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complete picture of the city should be created. In the recent past, Kochi was poor, and now it has high growth around 12% (which, in and of itself tells you the city was recently in a low state of development). That said, there has been generally bad behavior all around concerning this edit war. Thusly: Prathambhu, I ask that you cease your efforts to propagandize the Kochi article. Please feel free to continue editing this and any other article, but be aware that continuing this dispute will result in a block. For the other editors involved in this dispute, when the article is opened back up, I will enforce 3RR with short duration blocks, and additional page protection. As for hashing things out on this talk page, I would ask that editors begin crafting concise, clear statements regarding whatever it is they are arguing for. Prathambhu, I single you out in particular as your posts have been borderline incomprehensible.
2853:
the removal of the warning, even I noticed it now. I've redid it back. If I had done that on purpose I could have removed all the warnings displayed in my talk page. I know removing something from a userpage is not hidden. Anyone can notice it. It's not a big deal. Anyway, congrats for doing this research. These are nothing compared to what you've did. I've just tried editing my profile, as the part of my experiments. But what you've did is edit some other's profile. Now who is a kid here. You cannot convince me or anyone else with your stupid explanations regarding the removal of the pics. Along with undoing the pics you are also removing the fact written about the St. Francis CSI Church under it's pic, which is not given anywhere else in the article. I don't know how to fill some sense in you.
3931:" was discussed before. Kochi and Kerala was slow to industrialise and is still way behind other leading SI cities. Even Coimbatore, Madurai, Dharwad etc are ahead of the industries in all 3 cities of Kerala combined. Thiruvananthapuram and Calicut is very less industrialised and Kochi is leading in Kerala; but not with respect to leading South Indian cities. Anyways, I havent checked the citations provided by you after re-phrasing the sentence. Good going with the edits, but please remember not to overtone or glorify the article. Hope you will soon get the norms of editing wiki pages, and stay long here. --
2805:
you've rather edited my profile, to make yours different, after being warned by the admin. This is most shameful on you. By the way, I accept that civic administration covers the corporation, judiciary, and police. But the Port trust is also an administrative wing, under the Indian govt. So there is no better section to publish this photo. Now don't say "then why publish it ?". I really don't understand why you don't like other people updating the article. Are you being selfish or you don't like Kochi. I really didn't mean to tell this much, but you've made me to. No offence.
2021:. You can verify the wording by going to the page. This does not mention about the present IT exports. Most of the upcoming major private investments in IT infrastructure are in Kochi. None of the above private IT SEZs are in Trivandrum, clearly showing that investment in IT infrastructure is nearly nil there and a case for comparison does not arise. It also reflects in the declining share of Trivandrum in IT exports. Until 2004 it was more than 95% of state's exports, but in 2008 it is less than 69% according to the data given by Chief minister in Kerala assembly
2767:, please refrain from undoing the useful edits made in the Civic Administration & the Economy section. I've added the pic of Port Trust in the civic admin section as it administres the Kochi port & FYI, Kochi is a port city & it is important to give the pic of the body which administers the same. This is not listed anywhere else in the administration section. I've also added the pic of Cochin Shipyard in the economy section, which is one of the most important public sector company, not only in Kochi but also in India. Mr
2539:, In India, the city corporations are formed after defining the city limits; not viceversa. It is natural that after some years, urbanisation gets extended to the adjoining areas of the city. These areas are termed as UA(Urban Agglomeration) or OG (OutGrowth) as per the government. Thus the city naturally refers to the corporation and the extended urban areas is termed as OG. Hence no need to specify that it is the second largest city corporation. Infact, it is the second largest city itself. Check the link:
2876:" If this is the case, can I add the administrative office building picture of "Andi Vikasana Co-operation Board" which is also under the govt? :-) Wake up. Dont give these kind of nutty explanations. Now regarding your user page: Dont try to act as if you are so genuine. If that is the case, you would have removed the false claims from your user page. But still it is the same. Also no one believe you if you say that you were not aware that you removed a warning yourself !!! how absurd!!! --
2673:, then kochi UA is not second. The word "city" is confusing. By adding the word "corporation", we do not hide any facts or put wrong facts. Then I dont understand why some editors are removing the word "corporation"..!! Also I dont understand why Kalamassery and Thripunithura (both municipalities,not panchayats) which share borders with Kochi corporation is not considered in list ....!! your list must be corporation + adjuscent municipalities + OG panchayats. isnt it?--
4156:" is not there in other city pages even though JNNURM buses are operating there too (well, the colour may be different :D ). Further, other cities like Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore etc does not contain all the stone and nail information about every thing in the city in the main page. The details are kept in the sub-pages. But here, you are trying to put so much info in to the main page, thus not keeping the article simple and high level. Cheers, --
2820:
complain about me. I dont give even a penny to your responses. I am from Kochi but it doesnt matter much. If you like or dislike Kochi, it is a problem here. Here you should be neutral. Not in favor of or not against of. Hope your brain is working now, and you are understanding the point. And the reasons for removing the pictures is the same as i stated earlier. Come back with a valid and logical answer kid. Let God give you a logical brain --
2790:
picture of cochin shipyard is not in a thumbnail format. It is a panoramic view. Also, 2 pictures exists in that section now. If you are so adamant in adding the shipyard photo, remove the picture of the
Infopark (IT contribution to Cochin economy is negligible when compared to other economic sectors). Also try to trim the photo to a square picture. If you are OK with these, add your pictures, else publish it in your own blog; not here. --
1815:. The tax figures are inflated in Kochi's case since many PSUs and private agencies have regional offices there where the taxes for sales across Kerala are reported. For example, tax revenue for sales of fuel across Kerala are reported at the regional office of IOCL/BPCL/HPCL located at Cochin. This anomaly will soon be resolved when the State completes roll-out of the Value Added Tax (VAT) system in the coming two years.
1034:
What I can say is this: Prathambhu, it appears that your behavior is actually the focus of the disruption here, and you are in fact the one trying to paint a rosy picture of the city. Additionally, you are the one who issued a level 3 warning to
Samaleks, which you should have mentioned. You should also be aware that I locked the article yesterday rather than block you for 24 hours on a 3RR violation.
