a dispute resolution request due to lack of consensus. Cheers.

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Many people have contributed to exoplanet discovery. I see absolutely no reason why Bruce Gary is exalted over all names oh yes, the reason is you are peddling your "famous" book! Besides half the text is a rehash of "interesting" planets. In addition, take a look at

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template) is defined in the text. Is there a benefit in replacing the text with a symbol, or is there no reason to force the reader to 'guess' what is meant by the symbol when (if) "Jupiter masses" is just fine and easy to understand? To me, using English language

1045:. The satellites of sub-brown dwarfs could be considered planets just as the satellites of stars and brown dwarfs are planets. That MOA-2011-BLG-262 has a companion makes it unlikely to be a rogue planet that has been ejected from orbit around a star. Although 211:

While I tend to agree with regard to so-called "creation science", one need not be a dick about it (unless, of course, you're just a dick). Besides, I can't help but think that much of the information in this article will likewise seem like bullshit to future

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Dear FedEx, one is an object, the other is a discipline. This was discussed previously, so please stop your obnoxious behavior of reverting so much work blindly and without expressing a bit of logic. In addition, Knowledge (XXG) does not have to list your 46

1786:. They obfuscated the text and disrupted the flow of prose. I see you're adding these templates to all articles. I can't check whether all those articles have similarly disrupted text. Is there some talk page where these changes were discussed beforehand? 114:

It certainly should be mentioned with this new hype regarding the new KOI superearth analog in the habitable zone. No life will be there, not even detectable oxygen in the atmosphere. That took primitive life on earth something like 2.000.000.000 years.

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say that if we're going to include anything, it should be "how they find exoplanets" and put it in the #Methodology section. I have never advocated for a separate section about the Planet Hunters, and in fact I agree with the move to include it in the

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Even if MOA-2011-BLG-262 is a planetary-mass object that doesn't necessarily mean its companion should be called a moon. Free floating planetary-mass objects can form from interstellar clouds just like stars and brown-dwarfs do. In which case they are

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The grammar/syntax is still wrong. It states: "As of 1 January 2018, there are 3,726 planets in 2,792 systems, with 622 systems having more than one planet." Scientists will never state that is how many planets there are, but how many they have

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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303801304579407340824861278?mod=WSJ_hp_EditorsPicks&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303801304579407340824861278.html%3Fmod%3DWSJ_hp_EditorsPicks

91:) 06:50, 13 September 2013 (UTC) we were show that the solar CNO cycle produced particles with protons and electrons carried by solar wind are fouling on the outer part of system and make three famous molecules :methane and water and ammonia .-- 1957:

No, not automatically (those weren't automated edits btw), only when preceded by numerical values. What's your stance on that? If no, I'd like to move this to the talk page to gauge consensus. If yes, since you've made subsequent edits to

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Also, with Creation Theory, who is to say it took billions of years to get where we are on Earth? Agreed that the 'unknown' does not need to be expanded in the article here. What would be a 'reliable source' on this anyway? — Just asking,

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With the additional information I've provided, I noticed that the article was utilized in another section. However, my edit provides more information in a different section that wasn't covered. I'm new here, so apologies for any mishaps.

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How can you say "Very little of the information is special about exoplanets." On the contrary most of the information is specific to exoplanets and the place for it is in this exoplanet article, so I oppose splitting off of this section.

335:, the number of Kepler candidates has increased to more than 3400 (if you discount the confirmed planets). In addition, exoplanet archive now lists a few detection methods which the planet discovery graphs have not taken account for. -- 2643:

That would be the star (Fred A, actually, although that is just never used for single stars). Analogous to stars Fred A, Fred B, etc., planets follow the same convention, except written in lowercase to indicate it refers to a planet.

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says that for articles above 50kB of readable prose, one should consider moving parts of the article to other articles and replacing them with summaries. The Exoplanets page has about 63kB of readable prose, while

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I've reverted the split. If there is to be no page 2 then I think the paragraphs on captured planets and galactic distribution of planets would be better in the main article than the exoplanet host stars article.

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All I'm saying is that the article seems too long. I do not plan to contribute to this article other than via these comments; if you don't value my feedback, I will not hinder you further from growing the article

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That move of material to those article is the way to reduce overly long articles. The atmosphere section needs to summarize the most important points made and the rest of the material can go to a section on the

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I can't get anything at either of these two links. It is meant to support the statement that for years scientists, writers, and philosophers speculated and assumed that there were planets around other stars.

