Talk:FAMAS - Knowledge (XXG)

769:) from you right hand comfortably, or from your left hand a bit less comfortably (the spent case will fly in front fo you), while with a bullpup, firing from the left hand flies the case into you face (these little things are horribly hot when they come out the ejector). Of course we can discuss at length the validity of the argument (why would you fire your rifle from your bad side ? If it is a question of cover, you are very likely not firing your rifle from the shoulder anyway... bah). 283: 299: 267: 315: 152: 2856:"FA-MAS" is the correct way of writing the name of this rifle. It's not just Forgotten Weapons that writes it this way, hyphenating it is the correct way. The link I provided is one of the official manual (pdf) of the FA-MAS. Markings that can be found on the rifle is also written as "FA-MAS". Official documents, manuals and promotional content both in English and French writes it as "FA-MAS". 364: 343: 457: 436: 632:" G1 was an intermediate design, and was consequently replaced by the latest production model, the FAMAS G2, which appeared circa 1994. This rifle has the G1-style enlarged trigger guard but can accept only STANAG type (M16-compatible) magazines. It was adopted and purchased by the French Navy in the 1995, with the French Army soon following the suit, and also offered for export." 467: 1240:

that; (5) the template is NOT an advertisement for that other article (the otheruses4 template arguably was, and I support its removal); (6) if readers coming to the article who are in fact looking for info on the assault rifle decide to check out the disambiguation page, so be it. That's one of the neat things about Knowledge (XXG) - that readers learn about other things.

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is just as obscure. Google it and you get results. Plus, you're arguing from the absurd. You pick apart little detials about the analogy rather than facing it head on. HTD yields 681,000 hits when you put it in quotes. Even given your absurd skewing by putting two search words without a quotation

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alone and count the first few pages. See how many Filipino organization articles you get vs. how many results you get. What you've done is cook the books. You get 430 Million hits under the word "awards", however, you get only 53 million with Rifle. The Google search engine is only as good as the

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first. Now, FAMAS is a French language acronym that is the only term used to describe a noteable rifle and has worldwide notability. FAMAS is also a Tagalog language acronym that has reigonal notoriety and is not commonly used in the English language nor is it notable in the English language. The

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First, you'd have to agree that a rifle that requires Steel cased (nonstandard) ammunition to function reliably, is a 'fine' weapon. Then you'd have to agree that a firearm that costs twice as much as competative models like the HK33 and three or four times as much as MAP M16's... wow, perhaps ten

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here in the English Knowledge (XXG) and Filipinos speak and understand the English language, being our secondary language. So, if an average Filipino will search for FAMAS in the English Knowledge (XXG), he or she would expect the award-giving body and not the rifle. Although the rifle should get

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The FA-MAS is fully ambidextrous (as stated above, the ejection side can be changed in a matter of seconds by field-stripping the rifle and interchanging two parts), as is the Steyr AUG, but NOT the SA-80, nor the IMI Tavor or STK SAR-21. Bullpup and ambidextrous have nothing to do with each other.

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I know there is a anti recoil system inside de cross(stock), in the top portion. it has a spring/lever/thingy. I and 2 guys did some dissasebling and cleaning of this along with a caporal chef in the foreign legion. So i know it's there. That's why it has such a small recoil. But there's no info on

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what the editor started out with (an otheruses4 template that specifically mentioned the other article); (d) even if the otheruses template only helps a few editors, it doesn't interfere with readers of this article, so the downside of having it is minimal; this really shouldn't be a big deal, and

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yes right a English Language translation of a Tagalog article. And you know that from...? Well the point is that it's neither a Tagalog Acronym nor a English translation of a Tagalog article, nor anything else like this. It is, and has been since 1952, the original name of that organization (which

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if you think the other article isn't notable (espacially for the english WP) then put it on the afd page. but as long as it exists, the disambig template is justified. WP:DAB does not say "don't put a otheruses-template on the top of the article, if someone is opinionated about the topic". here is