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2838:. You removed a warning from an admin from your talk page. You were warned for creating another account yourself. See the true color. He used this account to award a star to himself. So pity. This reveals the true quality. I suggest you better start your own page in the cyber space and post all the pictures you want there. Please dont ruin the quality of wiki pages. --
3768:" with the edit summary as "Information is now sourced and has verifiable reference". I am not entirely convinced that this is a good way to go about this - as it stands, the Knowledge article is citing a newspaper/?blog review of a book by "Tanya Abraham" with a claim that MK Gandhi said/used these specific words in reference to Cochin. I believe that is stretching
3803:
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=zhGwA0umwAoC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=Kochi+Epitome+of+adventure&source=bl&ots=DYY70wWQvv&sig=TCnZzA5LXMJPDqeq8m6Y0F7SZYs&hl=en&ei=blyxTJzXNI2mvQPX3tS7Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Kochi%20Epitome%20of%20adventure&f=false
1190:, which state that the city needs a developement plan to recover from the economic stagnation. Moreover, I found lot and lot of links when I googled. There is no point in arguing with some people who always try to coat colourful paints to cover potholes. Those people deny the existance of any negative images in their beloved city. I remember the
1422:: Back to Kochi article. This time, it is the economic stagnation. Also added the statement that Kochi is the industrial and commercial capital of Kerala. (it is already mentioned in the lead that Kochi is the commercial hub of Kerala; and in the economy section that Kochi is the economic capital of Kerala by volume of trade.)
1567:) and other users of vandalism. I am actively editing wikipedia since 2006. And I have constructed and promoted many articles, and even achieved in promoting some articles to the FA status. I dint yet understand what vandalism I have done! He was just pasting the template on my talk page without understanding what
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do have made such tags. Hence undue interest is expressed by few here to retain an insignificant sentence. Friends, at
Knowledge, our sole interest to ensure readers know the real and true information without sense of promotion, loyalty or bias. I think, lets avoid using this forum for showcasing our
4178:
Let me repeat. My sole argument for suggesting deletion of the distance from capital is that most of the other similar cities don't have it. You need to show what is different about Kochi to demand a deviation from that norm. Having other similar deviations is not a reason for having this one. We can
3862:
I am sorry to inform you that your last sentence ("I feel that makes nothing wrong to determine his reference that the city is an epitome of adventure") suggests to me that you and possibly many others have assumed that Gandhi mean't that "Cochin is the epitome of adventure" but if there is no direct
3800:
Gandhi was referring to the fact, Kochi and its backwaters (Surrounding water bodies) which may appear as sea to him, that it is an epitome of adventure. He was referring to the place Fort Kochi, which was the first point in India where
European Colonization started with portuguese, dutch, french and
2869:
The Civic
Administration covers Corporation, Judiciary, and Police. How come the Cochin port picture can be shown in that section? Also, the picture of the HC is already added in that section. The picture of cochin shipyard is not in a thumbnail format. It is a panoramic view. Also, 2 pictures exists
784:
Mr.; It seems that you are loving your city too much. That is what is provocating you to blindly add colourful images to the city page. Please understand that, here in wikipedia, we follow many guidelines. First read those carefully before jumping in to making changes to the article. If you not going
4244:
What is a
Majority? There is ABSOLUTE MAJORITY, which means something is more than 50%. Then there is relative majority, which says something is more than the other. Absolute majority is useful only for voting on something. It doesn't apply when you classify things. The assertion in the article goes
1721:
Thank you again for taking the pains for verifying this. I am sure wiki stands to gain greater heights bringing this scandal to light. I am all for independent mediation by wiki administrators. Actually I feel my job half done as already an administrator (you) have at least seen this manipulation. I
738:
The tax details is not particular about the city. The page is about the Kochi city. So, its more good to enter the details in Kochi metropolitan area. Too much details are not needed in the main article. However we can mention that in the article, but definitely not in this overtoned manner. Why you
4526:
Dear
Dileepks69, the information you added about NASSCOM ratings is of 2002. According to the 2009 rankings, Bangalore stands first, followed by Chennai. Kochi is in the 12th position. May be the uncertainity on Smart city might have pulled down the rank of Kochi. In fact, the Smart city issue have
4193:
Dear
Friends, I join with Dileep that quoting insignificant distance from the state capital is irrelevant, as it serves no use. We have a map locator hence it helps a person to understand the position. Since most of the similar 2nd tier cities pages donot have similar norm or standard in Knowledge,
4133:
Dear
Chektomate, could you please point out which part of my message was impolite? I agree that it is not a big mistake. What I don't understand is the reason why it should be retained. No one, including you, have given a reason for retaining it, other than stating "it should be retained". Allow me
4095:
Well, I know a lot of editors would agree and believe with you, but you failed to answer the question. VAST MAJORITY of the cities do not quote distance to capital, then what is the reason behind your insistence here? Kindly answer that please. And how does it relate to the neatness and cleanliness
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IMO, it is a significant and interesting point worthy to be included in the lead. Kochi has 47% Hindus per the census report - this falls short of majority. Since, Kerala and India has a Hindu majority; and most big cities have a Hindu majority; this feature is distinctive to Kochi and fits well in
2852:
Seems that you have done a lot of research all these days regarding my profile. I've added barnstars created another profile & placed posts in my profile. All these were part of my experiments with
Knowledge & my user profiles, when I really started editing. I don't do it now. Now regarding
1122:
These are the two important points of dispute. As administrator, I hope you are in a position to seek the opinion of others involved in this dispute on the above points. If they have a reasonable answer to the above questions, this dispute would be resolved. But from my experience apart from Rajith
857:
I have protected the page for three days in order to give everyone a chance to step back and deescalate the edit war. My other option is to start handing out blocks. I would strongly encourage all involved parties to try and find a NPOV consensus here on the talk page. Failing that, please consider
799:
If have gone through the article, you can see that the infopark is mentioned stating that it lies in he outskirts of the city. There is NO reference about FACT or HMT. The Eloor industrial belt is mentioned in the article, saying that it is 17 kms away from the city. The same is the case with CIAL.
