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had to win two things: 1. the battle of wits and 2. the actual battle. The goal was to achieve "fame" and fame meant going down in history. Being a good warrior was only part of this. In this sense, football is a ritualised battle and the supporters are continuing the tradition of flyting, where each side insulted one another and egged their comrades on. Flyting thus performs two functions, as do football chants. 1. to bond the group 2. to psych out the opposition. A simple insult is never valued as much as wit. I hope this information adds to your origin story - the roots of the chants go back to Viking and Anglo Saxon times. A good piece of research was done by the Centre for
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It is correct this is part of the tradition of blason populaire, but it is also part of a much older tradition - flyting. This was a traditional battle of wits - it had to be poetic and humorous - which took place before a battle. A famous eg of which is The Battle of Maldon. In order to "win" you
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Australia, Italy and England? Thats utter nonsens like the whole article! It needs to be cleaned up and either expanded or renamed! And please add a note to all those yanks out there that "soccer" is called football in the rest of the world!
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European tradition (flyting) the chant has now become part of the culture of football and has thus been exported with the game. There are strong associations of dance and singing with sport (because it is ritualised battle) eg the haka in rugby clearly fits within this
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