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Include other stuff going on with raping and women. You could talk about the MeToo movement more for example. But from my opinion just putting the name of the celebrity will cause more disgust and less will to get informed about the issue. Cover it with something else and people will find out and get
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Chinese wiki. Our country is very strict with regard to sexual crimes. The incident caused an uproar in China. Whether the celebrity will enjoy special rights because of his nationality or influence is very important to everyone. Concerned about the issue, so
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The infobox at the top of the article had a "Participants" entry that identified "Kris Wu, Liu" as participants (with the "" referring to a footnote about the fact that Liu's given name was not provided). I don't think that makes much sense. There was no explanation of Liu's involvement as a
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unrelated political ideology. Rape cases happens in every single country every year and ideology typically has nothing to do with it. So I removed it as it was just diluting the blame away from the individual.
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more interested. It's good, the idea, but you should merge it with some other events. It's not just Kris, scandals in China/Korea/Japan between fans and celebrities are really popular. That would blow up.
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