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1766:: "Knowledge is not an indiscriminate collection of information so we limit based on criteria. We have chosen the billing list of 18 actors rather than the more complete list of 41 credited actors as a nice list of the notable actors. The 3 stars listed on the poster or the 11 actors listed in the poster billing block do not seem sufficient. None of those lists has Davies anyway. If Davies' role is "notable" in some way (like Statham's uncredited cameo), I see no reason he should be added to the cast in this article. Please do not add him or anyone else to the list without some citation.
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There's no right or wrong having a name linked twice in the info box, that's your personal opinion, but no reason to try to get me blocked, so it be ok if there's a name linked twice in the info box. I agree to leave the name unlinked so means you didn't get a single linked I didn't get my double,
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