Talk:Kony 2012/Archive 1 - Knowledge (XXG)

1123:. By all means save the content locally (i.e. on your own computer), but wait until the video is talked about by multiple, independent, reputable (probably offline) sources on multiple separate occasions (as opposed to just a couple of paragraphs tucked away on page 36 of a midweek edition of a newspaper). Even if it's the number one trend on Twitter, has millions of Facebook Likes and a corresponding number of +1s, it doesn't count as notable until it's spread further than social media - if Mrs. X who's never used social media in her life and doesn't have friends / family that use social media has heard about it, then it 755:

site. If anything Kony should be the article of the day for a week to spread awareness. To delete this article is essentially telling those boys and girls, and their families, that we simply don't care, that their cause simply isn't important enough for Knowledge (XXG) to cover. Please, I a begging, pleading to leave this page up, if even for just a few months. We all need to unite around a cause and finally make a difference. Won't you come and join us, Knowledge (XXG)? —

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saturation. If you can prove its not notable that is fine, although it would appear that is becoming more difficult as time goes by. As for suggesting its merger into another article as it doesn't merit an article by itself is hardly inappropriate if that article is very much related. Perhaps a merger with

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yes this is absolutely the best way to handle this. It is likely some people may come to wiki to look for information about this. for the various policy reasons already stated by others, this is not notable enough yet and wiki isn't the place to promote it. Move the information the invisible children

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <it is on the topic of a social justice movement which could shape how people view 2012. Kony 2012 is a movement to stop war crimes in Africa by demanding the arrest of Joseph Kony. It has far reaching implications

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it is a movement which allows people to be aware of the movement in support of the arrest of Joseph Kony. As the leader of the LRA, Joseph Kony has committed crimes such as murder, slavery, abduction, and rape against

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because it simply requires expansion in order to explain the significant social/new media aspects of this campaign. This article has the propensity to become information, similarly to articles relating to Barack Obama's campaign for presidency (using social

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Just my tuppence worth, and please pardon my French, but fucking hell... Why are there so many contested deletions?! This article has potential. I don't think it's an advertisement in any way, shape or form, and I'm certain it meets the general notability guidelines. Again, just my tuppence worth,

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because as more people become aware of this article, It will quickly grow, and it is most definitely of utmost importance that this information, about such an important cause not be erased from one of the webs most visited

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because I am not affiliated with Invisible Children Inc., I simply saw the need for people to have a (although I admit, unpolished and vague) general idea about what Kony 2012 is. If I may, I request that the status of immediate deletion be removed and

1237:) reveals it's a very popular video with major news sources covering both the campaign, the video, and the organisation itself (Invisible Children, Inc.). There are plenty of Knowledge (XXG) articles on less "notable" subjects/events/places/etc. I strongly oppose the deletion of this article. 871:

OK. I get that you think this not notable. That is fine, I have no issue with you disagreeing with me. But I've asked you so many times now to be specific as to why its not notable and every time you've just said 'because it's not'. It has third party reference as well as its social network

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <this is a small step in getting kony famous. by making this wikipedia page where more and more people will be able to reach this page and learn about him and his evilness.:

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Do not delete this page. The subject is highly notable. Even if the page has problems, if it is deleted it will eventually have to be recreated, due to the subject's widespread interest. It would be better to keep the page and gradually fix any remaining

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <this cause needs to read anywhere possible and if Knowledge (XXG) can help continue the spread of information then it should do just that for the sake of human lives:

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because the Kony 2012 campaign and promotion thereof is an entity unto itself. The Knowledge (XXG) article on the campaign should be objective and informative, and should not be delete if it is just that.

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I don't know if anecdotal evidence from a user if useful here, but I got here by googling 'wikipedia Kony 2012', specifically because I was looking for a netural point of view article on the campaign, and I was satisfied with what I read.

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popular, the campaign is being widely covered in the news. There are a great deal of articles on Knowledge (XXG) documenting people/campaigns/events/etc. of less notability. For this reason, I strongly oppose the deletion of this

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because a organization such as wikipedia should understand and endorse movements like this just like the world supported the sopa and pipa movement.