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Planethunter91's account, along with a couple of his sock-puppets were blocked. And it is beyond doubt that he unsuccessfully tried twice to create an article on his YouTube channel "The Exoplanets Channel":

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It might help the reader to understand why they're being directed to "rogue planet", and that these terms are interchangeable. Using both terms without ever explaining that they refer to the same thing seems

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TESS is supposed to pick up everything under the sun, yet it has found almost nothing. We were expecting 20,000 discoveries, but we will be lucky to find 2,000. It that because of aa problem with TESS?

180:. As everyone may know, National Geographic Channel this evening features the new Fox science series “Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey”. President Obama will deliver the introduction. "Be there, or be square!" 3489: 3469: 2897:

Apparently the exoplanet Alpha Centauri Bb has been shown to be non-existent: "According to a new study, Alpha Centauri Bb, a world in the nearest star system to us, was merely a ghost in the data."

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The article is intimidating in its current length. I think it would be much better as shorter articles. I noticed that the 'further reading' section is very long; could that be a separate article?

4769: 1182:"An exoplanet or extrasolar planet is a planet that does not orbit Earth's Sun. Normally, exoplanets orbit ... but there are apparently rare cases of free-floating planets that do not orbit ..." 1049:

by J. H. Debes, S. Sigurdsson suggests it's not impossible for ejected planets to hold on to their moons, so the presence of a moon doesn't necessarily mean the main object is a sub-brown dwarf.

2265:"Neptune's mass equals 17 Earth masses, Jupiter has 318 Earth masses, and the 13 Jupiter-mass limit used in the IAU's working definition of an exoplanet equals approximately 4000 Earth masses." 2239:

A good example is when the word "mass", "luminosity", "radius", etc. are used excessively in a sentence where a numerical value is given. A symbol would remove redundancy and wordiness, like:

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In addition, I suggest to summarize the sections on "Detection methods" and "Atmosphere", and as well as deleting the specific plant entries that look like timeline of discoveries. Cheers,

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as a new subsection? This article is not about specific exoplanets or their discoveries (unless you want to list "the first" amateur-astronomer-detected exoplanet), it is about exoplanets

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As regards the various suggestions to split, it appears to me that there is no consensus for splitting out the "Orbital Parameters" section. Even the original proposer seems ambivalent.

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This page was overly long, that's why I tagged it for content to be moved. This move must be to more-specific articles, not to a second page covering just the other half. What this page

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The third sentence reads "as of then, there have been 3, 660 exoplanets" but I do think it would be better English if it said "as of then, there have been 3, 660 exoplanets detected".

181: 1726:, where it is more appropriate. The many items of further reading can best be used to support material here or, more likely, in specific articles on suptopics and then be removed. -- 606:

Maybe it should be reworded somehow. As you say, we're distinguishing between different points. Then we should try to be crystal clear to which point we're referring at any time. --

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from the top to the bottom of talk page - the usual location for the latest posts - should be easier for more editors to discover and read the post (seems worthy imo) - enjoy! :)

2032:"Kepler-186f is the first Earth-sized planet in a habitable zone to have been discovered, a 1.1 Earth radius planet in the habitable zone of a red dwarf, announced in April 2014." 4590: 1996:

Automatic in practice, if not by bot: You replaced text in the title of the paper "Kepler-62: A five-planet system with planets of 1.4 and 1.6 Earth radii in the Habitable Zone".

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introducing them in the next) when numerical values are used, similar to any document which refers to frequently used text, be it acronyms or standard units. To see why, see the

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in the near future. I might link back to our talk or I might just start with your last paragraph, since that seems to be the concise main issue and hits the nail on the head.

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Hasegawa, Yasuhiro; Pudritz, Ralph E. (2013). "Planetary Populations in the Mass-Period Diagram: A Statistical Treatment of Exoplanet Formation and the Role of Planet Traps".

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the other methods we currently have (how can you be aligned with mid orbit planets light years away, it is statistically like trying to see a molecule with your naked eye.)

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I trimmed the "Atmosphere" section, but as regards "deleting the specific planet entries that look like timeline of discoveries", I'm not currently sure how to go about it.

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there was no benefit in replacing the text with a symbol and no reason to force the reader to guess what was meant when "Earth radius" is just fine and easy to understand.

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For example you changed "For colder gas planets there is a maximum radius which is slightly larger than Jupiter which occurs when the mass reaches a few Jupiter-masses."

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All sizes have a higher occurrence rate. The increase with metallicty increases with size. I guess what I had written wasn't very clear so I've put the actual numbers in.

