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Kolarovo, Czechoslovakia (now modern Slovakia), they moved to Kladno because of work, but got back to Kollarovo when Kolo was only child. Sure in Kolarovo there is a minority of hungarians living in Slovakia. But what I know that Kolo never speaked that much hungarian language. He was a footballer therefore he had to move quite a lot from club to club. His children dont speak hungarian (likely they understand a bit). Only link to Austria was that he played in Gols, Austria at the end of his career. He bacame also coach/trainer there in the late stage. He never lived in Austria. He drove to each match/training from Bratislava in the morning and back in the evening (he died at car accicent on his way back home after last match of the spring part of the season). I can tell that his life was mainly joined with Slovan Bratislava. He liked Bratislava very much therefore he decided to live there with his family. Im still in touch with them. Kolo could speak absolutely perfect slovak language with no accent. I never heard him speaking hungarian. If he considered himself as slovak or hungarian? Dont know. We never talked about this and he hated political bullshits. He just loved football. He presented himself like 50/50 slovak/hungarian playing for Czechoslovak national team. He had czechoslovak citizenship and after break up he got slovak citizenship. He never had any relation to Hungary as a state/country. He really never dreamed about living in Hungary :).
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Hi guys, I knew Kolo quite well (his nickname). When he bought house in
Dubravka, Bratislava, Slovakia he bacame my neighbor together with his family. I know his wife Valika, his son Peter and dauhter Beata etc. Of course his origin is a big mixture. He was born in Kladno, Czechoslovakia (now modern
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first name koloman, this is a slovak name, kálman would be the hungarian variant, family name is gögh, that is german, he is born in kladno (czech/german?), i self wrote first, that he is hungarian from slovakia, but that is not ok, i have this information from a good friend from gögh. but without
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I really want to encourage a much stronger culture which says: it is better to have no information, than to have information like this, with no sources. Any editor who removes such things, and refuses to allow it back without an actual and appropriate source, should be the recipient of a
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11:03, 20 April 2007 (UTC) it is not question, if he was slovak or not, that is fact, question is if he was additionaly hungarian minotity, i say no sources, in czechoslovakian citizen= slovak or czech or something another, but czechoslovak nationality was not existent.
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No source from the three you listed say he is Slovak. After WWII Germans were expelled (also from Kladno) and some 70,000 Magyars from
Slovakia were forcibly sent to same territory, as they were victims of expulsion, too. Your attempts to whitewash history are LOL.
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First of all, you are not citing sources. Second, you was that one who firstly added to the article that he is
Hungarian. Third, therefore you are very likely schizofreniac. Fourth, you will be blocked again, if you will continue reverting.
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A kde je jediné slovo o tom, že to je Slovák. Přijdeš mi jako typický slovenský rasista, nemáš asi rád Maďary a když už je nějaký úspěšný, tak ho označíte za Slováka. LOL. Jak trapné. Stačí se podívat na jméno a fotku a hned ti doklapne. -
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