718:
Economic stagnation definitely depends upon GDP. If you observe the GDP, there was no increase in the percentages till 2003. Later, the whole state economy began to show growing signs, and Kochi too. Economic stagnation doesnt means economically poor. Rich countries can also be stagnant, when their
1915:
By this standards, I am fully correct in saying that there was no "decades of economic stagnation until 2003 in Kochi". Those who claim so must provide GDP growth data, if available. What is available is a growth data for the state of Kerala, and that says the state's GDP was growing at 6% through
1810:
1. Tax revenue is not the correct measure of the economic contribution of a region within an economy, it is the Gross Domestic Product (GDP). In this sense, Trivandrum accounts for 10.9% of the State GDP while Ernakulam (Kochi) accounts for 14%, a marginal difference of only 3%. Trivandrum has the
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page also mentions the depressed economy. Granted, this a non-scholarly google search, which obviously pulls many pages drawing the same language, but it doesn't seem like an outlandish statement to indicate that Kochi had a stagnant economy for some time, before taking off in this decade. Whether
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on a wiki at IIIT-Hyderabad says that Gandhi addressed a meeting in Cochin in 1925 and said: "Living on the seaside you are aware of what adventure can do. The sea is an epitome of adventures." Is it possible that this statement is the basis of the claim that Cochin is "the epitome of adventure"?
2804:
So you know how to talk. Mr or Mrs, whatever. Where in the rules is given that you cannot add more than 2 photos in a particular section. There is no problem in giving the shipyard photo in the economy section. By the way, I would have respected your views if you had created your own profile. But
2520:
The sentence "kochi is the second largest city" should be changed to "city corporation" or "municipal corporation"as the word "city" can be applied to a corporation, a metro or to an urban agglomeration and make confusion. In Idukki district, even small junctions are called a "city" by locals. So
1848:
After looking this over, Prathambhu is clearly editing in a tendentious manner that creates a strong POV in favor of Kochi. Since we are not here to create travel brochures, this is inappropriate editing. However, this does not mean the article has to reflect poorly on the city, but rather that a
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page Rajith Mohan admits he has no GDP data (at least for the time being) to support the claim. But he continues to re-insert the claim !! Samaleks did an even funnier thing, he inserts a political statement from an opposition politician as proof of stagnation, while the referred item talks about
1033:
I have extended the protection on this article, since it appears that opening it back up today would not be constructive. I plead ignorance in all things Kochi, so I would like to emphasize that I am not the person who should act as an arbiter of the truth here (nor am I even empowered to do so).
378:
I've been unable to figure out the meaning of "Teri's", and the disambiguation page which was linked had nothing related so I de-linked the word Teri. The only thing I could find was something about the Tata Energy Research Institute; is this an anagaram and some reference, perhaps, to a research
3998:
It is natural and not a wrong notion to refer a place with the distance from the capital. Comparisons with New York / Los Angeles does not suits here. Further, it is not about being located independently; it is about giving an information to the readers that how far it is situated from the state
2819:
You are a liar. Not worth talking to you. I have read your talk page and got to know that you are displaying many things in your user page without actually being eligible for it. Ha ha.. and now trying to advise me?? This is so ridiculous. Grow up kid. First fix your user page, and then try to
2789:
How you are addressing me as 'Mr. ' without knowing my gender? The edits you made are not useful. The Civic Administration covers Corporation, Judiciary, and Police. How come the Cochin port picture can be shown in that section? Also, the picture of the HC is already added in that section. The
4076:
I too agree for keeping the info to quote the location with reference to the capital. I dont either believe it will reduce the importance (if that is your fear) of Kochi. Btw, I can see lot of edits which is slightly POV, may be due to the reason that some of these new editors hails from the
3971:
1. Metropolitan City Vs City. I see that a number of people hate the city being called a Metropolitan City. We should admit that the city is not yet considered as a metro. We could call it a city with metropolitan features, but not a metro city in reality. I think we should leave it at that.
3609:
What you mean by "without Hindu majority"? THe sentence is confusing. If you check the percentage of Hindus, it is more than the other religions. This implies that Hindus are the majority. Are you referring that Kochi is a city where Hindus is less than 50Â %Â ? If so, the claim "without Hindu
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The emphasis on the social service sectors to the subordination of commodity-producing sectors has inherently weakened the economy. The growth rate has been low, industrialisation slow and investments tardy. As the labour absorption in the private sector has been either stagnant or falling,
2165:
This was what we were telling from beginning.. This is an article about Kochi city. There are different articles about the district Ernakulam, which holds Kochi. There is also another article about the urban agglomeration of Kochi. I wish, if you could stop arguing endlessly to promote your
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district is the capital of Kerala and more than 60% of all employment there is through government service. This is not a wealth generating economic activity, unlike other service sectors, as it adds nothing absolute to the economy. So the Rs.7683.21 crore of tertiary sector GDP in this data
1991:
It is true of any industry - for example, Hindustan Latex manufactures health products (condoms) in its Trivandrum plant. The products are sold all over Kerala and India by many other marketing companies, but eventually a good part of the tax is paid at Trivandrum. And that, genuinely, is a
466:
I'm not sure if the stress indicated by the IPA transcription is correct - it marks the second syllable as being stressed, but I'm pretty sure that it should be the first (as with most Malayalam words). However, this distinction might be blurred due to the geminate consonant present in this
2414:
There is only one metro in South India, which is Chennai. The other cities are not considered metros. The South Indian cities ahead of Kochi in industrialization is Chennai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Coimbatore, Vizag, and Madurai. Among this, the only city in the metro status is Chennai.
3975:
2. Distance from Capital. I believe Cochin have sufficient standing on its own to be located independently, so this reference is un necessary. Does anyone give the distance of New York city from Albany, or Los Angeles from Sacramento? Do we really need that mention of that distance?