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All editors but one agree in that the section on methods used by amateurs does not belong in this article, which is focused on the exoplanets only. I am moving it to the

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On the other hand, a point could be made (in the article here) of the amazing creation of Earth (and plant, animal, Earthlings) and the delicate nature of our existence,

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Some external links are welcome but it is not Knowledge (XXG)'s purpose to include a lengthy or comprehensive list of external links related to each topic.) Thank you.

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An interesting article today. I don't know where to put this info exactly, but i don't think that star has an article. This could make it notable enough but maybe not.

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Consider a (fictional) star named Fred. According to the naming convention, planets start at b, so Fred's first planet would be "Fred b". What would "Fred a" refer to?

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I think we have grounds for an ANI report. Planethunter91 replaced this science reference with a link to his YouTube channel called Exoplanets Channel. And over here

4579:^ "1992 --"The Year the Milky Way's Planets Came to Life"". Daily Galaxy. 10 January 2017. Archived from the original on 10 January 2017. Retrieved 15 January 2017. 2729:

One of the alternative definitions of an exoplanet takes issue with the IAU's mass distinction as being "observationally problematic due to the sin i ambiguity". I

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http://web.archive.org/web/20141207205111/https://science.house.gov/hearing/subcommittee-space-and-subcommittee-research-joint-hearing-exoplanet-discoveries-have-we

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http://web.archive.org/web/20140521031952/http://www.nouvelles.umontreal.ca/udem-news/news/20140513-enlightening-pisces-star-signs-lead-scientists-to-discovery.html

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FWIW - *May* also be relevant as a way a planet can receive complex organic chemicals (starting materials for life - or even primitive life-forms themselves?) (per

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the core aspects of the exoplanet topic and refer to the dedicated sub-topic articles for more details. Just splitting it up to two pages is absolutely a no-go. --

3760:. Granted, there are way too many commas there, but the general sentence is "since then there have been 3660 expolanets confirmed detections". That, I suppose, 861:

the article where they can be expanded upon. The study of exoplanets has hardly begun. I think the article will end up being very much longer than it is today.

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I've rephrased things to emphasize that there is doubt about its existence. There is also now a new section on Candidate discoveries which links to the article

2979:, they make it impossible to print the references and have accessibility issues. I am against implementing one just because it makes the article seem shorter. 4092:

Again, no aficionado ever discovered an exoplanet with a tripod-mounted telescope on his backyard. If you want to go argue that, take it to the Talk page at

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since then, and as of 1 September 2017, there have been 3,660 exoplanets, in 2,744 planetary systems and 614 multiple planetary systems, confirmed detections

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It's two sentences, actually, and I think the only real addition needs to be "...of a planet originally detected in 1988...", indicating that while it was

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http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-beta-pictoris-star-planet-gas-collision-comets-carbon-monoxide-20140307,0,1884709.story#axzz2vT2YFwwV

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I wonder if there is a way to re-write this section so that this assertion is more strongly supported and that doesn't point to dead and expired links.

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amateur astronomers can detect exoplanets. Am I just missing something? Why is there a push to have an entirely separate section for amateur astronomy?

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I'd cull any external link that doesn't specifically add something not covered in the article (e.g. videos, images we can't use due to copyright etc..)

3642: 1144:"An exoplanet or extrasolar planet is a planet that does not orbit Earth's Sun and instead orbits a different star, stellar remnant, or brown dwarf." 4016:. I agree with you regarding pushing particular people/books, but a short cleaned up section mentioning amateur contributions is not unreasonable. 2945:

default) and make all the reference quickly visible when wanted - more so, I'd say, than the scrolling box, where you can never see the entire list.

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It's customary to link the first occurrence of a term and not wikilink subsequent occurrences (for those that like guidelines etc., here's the link:

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No, Primefac and me think that the correct place is in the main page of exoplanets. Amateur discoveries have nothing to do with methodology. Cheers.

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Well, while that sounds sensible, it is pure speculation. So, unless an RS made those speculations, it definitely does not belong in the article.

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he thinks that any casual reader knows the difference between confirmation and detection, and that such history can be written in one sentence.

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yeah have to agree - we never split pages like this. can you please revert yourself and then we can discuss what gets moved where here. cheers,

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summarization of the content in those articles. So moving 'Further reading' elsewhere and replacing it with summaries is therefore nonsensical.

587:"In many cases the semi-major axis is approximately the same as the distance between the planet and the center of the star and to its surface." 4591:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170110130851/https://dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2017/01/exo-1992-the-year-the-milky-ways-planets-came-to-life.html

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Those were not the only examples. I completely disagree with automatically replacing text such as earth radius, earth mass, etc with symbols.

