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a greyish cast photo so plumage features appear poorly and the thumbnail looks blurred. Not so important, and this can be fixed by flipping, but both of the images are also facing the wrong direction. I disagree that it's so important to have a plain white background, rather than a good photograph that shows the plumage well. (There are few with a white background, so that doesn't leave many choices. At least there are some unlike with most species.) The old images were there for a reason, since they are terrific photos that have depth as well as capturing plumage. I'm rather biased toward Diliff's female, because of how well it shows the upperbody plumage, tail, and legs, and the spectacular detail. The background is blurred and contrasts with the bird, so I don't see what the issue is. I do agree the old male isn't the best (I think it just moved its feathers around, it's in breeding plumage). I suggest we use Diliff's female and find a third, better male photo. I've been listing some good images at
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though the plumage misrepresents the typical female much. I don't think the info-box image has to be the best available high-res image, it just has to be a clear thumbnail of what a typical bird looks like. I really don't like Diliff's female at thumbnail size, I find it has a peculiar artificial look which I think comes down to the wire behind it being out of focus when it ought not to be - it looks like the background was smeared to look out of focus to highlight the bird (maybe it wasn't edited but I think that's what puts me off it). It may be a good representation of the plumage and could be used as such elsewhere in the article. Perhaps what we should do is just put a single image of the male in the infobox as most other bird articles seem to do.
6380:. Though I don't like the low resolution and you might not like the backgrounds they look great in thumbnail and the birds contrast sufficiently. (And then Diliff's female.) When I'm saying it's a young bird, I'm talking about features like the bill and weak supercilium birders can recognise quickly. Also, if it is an immature rather than a young adult it's not necessarily a female (I still need to read up on this); juvenile and immature plumages are just entirely different things from adult plumages. The article needs to feature a mature female somewhere near the description, so I say we ought to have one in the taxobox. I guess just including a male in the taxobox would work in this regard, but that's an overreaction to your issues with Diliff's work. — 894:"Common bacterial pathogens of the House Sparrow include Salmonella, Escherichia coli, anthrax, ...": The first two of these are common pathogens in humans, so I think some more explanation of the pathology in sparrows in needed to avoid confusion by comparison. In humans E. coli can be a commensal, opportunistic pathogen, or an invasive pathogen. Anthrax is a very rare and potentially dangerous infection in humans. Apparently Anthrax is not dangerous to vultures; however, I doubt that anthrax is common in sparrows in the Western world, so I think that this detail should be expanded to explain more about where these anthrax bacteria are found. It might also be useful specify the species of Salmonella bacteria. 811:
Anderson 2006 through an interlibrary loan. This really would be the most reasonable way to go about it, and a good way to find which relatively new papers merit citation. I'll also try to get at the sources for Summers-Smith. So far I've only been able to do this for two papers: one was already cited (Vaurie 1949), the other was published by my state's Ornithologist's Union. Granted, I will not be able to dig up a huge amount of papers of importance, since most sources for Summers-Smith are obscure.
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redpoll), Plectrophenax nivalis (snow bunting) and Calcarius lapponicus (lapland longspur), as well as a shorter period for Quelea quelea (red-billed quelea) at 9.6 days. The article reports an 8-day-record for the sparrow-larks of genus Eremopterix, from subtropical Africa. Source: Lloyd P. 2004. Eight- to ten-day incubation and nestling periods among Eremopterix sparrow-larks. Ibis 146: 347–350.
