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books, one from 1962 (twenty-six years before this song was released), and 1975 (eleven years before the song was released). Finally, as proof that the author is merely grinding an axe, we have this little treasure: "The stereotype of all blacks being criminals now seems to be completely foolish." Ice Cube only went so far into stereotypes when he rapped about police searching his "looking for the product, thinking ever nigga is selling narcotics". There is not a lyric about "all blacks being criminals". This is original research and thoughts by the author of Themes.
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consist of only words, but also of voices and other sounds) or the album. I downloaded a 30 second sample of Public Enemy's Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos from Knowledge. I think that that is a larger proportion of that copyrighted work because it contains the original audio. For what it's worth, my view is that even if the quotation is exempt from copyright (possible) and even if Knowledge is brave enough to take advantage of any exemption (slightly less likely), this article would not benefit from such a long quote.
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involved in, with the exception of Eazy-E who used to deal drugs. The song's about other people's run-ins with the police. The reason the song was so popular is that it spoke to real people's experiences with police brutality, corruption, and racial profiling, even if it may not have actually happened to them.
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mentions quotes, but seems to be mostly about images. If we decide to quote a few lines to illustrate a point, I would be surprised if that was a copyright violation. I'm not sure that anything beyond that is necessary for an encyclopedia article. If we decide that Knowledge might be prohibited from
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song lyrics are all over the internet, but that doesn't necessarily give wiki permission to reprint. I'm looking around EMI's site (they're the label that I think now owns NWA catalog material) to see if there's a clear copyright policy. Knowledge is going to be included in a linux software drop in
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Back in the 90's, a friend of mine had a version of this song (I assume a remix done by NWA) that was different than the version on the album. This version ended with what sounded like somebody swearing profusely in Spanish. Anybody know what version this is, and/or on what album it came from? Was
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Okay, here is the deal: I was planning on probably quoting the complete lyrics in the article, my view being that as long as someone started the article, it wouldn't be a stretch if the entire song was typed up: that's not necessary; but I would like to include at least the first four lines of Ice
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Whoever made up the themes section has an axe to grind. Not only do the NWA never even mention white crime in Fuck tha Police, the song is about police brutality and racial profiling! Yet the author of "Themes" has it that the song is about white crime. To try and source this, the author uses two
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Well, they were thrown down on the pavement and held at gunpoint, which may have been somewhat extreme. It's not really about the NWA members' actual experiences with the police, though - that particular incident was, if I'm not mistaken, the only criminal activity any of NWA's members were ever
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That depends on what you take as the copyrighted work. Reproduced here was the whole of the written form of that stanza, nearly one third of the written form of that lyric (it included three stanzas and Judge Dre's adjudication) and some smaller proportion of the audio version (my copy doesn't
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ended up on your use, and WHAT percentage of your use consists of the copyrighted work? In this case, 100% of the original lyrics were on our site, which would almost certainly exceed fair-use rules (courts have never put a firm threshold number on the relative proportion test).
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reproducing a whole stanza here, then at least we can link to OHHLA. OHHLA had legal trouble once. I think that it had to take down its audio samples, but not its lyrics. I'm not an American or a lawyer, so you might like to take this with a pinch of salt.
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Fuck tha Police is about Police Brutality! About persecution! About the struggles of urban black youths! It has nothing to do with white people beyond racist white police officers. It never went into the struggles of all black people.
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Doing some research on the net has left me with the impression that it's generally ok to quote song lyrics, but it's best to ask first - do you think this necessitates an e-mail to the record label checking up on the legality of the
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I realize it was quite a few years ago, but if this sort of thing happened today wouldn't everyone just laugh at them? Like, "You were harrassing people on the street with a paintball gun and the police stopped you, and you're
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Why is the word "nigga'" censored? If we're adult enough to include the word "Fuck" in the title and repeatedly in the body of a work of academia, why not "nigga" or "nigger", especially in a quote?
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I have heard this song used very often in Libertarian seminars and gatherings. it seems to be a big thing for some Libertarians esp. black Libertarians. Therefore Ive added the libertarian sidebar.
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Cube's verse. And by the way, as Tim pointed out, less than one-third of the words to the song were reproduced: only Ice Cube's verse (there are two more verses, one by
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Anybody see Ice Cube at a movie promo being serenaded by two real cops singing "Fuck the Police"? I saw it recently. He looked really confused and not happy about it.
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Answering my own question :) The name of the song is called Sa Prize (Part 2) and is on their 'efil4zaggin' album. So it's not actually a remix, but a sequel.
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Yes, but OHHLA (Original Hip-Hop Lyrics Archive)has been doing it for years, and no one has raised objections. It is an established site. See:
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Alright, let's wait and see then. Then you should note that NWA song lyrics are quoted in other Knowledge articles, such as
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I don't think that that request is legally enforceable, but it would be polite of Knowledge to follow it. Unfortunately,
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the future, so there's a concerted effort to make sure everything is as 'clean' as possible.. copyvios, formatting, etc.
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I believe that this lyric is copyrighted and that publishing part of it is not copywrite or by fair use. I looked at
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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The first four lines are a very good choice. I've thought more about linking to OHHLA here. The OHHLA FAQ says:
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Also, please leave the copyvio notice in place while the article is looked at by better judges of copyright.
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If anyone's watching this page, the song is intermittently—but in pretty equal numbers—refered to as both
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If we need permission, then that might be a problem. Any permission must be compatible with the
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One of the fair-use tests can be described as a relative proportion test... WHAT percentage
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I'm deleting it. It's a complete farce, and it is clearly meant to incite.
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It's not copyright violation: see Original Hip-Hop Lyrics Archive:
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hoping that the Knowledge article might mention it, but doesn't.
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Request a fair use examination of this article with lyrics.
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