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I am happy that you're so passionate about Exoplanets that want to make a very detailed and extensive article. I also like Exoplanets. FYI,

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I am afraid that this topic can get out of control. Just to split out "Orbital parameters" is complicated because of the various articles on

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Thanks but that image already is in the article. This one has a white background, but it is the same thing. Anyway, thanks for sharing that

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On second thoughts we don't need these cn tags as this is explained in the next two sections on early speculations and discredited claims.

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I believe that radio detection of exo-moons has been described as-in theory-possible(moons like Io). Should we add this to the article? --

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http://web.archive.org/web/20131202223111/http://www.astrobio.net/exclusive/4188/alien-life-more-likely-on-%E2%80%98dune%E2%80%99-planets

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Fine with me. I'm all for consistent usage of one term and only mentioning alternative terms in the leads of the articles in question. --

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This is worth including in the article and has nothing to do with methodology. That's why the amateur discoveries section makes sense.

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sounds to me like an acknowledgement of the convoluted and messy nature of the article. I wish you the best as you work to clean it up.

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instances are well-placed, imo. Instead, please only remove the cases you don't agree with, or revert back to mine and I can do it?

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agree that persistent use of "Earth radius", "Jupiter radii", "Jupiter masses", "Solar masses", "Solar luminosities", etc. lead to a

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For a shorter introduction to exoplanets there is the exoplanet section of the planet article. I've added a hat note to this effect.

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in general. "How amateur astronomers find exoplanets" is valid to include, but that means putting it into the #Methodology section.

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reading of the above conversation, we're all in agreement that it should go into the #Methodology section, since the description is

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article; mentioning general hardware and software would be reasonable, but omit book promotions and 'how to' instructions. Cheers,

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Creationism is just pure religious bullshit that is not supported by any shred of evidence and falsified by tons of evidence. --

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the same as 100-400 billion. To me, many billions mean 2-99 billions. "Many billions" should be change into "hundreds billion."

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Newly found exoplanets around component B will be named c, d, e etc, and apparently b will not be reused? Is that accurate?

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Should this be removed and replaced with Kepler-62 paragraph as Kepler-62 planets turned out to be in the habitable zone? --

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in the See also section is enough. No need to curate this person's soapbox peddling his "famous" book in Knowledge (XXG).

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For finding any theoretical explanation of mechanism which results production of water in planetary system see my works.

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change the amount of wikilinking, but noted that there are currently four instances where "rogue planet" is wikilinked.

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Converting the lists of topics etc into prose will take a lot of time so I've removed the fa template from the article.

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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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above - a prioritized listing of sub-topic articles might be a helpful start I would think - in any case - Enjoy! :)

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The whole "how-to" bit should be removed. The article is about exoplanets, not telescope configurations. Pages like

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planet is approximately the same as the semi-major axis. However, when a star's radius expands when it turns into a

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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the

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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/26/we-almost-doubled-just-today-the-number-of-planets-known-to-humanity/

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Already referenced in the article (under Proper names). But it doesn't give the number, so I've added that bit.

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Yes. The Kepler-62 planets are currently the best examples of almost earth-size planets in the habitable zone.

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FWIW, I personally don't find "many billions" to be limited to "2-99". Usually "many" is pretty open ended.

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I'd try and cite all the sentences - then figure out what needs removing. It is difficult at first glance....

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has not been confirmed. I don't think it should be reported on this page until the evidence is more solid.

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section has some references in the text, which should be reviewed and reworked to support text or removed.

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Please do not put words in my mouth. I originally said that my interpretation of the consensus was that,

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Prose is generally written in paragraphs. try and meld sentences into paras, especiallt standalone ones.

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lead, and the overall size of this article (it's quite big already) is something to consider as well.

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reading article. In my opinion, they lead to a slower, protracted read. I'll concede excessive use on

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which appears to flatly ban scrolling list (this appears the be the result of a discussion in 2007:

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I have to disagree, several amateurs have discovered exoplanets from their backyards, for example:

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discoveries - News TeleConference (12 noon/et/usa, Thursday, 7/23/2015) - in any case - Enjoy! :)

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Repeated wiki-linked separate references to free-floating and rogue planets without clarification

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before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template

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Ah, thanks, I see, it's lower down under "IAU". I still think it would be better to open with:

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If the "Orbital parameters" section has to go, I strongly suggest we move it to the article

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Wikipedia_talk:Citing_sources/Archive_18#Scrolling_Reference_Lists:_Formal_Policy_Discussion

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https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/backyard-stargazer-discovers-earth-like-planet-ng-b88449627z

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President has 10. I suggest the number of ELs be trimmed in order to follow WP guidelines.