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to understand why your two links here are unacceptable as verifiable and reliable sources. The link page to the book on Google does not have any mention of the words "Kochi Epitome of adventure" except in the search box and the blog link cannot be considered a reliable source per
4174:
We are not talking about Mumbai and Bangalore. We are talking about cities and UAs similar to Kochi. And don't you think you are contradicting yourself when you say that there is too much information on the page, and at the same time, you want to retain a segment of information?
482:
I think the IPA is still correct. No offense, but quite frankly, I think to claim that words in Malayalam tend to have the stress on the first syllable is false and incredibly sweeping. Certainly this is not true of words that have long vowels in other syllables, e. g.
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Hiberniantears, I thank you and fully agree on your stand that the correct picture of the city must be presented and on the measures you have taken to ensure this in this wiki page. I am sure there are enough experts in wiki to give a word on the what it means to be
833:. Moreover, it is known from planning board data that Kerala as a whole was growing at over 6% thorugh out 1990s. I have no choice but to escalate this. Issuing a level 2 warning to ] - either prove your claim by adding credible reference or desist from vandalizing
709:
It seems that you are so interested to overtone the article. It is already mentioned in the lead, that Kochi is the commercial hub of Kerala. It is again mentioned in the starting of Economy section that Kochi is the economic capital of Kerala. Why adding the same
4462:
Well, wikimapia/google earth should be a reference if you can identify it without the assistance of any markup. A golf course is a very identifiable feature in a satellite map, and the image of the naval golf course is very clearly identifiable as a golf course.
980:
pages regarding the tax contributed by Kochi to the state of Kerala. The three users engaged in vandalism, identically calls this "glorification" and remove this info !! While this information is easily found to be identical to that exists on wiki articles on
3546:
Thanks for your opinion guys! I have a question though, why is this discussion not closed yet? It's more than seven days already. A consensus should have been made. To those who are responsible to close this discussion, procrastination is not good you know.
2542:
Also, see the government of India census site for detailed population across city and OG. Even if you consider the population of the corporation area(595575) + immediate adjoining OG area, the total population is 688604, which makes it the second largest in
1249:. Verbatim copies or slight modification from wikipedia !! None of them have any original data on growth !! So this is precisely what the above group wanted to achieve - knowing that many people depend on wikipedia for information (or even illegal copying)
1628:
If the construction should go on smoothly, User Prahambhu should agree to go with harmony, agreeing with other views, and understanding wiki policies; and if he is not willing, he should quit himself from editing the articles. I lose hope to educate this
195:
I am not a Sanskrit scholar, but 'Go Shree' seems very inappropriate for Kochi; the river, the young town, or small sea seem more likely. 'GoShree' is to satisfy some 'Hindutvavadi' (I am also one to some extent). Kaci (harbour) is close to Kashi/Kanchi.
1538:
He was going with his edits, without reaching a consensus with other editors. I failed to make him understand that his claims are superlative, and he is attempting the paint the potholes of the city, which will lose the neutral nature of the article.
1241:, this is a political statement by a politician belonging to the opposition party, nothing related to any authority, not based on any GDP data. And about the google pages - I repeated the search. Here is what I got from at least two dozen websites - (
1194:, who was blocked for doing the same with Kochi article. Prathambhu is also one among his genre, or possibly the same user again with another user name. As a senior and established editor, please block this user from fabricating the articles again. --
34:
Whle I don't want to be a sounding board for individual hotels, it may be worth adding some information about Fort Kochi's historical buildings that are now seeing the light of day as heritage hotels. If there is consensus we could add the following:
4373:
Hello all new editors here. I have tried to improve the article quality through some edits. I have tried to clearly state "what and why" of all the edits in the edit summary. I suggest to discuss here, if you have any concerns or questions about it.
1767:
Every correct information I add is glorification - is that not your point ? I have just briefed above that every elimination of info you and Samaleks did without consensus was even worse - it is plain FALSE. It is over 10 days we started discussing.
4447:
project is not authentic and stable, in the sense, it is open for all to edit and add(just like other wiki projects). Hence, I have replaced it with other citations. However, I couldnt find a valid reference for the golfcourse at Navalbase. Please
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in that section now. If you are so adamant in adding the shipyard photo, remove the picture of the Infopark (IT contribution to Cochin economy is negligible when compared to other economic sectors). Also try to trim the photo to a square picture.
3443:
IMO the context warrants a distinction between the places with the same name in India, Japan and Cyprus. Therefore the highlighting factor here is "Country" not "province-state". Had there been another Kochi in India, i would have voted support.
631:
Added information on tax generated in Kochi in the economy section, citing references, in line wiki page for Indian cities like Mumbai. This is the most highlight of an economy as it clearly describes how important an economy is to the state.
568:
Kochi, Kerala would be the better option here because the instruction of the Knowledge naming convention says so. Kochi is contained in Kerala, and Kerala is contained in India. The place in Japan is named Kochi, Hiroshima, not Kochi, Japan.
4203:
regional bias or city loyalty, which can be done in other net forums, where there are enough scope for doing so. My humble request, lets join our hands together in ensuring Wikikerala Project gets maximum FA status and better information. --
4245:
against the common sense of majority. It also makes un necessary connotations about the immaculately harmonious secular environment the region had been blessed with. Religion means NOTHING in the city, so it has no place in its wiki page.
3948:
I consider that statement to be delibrately phrased to show the city in a negative light, especially since it considerably deviates from the content cited. If you can phrase it according to the citation, I have no problem. Be my guest.
1936:
page then it would be a record in the history of mankind !! Wiki dispute resolution hopefully can relieve Kochi of such vandal generated "world records" and put back the proper reasonable, intelligible records that Kochi truly holds.
4280:
Since some editors seem to insist that the fact that Kochi is the second largest city in the state, I offer a compromise. Why don't we retain it, after removing the phrase "after the state capital"? It serves the fact, doesn't it?
