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sect. This seems to be done as a qualifier: "the reviewer gave a negative review, BUT said this tiny part was awesome about the book..." -- that seems a bit POV. If overall Reception of that particular review was negative, the excerpted quote should reflect that, without the "but"
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So I did some research, concluded that an Impact section would be feasible but not necessary, and a Themes section would be quite difficult... after all, this is GA, not FA. You may start the review if you wish. If this article needs to be failed, so be it.
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Yeah, this is a big topic -- with a lot more secondary source coverage than is currently represented in the article. One would expect subsections for Themes, Genre, Impact, Academic analysis, at least a couple of those. Very very very good model at =
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Okay, sounds good, you're correct that it's GA level review and not FAC. In the interim, due to comments requesting more time, above, I'd put several other GA Reviews on my plate. I'll get to those first and then come back to this one. —
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later, reusing the reviews currently used. Found a huge neutrality issue (looked at the reviews cited, reception should be described as "mixed" rather than "generally negative". Do not mix up the movie with the book though.
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This article's Good Article nomination has been put on hold. During review, some issues were discovered that can be resolved without a major re-write. This is how the article, as of October 28, 2015, compares against the
535:- shows lots of problems. Problem defined as = anything with a "200" value with a comment next to it, or anything other than a "0" or "200" value. Please archive all those links, and as many other links as possible, with 325:
Hey, no, I'm not sure yet but I would probably put it on hold. Anyways, I took on another GA Review, and put that one as priority above this one. Please though, do keep me posted here, when you're ready. :) —
827:, any update on this? It appears the review has been abandoned. If there is no update in the next few days, it's best to just close this. A new nomination and review can take place afterwards. 617:
score of twenty-four (24) percent, which for some reason is not mentioned in favor of the higher Metacritic score, we cannot say the film reaction was "mixed", but rather "negative". The
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only, but please do familiarize yourself at least with how to review, and then think about it. This is a way to help out the Knowledge (XXG) community by reducing our GA Review
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here. Lede sect is too short, covers more info about the amazing sales than the reception at this time. That seems a bit imbalanced, at least upon this inspection.
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https://tools.wmflabs.org/copyvios/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Fifty+Shades+of+Grey&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=0&use_links=1
635:. I see a talk page complaint in a sect asking why zero of that material is mentioned or summarized back at parent article. This appears to be unaddressed. 524:
templates are predominately already used, please standardize the article to increase uniformity, throughout, and make sure all cites are standardized with
734:"Critics Consensus: While creatively better endowed than its print counterpart, Fifty Shades of Grey is a less than satisfying experience on the screen." 122: 52: 773:
Checklinks - HTTP 301 means permanent redirect, which is totally fine. I checked this about a month ago and confirmed that the websites are usable.
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Upon my inspection of article edit history and article talk page history, huge chunk of material was recently split off to sub article at
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would be a good place to discuss critical analysis of the work compared to young-adult fiction, , the book's origins as fan-fiction, the
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Please address these matters soon and then leave a note here showing how they have been resolved. Within 7 days, the article should be
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Thank you very much for your efforts to contribute to Quality improvement on Knowledge (XXG), it's really most appreciated !!!
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The word "but" is used seventeen (17) times throughout the entire article. Aside from POV issues with its specific use in
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Sure, you may close this. Cirt has been inactive for more than a month, and the review isn't conducted properly anyway.
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An Impact section is also possible. However, due to my lack of content creation experience, this may take some time.
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concerns. Do you think it should be selectively merged back into this article, and serve as a Themes section?
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templates to accomplish this. It will increase the posterity of the article's quality over the long term. —
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I will also add a new section about the background/conception of this novel (as Twilight fan fiction named
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from that split off article could be covered back at this article in a sub sect of Reception titled
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http://dispenser.homenet.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webchecklinks.py?page=Fifty_Shades_of_Grey
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to archive all links with any value other than a "0" or "200" by Checklinks. You can use
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Closing as unsuccessful for now. It's a shame the reviewer hasn't been active lately.
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analysis is based on two-hundred-and-twenty-four (224) reviews -- quite a large
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As I haven't even begun the actual review yet, and I've got one other one,
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score of twenty-four (24) percent, critics actually liked the movie
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Article not neutral at this time. Material that was split off at
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should be at least briefly covered back in the article. With a
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might be wiser than I on what conclusions to draw from this
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Let me know when you're ready for me to start the review? —
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I'm seeing mixing of cite styles throughout article. As
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entire review, and not interspersed throughout, thanks!
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entire review, and not interspersed throughout, thanks!
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only, but I ask you to please at least read over the
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