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1072:. I think that images are very important to an article about a 3D artwork, but 19 images is excessive. front3, front4, front7 and front8 are pretty similar; ditto the back pics. Are they significant enough? Taft could perhaps appear in the article (artist), and perhaps another picture could illustrate the part about weather damage - maybe LTFountainOfTime6.jpg? More details about the pictures would also help, because then they would add information to the article. 1223:
The aspect ratio of the image here probably leads to an exception to the "usually" that you mention. I think the main image should give us a view of the whole fountain as it does. I.E., this is the proper main image, IMO. I don't think shrinking it much would be such a good idea. The current width
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says, "Lead images, which should usually be no larger than 300 pixels". Now, we could consider what 'usually means in this context, but I think a compromise should be reached. Perhaps this (very nice) picture would have more impact within the body, and a different image (father time?) could appear in
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Re. Head section, did read 'First *finished* work of art - I almost changed it to 'completed'; I know this is taken from the ref, but it makes me wonder why they put the caveat 'finished'. If another piece wasn't finished, surely it wasn't the first...so I think it's fair to remove the caveat. Do you
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Quite correct; it doesn't need fixing up for GA. I like to see things tidy - it could cause issues for users who arrive at an external link that disagrees with the one they clicked, but I am being picky. I will keep a note to myself and fix them as a maintainance job one day.
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The Fountain's location in Washington Park near Midway Plaisance places it inside the Chicago Park District. The fountain's location in the Washington Park community area on Chicago's South Side places it amid poor indifferent neighborhoods that are not concerned with the
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That is not really true. This neighborhood within the South Side is actually poor. Although the University is nearby, there is not much residential wealth nearby. That statement means that parts of the South Side are not so bad. This part is pretty
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agree? I notice the Did you know? column on 29 January 2009 was "that Chicago's Fountain of Time by Lorado Taft is considered the earliest outdoor concrete sculpture" - so a different caveat; was there an indoor one? Should we put 'outdoor' in here?
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The gallary picture titles have inadequate descriptions, with many the same ("Front" etc) - not exactly a 'prose' issue, but I'd like something better, even just "Front left", "Front right" - it looks a bit odd with many pics with the same caption.
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says "Although it has endured a reputation as being poor and crime-infested, the reality is more varied; it ranges from impoverished to working class to affluent." - perhaps something similar would work here; perhaps using refs from that article?
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A number of ref links (circa 20) using the docs.newsbank.com domain link to different URLs to the ones recorded - i.e. if you click on it, the URL you end up at is not the one specified in the ref. I saw this using the checklinks tool
433:"The fountain was a part of a larger beautification plan for the Midway" - is this Midway Plaisance (which I think is a single street nearby), or another use of the term Midway? Please clarify and wikilink if possible. -- 1210:
think that the infobox image is too wide, and distracting. Generally, images should be thumbnailed, although this could be an exception to that due to the aspect ratio,and it's less than the max of 500px. However,
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I would not remove the word finished or at least a synonym. I think it is possible to start pouring concrete and not finish an art work. I am not qualified to make any statements beyond the source and for
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Aha, I see! It's an Americanism, where places are referred to as "5th and 3rd" etc, that's why it confused me. Perhaps rewrite as 'the intersection of...' or something, to cater for non-US? --
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In vision, "The partially completed work..." I rewrote the para. I suspect "Ducalion" was another spelling of Deucalion, and why single out this one? Do you agree with
321:. During the period covered by this database he has over 400 articles in the newspaper. I think the state ment that the neighborhood is poor is valid. Also see, 541:
Great, that clarifies it. Can you think of a way to show that one of the new maps is a section of the other - like text between saying 'detail' or something? --
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I'm making some changes to improve the grammar and clarity; please think of them as suggestions and feel free to revert them or improve them further.
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I added Plaisance to the sentence in question. It is linked in the paragraph above. I will add some maps to that article tonight.--
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Good coverage of the artist, without going overboard. Maps giving a frame of reference. Good wikilinks. Detailed coverage of topic.
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The links take you to the right article. The server may have moved or something, but the correct article seems to be references.--
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I have some issues with prose and a few other issues, but I believe these could be resolved in a short time.
704:, please review my changes. I removed link 24 from last sentence of para as ref did not cover that info. -- 1266: 1230: 1151: 1085: 967: 928: 826: 733: 603: 515: 461: 373: 331: 285: 203: 132: 1260:
I just read about a bot a signpost that resizes images to 400px so I shrunk this from 500 px to 400 px.--
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That looks much better. The inline pics are appropriate, and the 'before' and 'after' adds a lot. DONE --
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I think I will look at these tomorrow. I have other WP issues to attend to for the rest of the night.--
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pictures, with valid copyright and other info. The pics make this article special. 7. Overall:
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Presents the facts in a businesslike manner. The statement about poverty is fact, not opinion.
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I'm happy with 400. Good compromise. A bit over MOS, but justifiable by the pic. DONE --
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Remember I put a load of suggestions in the article talk page, for future development.
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looks O.K. at the most common screen resolutions ( 1024x768 and 1280x1024).--
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Because a) Prose, repetition of 'The Fountains location in WP", and b)
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I've done an initial check through the article, and made many notes.
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Talk:Fountain of Time#Suggestions for future improvement, 2 Mar 2009
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Restoration needs some work on prose; I'm working on that now. --
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I'm doing some checking through - image copyright and suchlike,
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reasons do not feel it would be appropriate to do so anyways.--
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References check out, support facts, and are reliable sources
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I have done some image moving. Let me know what you think.--
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I feel there are 2 other issues that need to be addressed;
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I will try to think of further solutions; please discuss.
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OK. Another idea would be to move them to commons and use
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After further consideration, I agree this is acceptable.
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I will put results of my checking here within 2 hours.
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Please note that I've put a big list of suggestions in
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All significant issues raised have now been addressed,
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where plans of these private entities are revealed.--
574:(Ellis AND Madison) ? ie combined? Please clarify.-- 961:I support all the changes you have made so far.-- 1068:I think that the gallery - galleries - violate 1402:Congrats, nice work. A pleasure to review it. 597:I will add a map showing the cross streets.-- 8: 997:I will add to the above list as I review. 1060:I'm continuing to fix prose and grammar. 323:Washington Park, Chicago (neighborhood) 7: 1353:Prose now flows well, good coverage. 315:. This is a regular writer for the 24: 1376:4. Neutral point of view?: Pass 1: 1360:2. Factually accurate?: Pass 700:I rewrote this whole section 99:23:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC) 1368:3. Broad in coverage?: Pass 311:I contest whether this is a 263:This section needs a rewrite 106:Definitely not a quickfail. 1384:5. Article stability? Pass 279:Repetition taken care of.-- 1444: 27:Fountain of Time GA Review 1429:19:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1344:08:04, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1316:19:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1288:18:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1252:08:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1203:19:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1173:15:44, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1137:08:28, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1107:08:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1056:06:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 1018:15:56, 1 March 2009 (UTC) 989:18:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC) 950:18:49, 1 March 2009 (UTC) 900:05:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 874:04:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 848:04:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 811:00:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 781:04:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 755:03:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 722:03:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 696:00:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 651:00:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 625:00:23, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 592:23:56, 1 March 2009 (UTC) 559:04:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 537:03:48, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 505:00:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC) 487:OK, great. 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