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has most of it coming from government employees remunerations. The contribution to the GDP from government employee salaries is more than 75%, but even if I deduct a moderate 60%(Rs.4600 crore), what is left is just Rs.9900 crore.
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British trying to occupying the supremacy of the fort. He was intending that the sea and land was the epitome of all adventures and was asking local youth to get inspired and join into the adventure of getting Freedom for India.
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and not through show of numerical strength. While it is easy for vandals to organize and aid each other, truth prevails finally irrespective of such acts. I would request you to help the same by moving dispute resolution on this.
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is an islet between Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka where the fishermen dock their boats occasionally. (I've read somewhere that Sri Lankan Tamil evolved from the Cera dialect, which is also a predecessor to Malayalam.) You can look up
2180:
Also, the reference of economic stagnation was once removed by Rajithmohan. But you again pasted your version, along with the tax data for the district. I really have no idea how to deal with users who have specific intentions.
2134:
has brought this link to make a few points in this discussion. I hope everyone here will agree that GDP data released by State planning board - usually in annual economic review - is the final word on the issue of GDP growth in
1973:. At the price levels of 2006, with the 26-28% state tax on petroleum products this translates into a about Rs.2400 crore as the contribution of oil sales tax. Now that is almost double the tax collected from Kanayannur taluk,
1825:
I believe that this user is only one of a myriad set trying to create unrealistic impressions about the city. Many of this ilk have earlier been banned from Knowledge for trying to pursue this agenda despite repeated warnings.
4541:
Check, I saw the 'updated 2006' date stamp, and thought the report is of that date. My bad. I did do a search for later years, but didn't get a conclusive datapoint. You are most welcome to edit it with the updated reference.
2068:. If one counts the cascading effects of this, the GDP of Trivandrum would rank among the lowest in state. This is well illustrated by the fact that business goes down in Trivandrum district during government employee strikes
4333:. It was done to end an un-necessary conflict that doesn't really help anything, and move on. If it is your belief that sticking to your POV is the best for the article, all I would say is I acknowledge your right to do so.
1785:
I did not expect much to happen in discussion and I was proved correct on that. It is gratifying to see that wiki administrators have started looking into the problem. I am only hoping for an independent dispute resolution.
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located at Kochi. (It continues through even after its merger with BPCL in 2006 in lieu for similar arrangements with other oil marketing companies IOC, HPCL, etc. in many other states where the latter run the refinery.)
1920:
Kochi were growing at a smaller rate than this than that is a matter of grave study for state planning board, because Kochi the most industrialized area of the state. But such a thing was never heard of EVER. That is why
743:
Let me be more precise, you claim this article is about Kochi corporation, correct ? Is that is so then CIAL, FACT, HMT, Infopark, Refinery all are situated outside Kochi city. How did they find a place in this article ?
2916:. This would have the effect of wiping clean the most recent conflict which seems mainly to have been about image placement. I see no point in rewarding edit warring by letting either of the recent versions stand. See:
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page then it is a record in the history of mankind !! Wiki dispute resolution can relieve Kochi of such vandal generated "world records" and put back the proper reasonable, intelligible records that Kochi truly holds.
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Dear Dileep, you could be polite when talking to others here. Quoting distance from the capital is not a big mistake. It should be retained. Just for the sake of satisfying your pride or belief, it cannot be removed.
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The two references given for the statement "unlike other leading South Indian cities, Kochi has been slow to industrialise." Does not give ANY substantiation to that claim. The only thing I could find is in Ref 31
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Several South Indian cities are much slower in industrialization. For instance, other cities in Kerala are also "South Indian" cities - which as the GDP data shows were always slower than Kochi to industrialize
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Finally, regarding overtone, tone is something heavily dependent on viewpoint. So how does it feel if I say that it is your eagerness to keep Kochi in poor light ? Lets just not get into such subjective points.
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Yes, it is my intention to constantly monitor this article (and the associated ones), and keep it neat, clean, true and accurate. You should have already got an idea about my intentions by the few edits I did.
1410:: Added in Kerala article that the airport at kochi is the biggest airport in Kerala. Even though this statement is true, I could see the vested interests of the user to superlative anything related to Kochi.
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to breaking point. It would be better to source this information directly from Abraham's book but even better would be a quote directly from Gandhi himself in his collected works or his diary for example. A
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Samaleks, the link provided in the article(world gazeteer) is saying that the population of kochi city in 2009 is 254461....!!!! what is this? how this like blunder sites are added in article? please check
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This is much better tone. Now let us talk here and sort it out before you add or remove any thing in the article. It is already added in the demographics section. But, why you removed the suicidal rates ?
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FYI, There is no place for emotions like fear, love, pride, envy etc in an encyclopedia, and I am not driven by that. Concepts like fact, fairness, balance and verifiability are the driving force here.
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Now that both editors involved in the recent edit war have been established as using socks, I suggest we fall back to an earlier version of the article as it existed prior to the most recent edit war
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The economy section has the same full blown false statement repeated. It is not as though you did not notice it, you wanted to keep the false info as much as possible until administrators intervened.
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Sure Dileep, and thanks for the co-operation, rather than blind reverts. Please educate your fellow editors about "wiki style" of writing. We cannot push only positive things and assumptions here.
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It is a habit to freely copy from wiki and make minor changes without acknowledging. And wiki for that unfortunately is editable and vulnerable to manipulators like the one we see here !! I am sure
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I counted the greens on the navy course. It is 9 holes. CIAL opened with 9, but phase2 is in progress to make it full 18 holes, as ped the news items. Do you think it makes sense to add that info?
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While I would like to reserve my comments on the current status of the economy in Kochi, let me point out a couple of points which, among others, lead me to believe that Prathambu is editing the
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class article, whose status could be seriously damaged by such continuing acts of vandalism. To avoid such a turn of events, I hope all concerned will cease such activity. Thanks in advance! -
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Thus the above reference clearly proves that in 2006, Kochi contributed Rs.6900 crore (4500+2400) in commercial taxes making at least 70% of state's commercial tax revenue from the state. (
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stagnation is used in regards to low growth, or defined by a specific metric, I'm not certain makes this an issue worth fighting over. Kochi was poor, but now it is less poor and growing.
