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and informative than 'mathematics' while obviously implying the subject matter to be mathematics. There is a fine line between targeting a broader audience and being as accurate as possible without being overly specific. I think 'formal number theory' is a happy medium. If I were to consider a runner-up, it would be your previously proposed 'mathematical logic'. Both seem fine to me. I used 'formal number theory' because it is popular in the literature (see Kleene,
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Does the term “Gödel numbering” refer to the general method, or to one particular choice of numbering? The first sentence of the article suggests the latter, but the phrasing “A Gödel numbering” in the section in question suggests the former. This could be mitigated by leaving out the article “A”, which, according to
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I agree with Carl here. As far as I'm aware, there is no agreed abstract definition of what a Gödel numbering is in general, mainly because the need for such a definition has never been felt. Ordinarily one doesn't treat Gödel numberings in general, so why bother to define them in general? That's not
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I do not know much in the way of number theory, but it appears that Godel numbering is what is needed to construct a mathematical equivalent to the usage of the phrase "This page intentionally blank" on blank pages. It is self-refuting, in that it falsifies itself by its very existence on the page in
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Formal number theory is essentially propositional logic with peano arithmetic and/or any extension thereof. The domain is the natural numbers (or (0 and) the positive integers). It is also known as simply 'arithmetic' - i.e., theories closed under addition and multiplication in which the naturals can
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The term is actually not specific at all, though it is accurate. It is not as general as mathematics, but it is far more informative. If I said, "what subject do you think formal number theory falls in?" to a non-mathematician, I'm sure they'd be able to respond "mathematics". So it is more specific
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that other people like me might appreciate a practical demo along these lines. Anome - A paragraph along these lines at the end could be a good idea. I guess it's worth pointing out the difference between a single instantiation like this, and the mathematician's quest for a general exposition.
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Tried to follow the link to 'Visualising...' but was told that access was not authorised (university site). I have replaced the link with one to the same article on the author's blog - though this link may be less long-lived it is accessible. However the actual article is pretty technical and only
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Its very curious to postulate mappings of mathematical statements/objects to numbers, and then to not exclude the possibility of manipulations of equations/statements to correspond to functions on the numbers,... but Id love to see real practical examples of this (the wiki page is more like: hey we
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There shouldn't be a proof of the undecidability theorem here anyway. This article is linked from several articles on computation theory, and anyone following the links is going to be horribly confused as the discussion gets into needless detail on Gödel's own application and says nothing about the
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Then does not the next statement say "it cannot be proved that v cannot be proved"? Which doesn't condense into anything, I don't see how the "v" can disappear out of the equation. It seems to say nothing more than that "v" is undefined, which seems reasonable, since we didn't define it (although
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Anome is correct, there are a number (infinite?) of different mappings that are possible for use in Gödel's proof. I believe Gödel's original numbering system, however, used prime numbers taken to different powers to differentiate between variables, sentential variables and predicate variables. The
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John - you may well be right. But in defense of a separate article, I thought there could be a place for a slightly less formal article on this topic. Gödel lite, as it were. I personally struggled to grasp the technical side of the argument (as expert readers can no doubt tell(!)), and I hoped
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Thanks. Now that you wrote this I realize that the second part of the sentence says that clearly. The problem was in the first part, which is obviously meant to state the same more concisely, but leaves an ambiguity, if taken by itself. The root of that ambiguity is in the definition of the lemma:
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The shortcoming is due to the fact that any number to the power of zero is set to one, by arbitrary definition of the zero power. Logically, the number of multiplications of a number by itself is what is indicated by an integer power. If it is not multiplied at all, say x to the zero power, the
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Secondly, it is impossible in a straight line, so to speak, to encode an algorithm which in one step produces a result from a single (say) number as input and then the next step is its complete reversal, i.e. from the results of the computation to derive the original input point. The shortcoming
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The shortcoming is due to the fact that any number to the power of zero is set to one, by arbitrary definition of the zero power. Logically, the number of multiplications of a number by itself is what is indicated by an integer power. If it is not multiplied at all, say x to the zero power, the
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Secondly, it is impossible in a straight line, so to speak, to encode an algorithm which in one step produces a result from a single (say) number as input and then the next step is its complete reversal, i.e. from the results of the computation to derive the original input point. The shortcoming
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GN cannot be performed in all of mathematics or computer science. It doesn't make any sense to say "In mathematics and computer science, GN is..." because you cannot perform GN in numerous branches of mathematics - i.e. you cannot perform GN in the theory of real closed fields because you cannot
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I am a music theorist with an interest in logical systems. From a layperson's perspective our English page is woefully inadequate on this topic. "Goedel lite" is not very helpful even if the mapping concept is properly conveyed. For more useful articles on this topic, see the German and Chinese
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For example, cyclic or self-referential statements cannot be for one identified easily as this would require solution of the entire sequence of integer numbers obtained for each statement in turn and identification of the closure of a loop (there can indeed be many loops in a logically flawed
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For example, cyclic or self-referential statements cannot be for one identified easily as this would require solution of the entire sequence of integer numbers obtained for each statement in turn and identification of the closure of a loop (there can indeed be many loops in a logically flawed
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Perhaps we could appeal to the relevant Knowledge embassies to give us, perhaps not a complete translation, but some idea of what the content of the other articles is. I'm not inclined to, but it's an idea. Hmmm, German, English, Chinese, formal logic, music... an interesting combination.