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This device's name is "alidade de tir courbe" (≈ "indirect fire sight"). It is used to aim the rifle when using rifle grenades in indirect fire (rifle grenade direct fire uses a U-notch sighting system situated within the carrying handle). The firing position is prone, with the rifle held skywards

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article about something that is sometimes referred to as "FAMAS"; (2) it's possible that some readers will type "FAMAS" into the search engine looking for that other entity; (3) those other readers will arrive at this article, and should be sent elsewhere; (4) the otheruses1 template does exactly

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To summarize again: (a) a number of experienced editors have now commented that "FAMAS" is in fact a common acronym for the movie awards; (b) the otheruses1 template at the top of the article is not the "advertisement" that was originally in place (otheruses4); rather, it's a simple pointer to a

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means that the firing of a cartridge occurres behind the trigger. The is no reason for this to make ambidextrous usage impossible. In the case of the FAMAS, the whole system is symetric; to reverse the direction of empty case ejection, your pull the removable head from the bolt until you see the

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I've gone through and tried to clean up as much of the grammar and form as possible without disturbing the actual content of the article, but that entailed basically rewriting it. I fixed the Development and Production section, but I'm too tired to do the rest right now. Some parts seemed either

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About 80,000,000+ Filipinos? But beside that point, it is not the question of whether few people would search for the term. The thing is somebody will search for other terms and disambig link should solve the problem. We are trying to help other people here. And there is no specific rule or

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Please stop whispering. No, as long as another article exists with the same name, it must meet a minimum standard of notability for a disambig statement, otherwise it's merely advertising for the other article and comparable to spam or graffiti. I'm sure that a disambig statement would be

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as long as there exists another article with the same name, we need to link it from here. of course it's way less popular but that doesn't alter the fact, that it exists. And as long as it exists, people may want to find it. and in order to enable them to find it we need to link it from

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mark, you're 360,000 hits. Therefore, even if you're skewing it, Howard the Duck is more popular than the FAMAS awards... HOWARD THE DUCK. Let's sit and ponder the meaning when we talk notoriety. Yeah, I thought so. Oh, PLEASE break out the, "Dude, you were edit warring" argument. --

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Well, perhaps I should have said that it was a concensus in that nobody was reverting it anymore. My Filipino background aside, neither the FAMAS (movie thingy) nor the FAMAS (Montreal organization) even begin to touch the notability of the FAMAS rifle... but then that's my opinion.

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But M4 is shorter than M16, so a better choice for special force operative; M4 is sometime better than Famas, mainly because it's a non-bullpup design and Spec Ops who are used to fire with both shoulders (and who are entitled to do it) don't like to receive hot brass in the

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However, the G2 version was thought to be declined in several versions (all in 5.56mm) : standard, compact commando version, ultracompact SMG version, and DMR/sniper version. To the best of my knowledge, none of them (except standard, of course) ever saw the light but as

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cannot be set to eject spent cases to the left, and it is possible that this contributed to the general confusion. In any case, there are bullpup designs which eject the case on the front or the bottom of the weapon, so I think that the whole question is much overrated.

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Sorry, I'm laughing here because you're making it sound more obscure. It's an acronym of an English Language translation of a Tagalog article. It's one of four award-giving bodies in the Phillipines? Bustling movie industry there, eh? The athlete I'm speaking of is

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having an inappropriate disambiguation link to some basketball player. The person that added it in the first place roams Knowledge (XXG) creating links from English WP articles to Tagalog articles and that is the appropriate way of doing things. This is inappropriate.

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French special forces (1RPIMa, CRAPS, commandos marine, etc.) sometimes use the M4 carbine because of its modularity, but not the M16. However, the M16 is one of the few foreign weapons allowed to be fired in the army firing ranges (along with the Uzi and H&K MP5).

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Why are there two pictures in the lead section of this article of soldiers carrying weapons other than the FA MAS in an article exclusively about the FA MAS. A picture of its alleged replacement is not necessary when a link to the corresponding article will do.