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The current status of the city according to the population is not Metropolitan city, since the population is less than 1 million. So, "Type" in the Infobox of the article should be City.
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The information I added about IT infrastructure is as follows - 8 of the 10 private IT SEZs sanctioned in Kerala are coming up in Kochi. That makes Kochi the focal point of investment in
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1689:"For decades the economy of the city was in shambles and therefore was in a sorry state. This economic stagnation contiued till 2003, when the newly formed gobal economy took shape".
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If you consider that as a weak argument, please provide your stronger arguments in favour of retaining it. Till now the only reason being offered is "there is no reason to remove".
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is a clearly defined term in terms of GDP growth. No only that the claim in economy page about stagnation had no reference in support of it, actually it contradicts available info.
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Dear Dileep, You have to Accept that Madras is a satellite town like Devanahalli, of Bangalore.Doesn't get it? I mean, the City of Cochin is merely a suburb of the oh mighty """"
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Dear Greengiant. Gandhiji has made the statement in a public meet about Kochi and its proposed harbour in 1925, when British Govt decided to construct a new large modern harbour.
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The demographics of Hyderbad is Hindus 45%, Muslims 40%, Others 15%. So, it is wrong to say that Kochi is the largest city in South India without a Hindu majority. Thank you, PKV
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Kochi is the corporation in kerala with highest population density. It is an encyclopedic fact and it is added to the article.Hope this sentence will not hurt anybody. regards..--
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Now, let me ask very politely. Could you please, if you wouldn't mind, provide a reason why it should be retained, when majority of the other city pages do not carry it? Thanks.
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we both agree. And whenever I do not have 8reference to support I withdrew my contribution. In contrast, your (and Samaleks) claim of "stagnation" is FALSE for which, you admit,
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Oil sales tax does count as contribution from Kochi to state exchequer. That is because all these oil marketing companies are all located at Kochi to take the supply from the
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I am a little bsy now, and will explain soon here, why the citations were removed. Let us sort it out. Also, I suggest after our mutual reviews, we will put the article for
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with all of the others deriving their name from the Indian city or they are minor. The only plausible alternative use is the former kingdom but that is better known as
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Isn't it better to have an image of CUSAT/Maharaja's College in educational section? These are the institutions that immediately come into mind when one hear of Kochi.
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is your real problem? I don't know what is the problem with it and why you fear. May be because of your POV. :). Anyway, it also serves the fact. ;) Happy editing :)
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show that Trivandrum districts ranks among the most backward in Kerala in terms of employment generation, despite the large scale government sector employment, while
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Thank you Chektomate. That is what exactly we need. Give proper substantiation for the actions, and defend them. I wish all the editors would follow your example.
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What statement is this? Very much idoiotic to be included in an encyclopedia. Let me ask my doubts. I request the "elited editors" to publish their thoughts too.
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also shows that per capita GDP at Kochi (Ernakulam) is 40% more than the state average. If all of this growth happened after 2003 as wrongly claimed by wikipedia
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reveals that over 70% of the IT exports from Kerala come from Trivandrum. I am sure that precludes the claim that Kochi is the focus of IT investments in Kerala.
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in Kochi? Because it does not exist. You know it and Samaleks know it, it just that you just want to carry as long as possible by conning administrators so that
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in IT infrastructure Kerala. This was un-encyclopedic claim, and an attempt to boost the city. Moreover, he added all the names of the SEZ in Kerala, including
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research paper puts Teri sands to be a grade of soil formed through the oxidisation of coastal aeolian dunes during arid climate of the Last Glacial Maxima.--
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Perhaps some deeper fallback is in order, I did not examine things prior to 6 March 2010. If others do not agree with this fallback, by all means change it.
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Added after reviewing all changes: I have restored two of your edits about citations, Checktomate. Could you please explain what was the problem with them?
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in English. The naming convention is fine for names where there is no primary topic and there is a probability of confusion, but in this case we should use
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district growing at more than 8% a year through out 1990s. You are claiming that Kochi city was going against the tendency in its suburbs and was facing an
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show that per capita GDP at Kochi (Ernakulam) is 40% more than the state average. If all of this growth happened after 2003 as wrongly claimed by wikipedia
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Hi Shekure, Couldnt find one in wiki commons. If you have a copyright free picture, please upload and release it under free license. We can use it here. --
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Is this so important to be published in the first paragraph itself? Is it such an important information like "Kochi is called the Queen of Arabian sea"?
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15:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC) Well if there is an agreement the this article could be deemed as the primary topic for the name "Kochi", it would do fine.
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Your claim about economic stagnation is not even true about Kerala. Kerala grew at an average of 6% through out 1990s. Check out planning board data.
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is collecting an estimated Rs.4500 crore in as commercial tax in 2006. This is the tax levied from the commercial establishments in the district and
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The comment about Hindu majority had been discussed before, but we need to look at it again. The data says Hindus 47%, Christians 35%, Muslims 17%.
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Agree with Swaroop. The city in India is clearly the primary use of Kochi. All other uses are either minor or derivative. This article should be at
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Thanks. Please read the article first. The figures are given for whole state. not for kochi alone.This suicide rate should be given in the article
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Total commercial tax revenue of the state of Kerala is more than Rs.10000 crore. It crossed the Rs.10000 crore mark this year for the first time.
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A recent addition to the article, was reverted. Here are the some points, as to why the Southern Naval Command (SNC) is relevant in this article:
1348:: Claimed that Vallarpadam(a proposed port in Kochi) will emerge as Indiaâs gateway. No where in the provided reference this claim was supported.
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for the Golf Courses are of Wikimapia, which is not a valid reference. The references to any wiki related projects are not valid in wiki. The
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have changed " unlike other South Indian cities " to " unlike other South Indian metros "? This is a page about the Kochi city; not its UA.