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Note that the exact form of the Gödel number encoding is unimportant: there just needs to be a 1:1 mapping between local statements and manipulable expressions such as integers. You can do clever stuff with arithmetic, or you can just follow Chaikin and use Lisp S-expressions --
825:=#F. Here #F is the number of the form F(x). The statements are derived by inserting constant numbers instead of x in the form. For instance #F(1) would be 25 and #F(2) would be 1*4+2*4+ 1*4 + 1*4. Generally, the number of the statement for constant n will be 1392:
I fear that this would just look silly. The whole idea of Gödel numbers is fairly esoteric. You need to know quite a lot of mathematics before you'd have the slightest clue that they were useful. The things that they are used to prove seem nonsensical to the
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Formal number theory may be the correct term to use, but the term is too specific. Most people will have no idea what you are talking about (e.g. myself). So I think it is better, even if slightly incorrect, to use more generic fields like
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have no solutions in natural numbers! So, the Gödel number depends on encoding and may be irrational or not exist if encoding is wrong. What is the proper encoding? Getting the number I want to decode it and look at the statement F(#F).
1741:. A Gödel number is only defined based on an overall Gödel numbering and the fact that a statement has Gödel number 258 is completely meaningless without knowing the Gödel numbering used. Any objections to moving the article? Cheers, — 1780:
Are their explicit examples of parts of mathematics that are very well served by a canonical godel numbering which displays how certain manipulations/simplifications are reduced to simple algorithms on the godel numbers of their data?
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There is though a very serious flaw with Godel numbering as it is based on integer factorization. It is impossible to encode the number zero ("0") with the basic theorem of arithmetic used in the encoding as described above.
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occurs in the all of the supposedly 'different' meanings. What was intriguing to me was the idea that a 'computation' might be replaced by an 'assignment' in the sense of a telephone switchboard operator, who would physically
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define the naturals. I am reverting again to formal number theory, and I hope I have made myself clear as to why. If not, we'll need to talk about it in the article's discussion page. I don't see why we should need to, though.
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These are just some fundamental direct flaws with the so called Incompleteness Theorems. The other serious flaw is the consideration of "closure" or "independence" of the axioms comprising and axiomatic space to begin with.
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These are just some fundamental direct flaws with the so called Incompleteness Theorems. The other serious flaw is the consideration of "closure" or "independence" of the axioms comprising and axiomatic space to begin with.
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analogy, a telephone number is a code for a person. Dial the number and talk to the person. We do not yet have a technology to connect remotely with another person without that code. There are technologies such as the
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I agree--the sketch here doesn't seem correct. I don't believe you can construct the required sentence using the R defined here--you need a statement form that describes self-unprovability, not just provability. The
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I speak no German to mention, but even I can tell it's not a perfect article in German. But food for thought, and they do have the advantage that much of Gödel's work on this was originally published in German.
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A Gödel numbering can be interpreted as an encoding in which a number is assigned to each symbol of a mathematical notation, after which a sequence of natural numbers can then represent a sequence of strings
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My advice is, be aware that many who do come here do not have the understanding needed to make sense of what they read, but will acquire it, and among those who struggle hardest at this may be the next
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Can you give the Gödel number G=#F(#F) for F(x)=~x? The tells that the Gödel number for the Gödel sentence is 'precisely defined'. How do they derive it if the provability predicate P is not known? --
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mapping? Though injectiveness is implied by the fact that reference is made to the mapping's inverse (which doesn't exist for non-injective maps), I think injectiveness should be stated explicitly.
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It may be helpful to relate the history for the Gödel numbering concept for the readers, such as its use in Georg Cantor's transfinite numbers, in Gödel's theorems, and in Church's expositions. --
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Anyway, the numbering method used in this wiki article is capable of coding sequences of formulae, so I'm not sure why you thought otherwise. Why did you? Because it isn't explicitly stated?
