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relocated to an "old age home" that was code for Auchwitz. I realize this information is primary source and therefor not a suitable referece for Knowledge, but the Instittute will be publishing the letters with historical interptation by experts in the coming years. See the German edition of Knowledge for more info. In the meantime, it is ridiculous to even infer that recreational drug use or treatment for depression had anything whatsoever to do with these deaths.
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When the term ‘recreational’ is used in conjunction with a drug it means the drug is being used for a purpose other than for which it was prescribed. I, personally, wouldn’t categorize a drug taken with the intention of committing suicide as being ‘recreational’, but, whatever you want to call them,
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The advantage of a cliche is that no-one expects them to be too precise. Alternate phrasing often carries more specific implications and then you're in trouble with , because there's precious little comprehensive information available from such a turbulent time. Thinking English readers won't read
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It says that Hausdorff's library was sold by "his" son. I presume that this is referring back to the previous paragraph and talking about the son of Hausdorff's lawyer, but only because the article earlier claims that Hausdorff's only child was a daughter. Anyone who missed that would assume it was
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I read the text about his suicide, and the Categories, and there's no way to know that he tooks drugs for the specific purpose of dying. The impression is that he became a drug addict because of depression, and then he (and the two women) commited suicide by other means. The text should be explicit
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My mother's mother was Edith Pappenheim, Charlotte (Lotta's) Hausdorff Pappenheim's sister. Felix, Charlotte, and Edith committed suicide as letters between Edith and Lotta and my mother (now in the posession of the Hausdorff Institute) affirm, because they were tipped off that they were being
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in the case of Hausdorff, we are stuck with the fact that this way the way he chose to commit suicide. Therefore the cause of death must be Categorized as being ‘drug-related’. I don’t believe this portrays him as a ‘recreational drug user’ but, rather, as a person who wasn’t reached in time.
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In the paragraph "Hausdorff's general products and powers of cardinalities had led him to the concept of partially ordered set. The question of whether any ordered subset of a partially ordered set is contained in a maximal ordered subset was answered in the positive by Hausdorff using the
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It follows not only from the well-ordering theorem (or from the (equivalent to this) axiom of choice), but it is, as it turned out, even to the axiom of choice are equivalent.
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Putting him in the category makes him look as if he had died of an overdose of recreational drugs. I don't see how the fact that he used pills rather than a pistol matters.
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This: "On the night of Sunday 25 January all three took barbiturates. Both Hausdorff and his wife Charlotte were dead by the morning of the 26 January." is from this:
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candles, and wasn't he sleeping well?), "maintained an outward appearance of industry" (just an appearance, or the real thing?), "proceeded apace" (proceeded
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POV?), "with customary drive and determination" (now we're experts on matters of "custom"), "remained productive" (and produced
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pace, exactly?), "maintained normalcy" (bollocks to you), "persevered in his with his habitual industry" (does this sound
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you were Antonius Block (who might actually have won his chess game, had he kept his mouth shut).
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Much of this reads like something written by a native German speaker. Needs thorough revision.
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about his method of suicide - or the drug cathegories should be removed.
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talking about the son of Hausdorff. Is my interpretation correct?
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well-ordering theorem. This is the Hausdorff maximal principle.
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What does Hausdorff being jewish have to do with the criticism?
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Whose 'impression'? This is a meaningless assertion.
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MacTutor History of Mathematics entry for Hausdorff
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