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or not. The said phrase doesn't serve the fact. It seem to serve your POV, and I feel you are confusing between the POV and fact there.
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while Ernakulam district was growing at 7% a year. If by any chance it is, please provide data as it is totally against common sense. (
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I can see where he says "the sea is the epitome of adventure" but how does that translate into Cochin being the epitome of adventure?
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I have added the citation for the Naval base golf course from the latest news piece from "The Hindu". Thank you for your help. --
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The SNC and it's associated entities, occupy a significant portion of Willingdon Island as well as Fort Cochin (INS Dronacharya).
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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pages is not the only place wiki will face this problem. But if only we could make a beginning against such vandalism.
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The picture used above the infobox on the page is very outdated. It would be nice if someone could upload a new one.--
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till you can provide a valid reference to support the claim. Hope, the edit war will come to an end now. Cheers, --
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degraded the image of the entire state. I will soon provide the citation on the 2009 ITES rankings. Thank you, --
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new ? My contributions are plain there, for everyone to see. Even you admit that
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This will be edited out soon, unless someone gives a good reason to retain it.
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I have copied and pasted lines from the three links you posted to make it easy.
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A military installation,such as SNC, makes Cochin a strategically relevant city.
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in a city. I agree with your feeling that it is difficult for you to understand
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unlike other leading South Indian cities, Kochi has been slow to industrialise
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Dear Hiberniantears, I am happy that you have pulled up by searching on google
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How do you know that Gandhi was "referring to the place Fort Kochi" when the
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As per Knowledge naming conventions on place names, the order is as follows:
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Let me again tell you, that the article is about the Kochi city; not the UA.
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is a stage where the growth hovers around a low 2-3%. For the district of
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do you have any evidence supporting your claim of "stagnation" in Kochi?
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By the way, who decided this is about Kochi city corporation ? You ?
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fudging, which I thought could be detected by anyone unrelated to
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the lede (IMO). And i don't see anything "idiotic" to be honest.
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the issue here. I look forward to an expert intervention through
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by you. Now, sorry to say that I am restoring the remark; but
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capital. I dont see any strong reason to change it. Cheers,--
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for "Kochi"+"stagnation". And exactly as I pointed out above
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refers to a near zero GDP growth rate, of less than 2-3%.
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Dear Dileepks69, The references you have provided in the
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I hope i will be answered by the intellectual editors.
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
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See the table below for the city population and OG area:
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Adding this in, possibly an error that went unnoticed. (
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and therefore should not be included in the article.
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Interesting advice. BTW, I did read your talk page.
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Inorder to end the edit war, I removed the disputed
269:(a Malayalam encyclopedia), Kochi was once known as
2262:until 2003 seems FALSE as per data 2002-2003 year.
1925:showing Kochi was facing a slow growth until 2003.
1372:: Again added superlative claims about Vallarpadam.
1269:I realize this is far from a scholarly source, but
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I tried to reach a consensus by stoping the reverts
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The economy of Cochin is linked to it in many ways.
1706:the bluff by the organized manipulators here like
1233:but a need to end "stagnation in infrastructure".
43:Old Harbour Hotel- 300 year old heritage building
609:Attributions-Share Alike Creative Commens license
3863:evidence for this statement then it falls under
3610:majority" is not accurate, and is confusing too.
2050:sector through the item "Public administration"
1907:, a GDP growth rate of less than 2-3% is called
1459:The references provided to support this were in
520:Knowledge:Naming conventions (settlements)#India
379:study on the soil? No further ideas on my part.
239:I do think the "go shree" thing is a Sanskritic
2380:cities, Kochi has been slow to industrialise".
2272:GDP for the year 2002-2003 for the district of
2265:GDP for the year 2002-2003 for the district of
1678:The first two are verbatim copy from wikipedia
1251:they spread false information here deliberately
1005:From the experience here, I suggest to approach
946:seem keen on inserting false claims even after
1962:not from public sector oil marketing companies
182:That puts it to rest, I think. Thanks Dab. --
2836:Gantlet removing a warning from his talk page
2521:please change the word to city corporation.--
1356:has made Kochi the focal point of investments
817:] insists on putting FALSE information about
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3328:Swaroop, I totally agree with you, the name
1451:. So, I advised to enter the details in the
2436:Knowledge:Featured articles/Cleanup listing
2139:( data is usually provided for district of
2107:Final word on "economic stagnation" dispute
1384:: Vallarpadam again became Indiaâs gateway.
1277:(though a Wiki copy, I think) article, but
862:, and trying to work it out there. Thanks.
2438:), or this article should be submitted to
1113:why is it becomes "glorification" only on
723:I do not require for this lecture on what
514:Can the Wikipedians will move the page to
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2642:Further more, we have seperate pages for
2281:GDP growth corrected for inflation - 6.8%
1964:. The reason is clear from the same news
1354:: He claimed that The IT SEZs coming up,
323:SNC existed for many decades in the city.
4329:The compromise was offered not to serve
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2084:Government's Economic Review for 2007-08
2061:Government's Economic Review for 2007-08
1930:Government's Economic Review for 2007-08
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537:I quote from the link you've mentioned:
273:(Cow's land), which was Sanskritised to
1977:included in the Rs.4500 crore mentioned
1253:to sketch a grim picture of the city. (
1089:So that's the first point of dispute -
904:inserted at two places in the article.
2324:All these data is for the district of
2078:is performs best on this criterion in
3209:is the default disambiguated title.)
2308:More data to be added soon. Thanks. (
1742:you spilled out here contain anything
953:After being issued a level 3 warning
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3900:The said statement may be removed.
3170:- A better title for the page move.
3058:The result of the move request was:
2654:. Hope this clarifies. Thank you, --
2434:Urgent cleanup is needed here, (see
2372:Precise statement in Economy section
2345:is removed from economy section too.
1806:class article with vested interests.