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Godel's original used only 7 elementary operators and assigned primes, squared primes, and cubed primes to the 3 variables u listed respectively above - at least according to E. Nagel in
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Both are true: Being a function, a Gödel numbering assigns to every formula a unique natural number (cf. also the English lead). However, there are many such functions (this is meant in
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where the name of a 'person' connects you right to the 'person' without the code, but the idea has been around for over 30 years with no commercial product in sight, for the moment. --
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is finite. There are other examples that would work with an infinite number of basic symbols. For example, the one originally used by Gödel and presented in the first section. — Carl
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refers to Gödel numbering in passing, so maybe the link should be removed entirely - since guidelines suggest: "Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum." --
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hasn't published a general definition of "Gödel numbering", but unless that definition is in common use (which it certainly isn't), it shouldn't be presented here as the default. --
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is also short, but it does look in some (not all) ways a better article than ours. Ours rambles and speculates. The German article, by comparison, has only the following sections:
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Do you read those languages? Can you convey to other editors what might be useful to add? The essential idea of mapping concepts to counting numbers is already in the article. --
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Why not add a simple example or two near the beginning. Assign numbers to symbols as in one of the comments below and do a formula-to-number and a number-to formula example.
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mapping currently demonstrated in the article only works for encoding symbols and formulas but not sequences of formulas, a necessary characteristic for Gödel's proof. --
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OK. I'm unconvinced, but I don't intend to take it any further. Mainly I just wanted some other people to have a look at the issues I raised. Glad you like the article.
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I don't understand the formal account of the proof. Surely the first statement in fact means simply "v cannot be proved"? Where does this "type" thing come into it?
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I'm afraid I don't think any of that has much to do with Gödel numbering. The only use I know of these numbers is to establish that things such as solutions to the
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are fascinating to the uninitiated, so we do need to do our best. But we musn't stray into inaccuracy for the sake of simplicity. It's not a simple topic.
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is a confusing one, particularly to non-specialists. Even many specialists are still trying to figure out exactly what the consequences are, both for
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Perhaps skolemnization, or a sensible numbering on a kind of graphs, with corresponding graph manipulations becoming arithmetical on their numbers?
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Thanks for the link. My heart warmed as I read the article, which is clear, easy to read, has citations, and uses standard concepts such as the
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But if the subject is a newsy and confusing one on which many are already misinformed before they come here, that's not the fault of the
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arises by the use of the fundamental theorem of arithmetic, i.e. prime factorization, in that it does not contain the zero value.
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arises by the use of the fundamental theorem of arithmetic, i.e. prime factorization, in that it does not contain the zero value.
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The current definition (without the vandalism) is nonsense. Does anybody have a definition that satisfies these characteristics?
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that undergirded their most famous work. So for the sake of these strugglers, I commend all those struggling with this article.
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which give some sources (but nothing online unless you read Hungarian) but no other citations, and reads to me very much like
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can be improved? Bear in mind that if it were to make this subject look simple to a non-specialist, that would be very good
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Only Gödel's use of natural numbers as a code, and the use of the codes of OEIS to denote sequences of natural numbers. --
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There is a very different meaning of the term Gödel numbering relating to numberings of the class of computable functions.
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Should this article more properly be moved to "Gödel number", or are the numbers better known by the "phonetic" form?
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without comment here. Either someone agrees with me, or they feel that the confusing material has been removed.
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at the start of the article because I thought you deleted my previous edit because it was to specific. What is
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x, ¬R(v,x) Can also be interpeted to mean "The negation of a proposition of type v can be proved", yielding:
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section and replace it with a discussion of the various specific settings where the phrase is used.
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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that the final sequence of numbers represents. So it is a little confusing… Included in Godel’s
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is infinite in ordinary maths. For instance, there are infinitely many Mathieu functions.
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I think (if this is true) that we should find this meaning and include it in the article.
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Now, I want to get the Gödel number for the statement F(n=#F). However, the equation
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to the main article as John suggests. I'll leave that decision to the meta-mind.
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don't exist. They have no practical application, only this theoretical use in
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Please, if you tag an article, give us some idea why you are tagging it.
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x=(0,1,¬, ask) R(0,0)=¬0 = ask 1 R(1,1)=(¬0)0 = ask 0 R(1,0)=0 R(0,1)=1
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I'm familiar with OEIS. But what has this to do with Gödel numbering?
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I followed the links you highlighted and discovered that the keyword
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can encode, and in theory we can do operations on the encoding,...)
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Based on this I am commenting out said statement in the article. --
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I'm not trying to be elitist here. But you wouldn't try to define
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is. I feel that some of the edits to this article, while I hope
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for general discussion about Gödel numbers. Any such comments
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Moving the good faith contribution here. Discussion welcome
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connection between numberings and programming languages.
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or something like that - that's what should be there)
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or in decimal notation= 1*4+ 2*4 + 0*4 = 16 + 8 = 24
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