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the content were to be included, it should go in the #Methodology section. I never said

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section would make a good independent article, with just a summary and link left here.

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Oh, right. But still, I'm not the one who's uploading it. I always get copyright issues

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I'll check out your suggestion. It seems preferable to creating a new article. Thanks!

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the number of stars does not produce a simple estimate of the total number of planets.

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If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with

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something to the following noun. A synonym is easy to find by following the wikilink.

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leads to a slower, protracted read and does not benefit the article nor the reader,

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Not sure what you mean; the largest planets will of course be the easiest to find.

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need some fixing, at least for consistency of tense and plurality. I'll tweak it.

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http://www.popsci.com/brilliant-10-david-kipping-hunts-for-moons-around-exoplanets

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are both being deleted. These templates were a bit of a chore to create properly.

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Sounds good. It's been years since I've split an article, so I have to read over

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Bromley, Benjamin C.; Kenyon, Scott J. (2014). "The Fate of Scattered Planets".

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Data From Kepler Space Telescope Suggests 4 Alien Worlds Have Potential for Life

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Agreed. If it's to be included at all, it should be a single paragraph in the

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I'd be gratified if we could find a way to explain this clearly in the lede.

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Whether you prefer symbols or not, titles of references should not be changed.

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same page close to each other, of course, do not suffer from this problem. --

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without the Soapbox and backyard tripod discovery which has never happened.

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I don't agree that my edits warrant a full-on revert, since the rest of the

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I see a picture/photograph of Beta Pictoris at the top of the article here.

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template may be preferred - is there some easy way to do this? - Enjoy! :)

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Really? He wrote: "that means putting it into the Methodology". And here

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Since this affects more than just the Exoplanet article, I've posted at

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I'm still not sure what you're looking for as a reply; we're not NASA.

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Yes, it looks much clearer now—it needed only minor copyediting now. --

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I've removed the broken ref and replaced it with citation needed tag.

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I've linked to a section on mass which explains the sin i ambiguity.

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This main exoplanet page should be about the exoplanets themselves.

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since that section happens to put our discussion in a nutshell :)

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article and be expanded there. I've moved the Venus zone section to

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal.

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mission - News TeleConference (12 noon/et/usa, Thursday, 7/23/2015)

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I definitely don't intend to interfere with the flow of the text,

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Replacing text prose with a symbol does not make things clearer.

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Did two planets around nearby star collide? Toxic gas holds hints.

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.

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It was a lot easier than when I last performed a split, because

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I don't know how you guys want it so I'll leave it to the pro's

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Oh, wait! I see that you are already performing that move! :-)

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These templates also make the text harder to read when editing.

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So what is a "free-floating" planetary body? An "interplanet"?

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is the introduction of the symbol in the text and is required.

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planets). They have nothing to do with methodology. Cheers.

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there precedents to follow? About the only things I see are

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these are worth mentioning in the history sub-section there.

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at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

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doesn't say anything about "firsts" in amateur astronomy.

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for additional information. I made the following changes:

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This is the 2015 one. The current one includes only 2014

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if the symbol(s) are wikilinked and properly defined.

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Looking and pondering more, I think it belongs in the

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Sub-brown dwarf with planet or Rogue planet with moon

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But not a big deal. 2564:and Beyond: NASA’s Search for Water and 2546:and Beyond: NASA’s Search for Water and 2061:Titles shouldn't be changed, I agree. I 293:KOI-172.02 paragraph in the introduction 4320:he reverted you. The consensus stands. 3653:into sublists, for the discussion, see 3159:Or even about obits of satellites. 3107:http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1615/ 2874: 2705: 2624:Naming convention. What happenned to a? 2589: 2542:(04/07/2015@1:00-2:00pm/edt/usa) - Our 4770:2600:8801:B011:300:B09F:3FEF:E7EB:2AC5 4575:century were rejected by astronomers. 4367: 3757: 3702:Do not edit the contents of this page. 815: 804: 275:List of unconfirmed extrasolar planets 44:Do not edit the contents of this page. 3511:to let others know (documentation at 2811:Why it's hard to find smaller planets 2243:blah has a mass of 30 Jupiter masses 775:AND < ref name="SCI-20140306": --> 7: 4589:Just putting it out there. Archive. 4480:other subjects to work at. 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