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It is perfectly plausible that someone comes to Knowledge (XXG) looking for the film awards and end up on the rifle article, why must we make it so difficult for these users and exclude them??? IMDB has an entire section titled "FAMAS Awards"

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or twenty times as much as a AK... well is it worth it? Yes, to those few US citizens who bought them in the 80's and a few Arabs countries. Personally, I love the design and would love to have seen a non-French version that costs lest. --

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BonesBrigade, you clearly did not read my full post: "FAMAS Awards" yields twice as many google results as "FAMAS Rifle". Anonymous user, the cartoon character is unlikely to be confused with the animal, the FAMAS articles however share an

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I removed all the unsubstantiated and un- or poorly-sourced comments on the rifle's unreliability, and all rumor, then updated the section to be provable and recent facts on target with the section title. Hope this works for everyone.

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AFAIK, there's no plan to make a 7.62mm version of the FAMAS. Current improvement plans are the FÉLIN system. However, Kel-Tec has recently (Q1 2007) introduced their 7.62x51mm RFB (Rifle, Forward-ejection, Bullpup) semi-auto rifle.

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Is it odd that such a fine weapon has not seen more exports? I thought that former Francophone countries would have adopted it. Is the French government not advocating its sale, or is the world market just too flooded with AKs?

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As a paid contributor with a COI to the source, adding this here instead of directly into the article. "existing number are not only extremely rare but cost in the range of $ 25,000 with no spare parts available on the market."

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There's some ambiguity with the rifling. It states that because of 1:12 rifling it (F1) can only use French made SS109. But optimal rifling for SS109 is 1:7. 1:12 is optimal for M193. Does anybody know anything about this?

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Top picture FA-MAS is shown with a one-round plastic magazine used for firing F1 rifle grenades (called "chargeur PCL" = "chargeur pour cartouche de lancement" = "(grenade-)firing round magazine") or ceremonies/parades.

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You're the only one keeping this alive. The concensus was that the disambig link was fine then you messed with that one by reverting the disambig page and reverting this page... AGAIN. Your reason doesn't fly anymore.

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I did not see any consensus —which in any event can't overrule guidelines. Of course now that the dab page page has been expanded (by you), the current hatnote (to dab page) is correct and I have no problem with it.

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the article title (because it's more popular), an "otheruses" tag should be used to help other readers to find what they are really looking for. The disambig link does not violate any policy or guideline especially

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ok, you seem to know what you're talking about, but it's still unclear on the page. i think some sort of amendment to one of the pages should be made to clarify why this one is different from "most" bullpup designs.

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ejector and the plug, you reverse them and replace the bolt in its place. The cases will now exit the stock of your FAMAS on the left rather than on the right. The whole operation is a matter of a minute.

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For anyone interested, there is currently discussion of the relevance of Pop Culture, trivia, and content that relates to fictional uses of firearms such as this going on. One is at the Firearms Project,

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Has there/Will there ever be a FAMAS using the 7.62 NATO calibre round?, Just asking becouse there has never been a 7.62 NATO Bullpup rifle. I was thinking it would make a great sniper weapon.

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AFAIK, there were a handful imported into the US in the 80s. The .222 bore was more than likely for French consumption and other nations that forbid "military calibers" (e.g. Italy, etc.).

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No one is riding the coat tails, this assumes that somehow the one article is more important or worthy than the other, it is a shared acronym and as such should be disambiguated as per

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The French Army does not issue the FA-MAS G2, and sticks with the F1 (BTW, marine troops are part of the ground forces like any other "arm"). The French Air Force may have the G2 too.

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and the fact that he is so obscure you know nothing of him is why he's not on the AK-47 page as a hatnote... thanks to the efforts of people like me. Thanks for making my points. --

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redundant or irrelevant, so I deleted them, but if anybody feels that they should reappear and can find a way to do so while still keeping the article coherent, more power to you.

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ignoring my obvious spelling error in the title, shoudl rifle really be capitalized? almost any other articals dont have it like this artical. just wondering what you guys think(

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disambiguation page; (c) what the editor who posted the otheruses template does or doesn't do with regard to other articles is irrelevant to this one; in any case, what is here

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You'll have to make quite the case that somebody typing FAMAS in the English version of Knowledge (XXG) is really looking for an obscure Filipino organization. --

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That's untrue. The French Foreign Legion, like any other troops, use the standard FAMAS. Special forces (commandos de marine, etc.) use other weapons, like the

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I have noted some unsourced statements made by 162eRI in his 05:39, 6 December 2010 edit, should they be flagged for a citation, removed until substantiated?

