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This is not the sort of things covered by "Video Game Guides", but rather independent analysis of the math behind the game. The fact that the analysis was undertaken is noteworthy, the small number of games that are not winnable are also noteworthy (and have been noted by several web sites). --
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I am hardly alone, as the very fact that this material was added to WP as long ago as 2009 attests. And there are many websites discussing this: just google some combination of "Freecell", "12982", and "Dave Ring". Although it's easy to manufacture unwinnable combinations, the fact that the
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