1079:"stagnation in infrastructure", and
4468:http://indiannavy.nic.in/kochi.html
4466:Anyway, here are other references:
3964:Persistent and insignificant issues
2350:Hope this is the consensus we reach
1471:More reverts to include the above:
1111:Thats the second point of dispute,
1091:is there or not a GDP data proving
406:WikiProject Dravidian civilizations
3590:Kochi is also the largest city in
3238:in Japan sufficiently notable? â
2759:Civic Administration & Economy
1878:mechanism here. As wiki policy on
1577:Too many reverts within short span
961:have desisted for a day . Another
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3412:- the Indian city is clearly the
3340:also in maps, it's only spelt as
3019:File:Chinese fishingnet kochi.jpg
1956:says that district administration
1154:, Please refrain from adding the
681:Not working: Page cannot be found
3226:Should the article be simply at
1975:which means oil sales tax is not
643:were removed from this section.
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363:that you added) on wikipedia. --
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3373:. -- 00:31, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
3272:in the United States, but then
2279:GDP growth (absolute) - 15.2Â %
2219:instead of arguing endlessly. (
1752:you don't have any reference!!
447:Of course Kerala is Dravidian.
3775:cursory search of Google books
3752:05:58, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
3723:05:53, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
3268:. There are many places named
3205:for much more; in particular,
2215:to substantiate your claim of
1992:contribution from Trivandrum.
1518:: The edit summary given was:
896:"Kochi experienced decades of
689:provide valid links in English
627:Tax data added in Economy page
247:etymology of the placename...
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3369:and the other uses listed at
3276:seems fine a name, so should
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2732:17:49, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
2717:10:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
2703:Educational Institution Image
1378:: Added again: IT SEZ details
902:from independence until 2003"
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671:23:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
621:12:23, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
541:Kochi shares its name with a
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3142:, this page should be named
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2698:10:03, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
2683:09:57, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
1754:Still you insert it back !!
1738:Rajith Mohan, does all that
1550:from the article( see here:
1221:as the so called "proof" of
1008:Knowledge:Dispute resolution
860:Knowledge:Dispute resolution
790:Read the article fully first
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3301:. Why shouldn't it be just
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3001:Nonexistent Image in "Name"
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1430:Economic stagnation reverts
1332:Attempt to glorify the city
1029:Article locked for one week
598:09:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
587:Request for new skyline pic
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1066:Those who claim "there is
879:status article. Cheers, --
148:there's no simple answer.
4276:Let me offer a compromise
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3633:11:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
3344:in Hepburn romanisation.
3070:Knowledge:Requested moves
3009:File:Kochi FishingNet.jpg
2386:Economic Review 2002-2003
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1903:As per this wiki page on
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1526:) to which Kochi belongs.
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1243:Administrator please note
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3573:Please do not modify it.
3264:is a proper name, as in
3050:Please do not modify it.
3013:) in the section called
2341:Same wrong statement on
2297:in the state of Kerala.
2250:I present the data from
1314:article as well, as the
1239:Third and most important
1217:is the article given by
71:Why not add them to the
4300:after the state capital
2390:Economic Review 2007-08
1455:and Kochi UA articles.
1302:I dont understand what
1229:this does not speak of
1188:with a proper reference
501:16:10, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
441:09:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
374:Geography/Climate: Teri
3883:Slow to Industrialize?
3850:IIIT copy of his works
3779:copy of Gandhi's works
3758:"Epitome of adventure"
3371:Kochi (disambiguation)
2295:highest per capita GDP
2199:district, I could see
993:to some extent, while
948:knowing it to be false
727:is. Lets be straight:
3491:Support move to Kochi
3195:it is still ambiguous
3191:Athens, United States
3136:Athens, United States
3112:place, state, country
2652:Corporation of Cochin
2269:. Rs. 10428.35 crore
2114:State planning board
2111:Dear Hiberniantears,
312:Souther Naval Command
279:Goshree-nagara-varnam
58:Wayfaringstranger1976
3523:Oppose move to Kochi
3150:. Yours faithfully,
3140:Kochi, Kerala, India
2276:. Rs. 9045.64 crore
2252:State Planning Board
2082:. Moreover the data
1214:'s bluff here. This
1210:It is easy to check
545:. That is why it is
120:Prosperous with cows
88:Sanskrit translation
4369:Article Improvement
3762:Arunvarmaother has
3114:. Examples include
2671:Urban Agglomeration
2606:Cheriyakadavu (OG)
2516:City or Corporation
2460:Population density.
2354:economic stagnation
2343:economic stagnation
2299:Economic stagnation
2285:The data also says
2260:Economic stagnation
2241:economic stagnation
2217:economic stagnation
2209:economic stagnation
2205:economic stagnation
2130:. Already the user
1909:economic stagnation
1905:economic stagnation
1868:economic stagnation
1773:economic stagnation
1759:economic stagnation
1620:16:30, 3 March 2009
1615:12:50, 3 March 2009
1610:10:03, 3 March 2009
1605:01:37, 3 March 2009
1600:13:10, 2 March 2009
1595:19:11, 1 March 2009
1590:19:02, 1 March 2009
1561:He then charged me(
1548:economic stagnation
1231:economic stagnation
1223:economic stagnation
1156:economic stagnation
1148:economic stagnation
1093:economic stagnation
1084:economic stagnation
1068:economic stagnation
1039:Request for Comment
938:!! The above users
936:economic stagnation
913:economic stagnation
906:Economic stagnation
899:economic stagnation
827:economic stagnation
819:economic stagnation
725:Economic stagnation
645:Economic stagnation
641:economic stagnation
522:) on this article.
507:Proposed moving to
267:Sarva-vijana-kosham
4478:. Have your pick.
3193:is not idiom, and
2584:Kedamangalam (OG)
2235:Data on GDP growth
2213:(Official website)
2116:(Official website)
1979:in the first news.
1928:The official data
1876:dispute resolution
1585:07:44 1 March 2009
1139:Cease the edit war
858:going directly to
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30:Heritage buildings
4353:comment added by
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4255:comment added by
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3907:comment added by
3865:original research
3750:
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3274:Salem, Tamil Nadu
3266:Salem, Tamil Nadu
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