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was mentioned previously, and I fail to see the relevance of that - so please cite a specific sentence or phrase in support of removal. Please also remember

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like a mortar. Provided distance is accurately measured (taking elevation into account), accuracy is about 5m radius, and the range goes from 60 to 340m.

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I have seen criticism of the FAMAS by those who say it was rejected by the French Foreign Legion, which prefers the US M-16. Is this true and if so why?

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example is a rather inappropriate example, because there is no other AK-47 article that needs to be disambiguated (let alone a basketball player).--

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The M16 is modular. I don't see why it isn't. All you have to do is replace the handguard with a rail system. As far as I know all M16 is modular.

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or short machine-guns, yet retain the FAMAS for parade. I have never seen the M-16 refered to as a weapon chosen over any of these, though.

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Did someone copy the entire article from world.guns.ru? The grammatical errors and spelling seem to be the same as those soon on that site.

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built, did not use any of the FAMAS parts and was blow-back operated. It was just a cheap look-alike and nothing more. There was also a

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good intentions, which is why we start by assuming such, and only assume bad faith when there is substantial evidence to do so. --

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There is a photo on www.militaryphotos.net (page 7 of African Militaries thread) of Cameroonian soldiers parading with FAMAS F-1s.

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As for search results... here they are and they. Using quoted terms, both search engines have 3½ to 4 times more results for

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happens to bear an English name, even though their members propably speak Tagalog indeed). But thanks for making my points.--

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Yes you are right. Asams10 didn't verify this claim before he was saying it out loud here. That really says it all. If not,

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Please do not remove the otheruses tag in this article. The award giving body is also known as FAMAS in the Philippines. --

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Okay, perhaps that should be added to the variants section. I might be able to dig up the info from an older Jane's Guide.

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and due weight, the 'official' name matters far less than the name used by the majority of reliable, secondary sources.

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A Tagalog language acronym? Does "Filipino Academy of Movie Arts and Sciences" sound Tagalog to you? You were linking

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I saw FAMAS in the hands of a Sri Lankan soldier (probably a commando) in a CNN-IBN video. Can someone confirm ??

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But just searching "FAMAS" gives you almost 15,000,000 results while adding awards gives only 348,000 results

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Wasn't there/isn't there a semi-auto-only variant? There was also a .222 Remington model to, if I recall.

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write it this way that claim seems dubious to begin with, but it doesn't matter. Knowledge (XXG) runs on

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Another citation opportunity attesting to the value, on 2 June 2024 another was sold for $ 37,025.00 on

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Taking the fact that Forgotten Weapons writes it as FA-MAS as justification to do so in turn is grossly

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There's nothing wrong with a disambig tag. This is just another example of hiding information again.

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AFAK a small quantity has been exportated to Djibouti's gendarmerie and presidential guards...

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What I meant is that french special forces don't USE the M16 - not that the M16 is not modular.

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How would one pronounce FAMAS? i think it's Fah-mahs but i keep hearing Fay-muss and faa-muhs.

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we've probably spent enough time debating it. Much more, and this starts being a candidate for

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The image shows an unloaded FAMAS of the French Army, apparently with a plastic fake magazine.

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What is meant by "Famas G2 is only used by French marine.": marine = "Marine Nationale" (thus

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the wiki page. I'll try and find some schematics. Maybe someone else can add something too.

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Does an 9mm variant exist? The photo in the article has a strange looking magazine well.

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Yes, the G2 version uses STANAG 5.56 magazines. It also has weaver and picattiny R.A.S..

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removal of the otheruses1 template, please do so. Please be very specific; I believe

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I know there is the AWC Bullpup but it is just a bullpup stock conversion for an M14.

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look-alikes too. A gunsmith friend of mine stated that they were of very low quality.

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guideline that prevents us from including otheruses tag. --

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