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its wings wide open until 1968, which is not true. The eagle had been changed to its current position at least since the 1930s. If "officialty" is the question here, at least the article should specify that the eagle was changed to its current position since the beginning of the 20th century, even if the variant wasn't declared "official" by law. I agree, there is an article for the coat of arms, but if the coat of arms is part of the flag, and not in a small little unnoticeable corner, but at the center, and being probably the most important feature of the flag, then any changes made to it should be mentioned in this article as well.--
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I will ask this him again once he comes on MSN. While it good that he will let us use his images, I believe we should be able to use images that are not created by him, so to make it appear that not only we are creative, but also show that we are not just leechers. I, however, made a note about that
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Wierd, I would have to read the 1968 law, since I had read some book or article saying that it did specify some colors. Even if there have been only 4 official declarations of the national flag, as described in the article, from reading it, I might have concluded that the eagle was positioned with
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These are the historical flags of Mexico and the coat of arms are exactly equal to that of the coins minted in the times of the flags and are completely different to those from this article. These are lower quality and less size but are the correct ones.
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PLEASE REMOVE THE PICTURE OF EX-PRESIDENT VICENTE FOX FROM THE ARTICLE IS A SHAME TO SEE THAT GUY THERE. BESIDE IN MEXICALI, BAJA CALIFORNIA IS ANOTHER MONUMENTAL FLAG.
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