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it's not the first article about a Youtube video. Why would you keep the article on "Charlie Bit my Finger" and delete that?

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many people of Africa. The Kony 2012 section allows for this movement against Kony to be visible, and as the leading "encyclopedia" of internet, it is an absolute necessity for the article to avoid deletion.

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It's so tempting to join in... This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it is important for the survival of humanity as we know it to let the world know the truth.

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it is a new cause that is gaining popularity and will quickly become very important requiring a wikipedia page. —

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The page in question describes something that currently does not have notability (as a stand-alone article), but may be more appropriate and informative as a section or subsection of the

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This article currently has many third party references, which make it conform to the notability guidelines, not just its social network popularity. Please see the reference section.

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it is important for the survival of humanity as we know it to let the world know the truth. —

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it is quite notable. It is all over social media at the moment, and is just spreading. —

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because <This is a movement. Knowledge (XXG) would be a fool to not be a part of it.: -->

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It's not notable for the many reasons stated. Knowledge (XXG) isn't a newspaper, nor should articles remain just because people feel strongly about it.

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Obviously an advertisement, and this thing hasn't even been around for very long. You can't just create a wiki page the second something goes viral.

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Over 7million views within hours of being uploaded. Plastered over every site I've been on in the last few hours, including Facebook. It's notable.

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Its just about meets the guidelines on notability as it has third party sources. However it should be included in the main article on

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Does the page on Kony not allow enough visibility and information on Kony? I mean, it is the second result when you google "Kony".

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This article is more than fit to stay on Knowledge (XXG), and we all know it. The pretentious middle-class Wikipedians need a slap.

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This is the wrong place to be talking about this. For the discussion of the deletion of the page please see

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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because its very important. —

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humbly ask that the community have a chance to expand it living up to Knowledge (XXG)'s high standards.

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No, but the 7,000,000 figure does lend to its notability. A quick Google News search for "Kony 2012" (

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Copying and pasting a hyperlink on every section to the rules doesn't make your anymore point valid.

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There are more than 20 mainstream news sources covering this now. Its notability is quite evident.

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Internet campaign backing the arrest of Ugandan military leader, Joseph Kony, becomes online hit

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This is a video on the Internet, not an event. Also someone's random essay has no bearing.—

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A redirect may also serve to discourage a re-creation of this page should it be deleted.

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Knowledge (XXG) is not a venue to promote a movement, no matter how altruistic it may be.

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Knowledge (XXG) is not a venue to promote a movement, no matter how altruistic it may be.

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Knowledge (XXG) is not a venue to promote a movement, no matter how altruistic it may be.

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Knowledge (XXG) is not a venue to promote a movement, no matter how altruistic it may be.

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Knowledge (XXG) is not a venue to promote a movement, no matter how altruistic it may be.

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Knowledge (XXG) is not a venue to promote a movement, no matter how altruistic it may be.

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Knowledge (XXG) is not a venue to promote a movement, no matter how altruistic it may be.

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Knowledge (XXG) is not a venue to promote a movement, no matter how altruistic it may be.

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Knowledge (XXG) is not a venue to promote a movement, no matter how altruistic it may be.

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It's amazing how many people still let their emotions sway their better judgement.

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Because it's not notable for inclusion at all and coming to this page instead of

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Stop Kony: Invisible Children’s ‘Kony 2012’ to Find Justice for Child Soldiers

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The faster that ugly deletion tag can be removed from the article the better!

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This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (your reason here) --

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Kony 2012: Invisible Children Documentary Sheds Light On Uganda Conflict

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she heard about it (i.e. gossip - no, national news bulletins - maybe).

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KONY 2012: Campaign shedding light on Uganda conflict an online success

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would be more suitable but either merger would make sense at this time.

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happened does not mean it will have a lasting impact. Knowledge (XXG)

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to request its inclusion on the other article is inappropriate.—

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as it fits best there as it is of relevance to that article.

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The whole point of Notability is that you create articles

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