456:). The sparrow's playful erotic intimacy with its mistress ('To whose seeking she often gives her first finger/And provokes sharp pecks') makes the poet envious. At the climax of its elegy he reproaches it for dying, and distressing her ('Now, by your deeds, my girl's/Little eyes are slightly swollen and red from weeping'). The diminutiveness of the sparrow, and the hugeness and eternity of the 2524: 6040: 5816: 5690: 5631: 5526: 5416: 5339: 5284: 5183: 5070: 4939: 4735: 4645: 4535: 4459: 4306: 4267: 4223: 4152: 4080: 4000: 3956: 3879: 3761: 3696: 3628: 3563: 3491: 3415: 3370: 3349: 3305: 3223: 3158: 3090: 3022: 2979: 2933: 2679: 2637: 208:, beginning to moult into adult plumage, so it's lost much of the underpart spotting, and a trace of red is just apparent at the top of the breast. The spotted upperparts and insectivore's bill rule out juvenile House Sparrow, which has a much thicker bill, and usually shows a pale supercilium. A nice photo, and a typical Robin exposed perch. 6226:, not the name of any one species, and in old classifications today's Passeridae was placed within Emberizidae. Most of the search results are people saying "the House Sparrow isn't actually a sparrow , but a weaver finch" based on the old classifications; a few have jumped from this to saying "Weaver Finch" is the correct name. — 6276:
representative image for the species that shows the characteristic features of the species in thumbnail. It doesn't have to look good at full resolution, it doesn't have to be photographically perfect, in fact it is usually closely cropped (beyond what is asthetically pleasing for a full scale image), and even a
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I can see why you want to find better ones, but these won't do in my opinion. The female you added is probably a younger adult, and it doesn't show the typical head plumage and dark bill of an adult, and the photo is poor at higher resolution than the thumbnail. The male is in non-breeding plumage in
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The longer the article, the less likely potential reviewers are to read it, other than those with a particular interest. As long as it's got enough content, it doesn't have to be the final word. You've covered parasites which is a favourite "what about...?, and if anything is raised at GAN (if you go
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I just came across with an ancient prescription (from Sri Lanka) that uses small amount of house sparrow's egg shell (Not the eggs, but just the shell of it) with many other medicines to produce a special, very famous, but rare type of a herbal oil (in Sinhala it is called Brahma Sarasvati Thailaya =
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I was also referring to some other sources, two of which I added, and one of which I forgot to cite (I just corrected my mistake). But no, I can't find any sources that agree with Cornell. To take one instance, the date and location of introduction: Cornell and the bluebird people say 1853, Brooklyn,
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On a recent visit to the UK It seemed to me that house sparrow numbers have recovered substantially. Three years earlier they were almost totally absent from the area I was staying (London SE20), but this year they seem plentiful. They also seem to be more slender than they were. This enables them
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Some people will only see the images in the taxobox, so I'd prefer keeping a female there. Indeed it might be better to have a less representative one (and add a mature female in breeding plumage below), or to have a poor photo. So I'd rather keep the current photo (it needs to be flipped, and is it
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The expression "the sparrow family Passeridae" can easily be construed incorrectly, insofar as Passeridae is only one of at least two families of birds that are commonly called sparrows. There are Emberizidae, "New World sparrows," and Passeridae, "Old World sparrows." Neither is THE sparrow-family.
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article, and some other sources say 1852, Central Park, by the park's commissioners, for decoration, agreeing with Summers-Smith. As for the reliability of Summers-Smith, I was going to drop a note about this at your talk page, but I'll put it here instead. First, let me establish that Summers-Smith
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I had one, it's unbelievable but staying in the balcony, as I gave food to the birds, it's parents found it as it was noisy, came and helped it constantly. At first it looked hopeless, but in a few days it was able to eat on it's own, was afraid and hard to catch, eventually it was gone after making
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which is on a good angle, shows plumage clearly, and as you say looks great in thumbnail :-). I obviously prefer the two images that I proposed, which no one else has expressed a problem with, but if there are issues with the representativeness of the female image, I would be willing to accept the
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Most of your criteria are sound, but prioritising a clear background severely limits selection. You may have found the only two decent photos with white backgrounds. As long as photos do everything a taxobox image needs to do, and the background contrasts, why does it matter? High-resolution images
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Sparrow is pretty commonly used to mean just Passeridae. To most people worldwide, a sparrow is some member of the family. With American sparrows, not all are related (or in Emberizidae), and Emberizidae also includes the buntings and other birds. But I do agree the name doesn't unambiguously refer
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Casliber's articles also use this, I pointed out. The convert template also needs a lot of text to abbreviate and round. For the issue of fractions, the editing toolbar gives these, so I'd assume they are preferred. The fraction template looks rather strange to me (may be browser or somewhat), with
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I have put all these together, there is no reason to select just one or two to put in the introduction, either all deserve to be there, or none, without favouritism. As they are minor trivia, none would be better. Also etymology and alternative names are not aspects of scientific taxonomy so don't
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I really don't think Diliff's photo is edited that much, and it's a perfectly normal, commonplace photograph. It was taken at a castle, so the background probably was just too far away to be in focus. You seem to have an issue nobody else has. We have plenty of decent photographs, so we should be
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My top priority is plumage, and these images aren't typical, or great at showing plumage. I'd really like a mature female—the article needs to illustrate one somewhere near the top, and I'd rather not have some explainer of why the taxobox female is different from mature adults. I'm not even 100%
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Not sure it's very common anymore, though it certainly was for a while. It's certainly not something I've heard much through the southern/eastern/midwestern US in the past three or four decades; when I did hear it, it was typically when I was a kid listening to the "old-timers". And that's been
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The name English Sparrow probably deserves to be put in the lead, as does Indian Sparrow, as it is the only alternative name given in the Handbook of the Birds of the World, and notable as it is used for a number of species often considered separate. There is a difference between local or dialect
1102:(Note: the quoted text has a southern-hemisphere context.) I haven't researched this, but it makes sense for animals of the same species in warmer climates to have a tendency for smaller bodies; presumably the smaller body gives a greater surface area to volume ratio which helps dissipate heat. -- 810:
in Clement et al. is Summers-Smith. For this reason I'll try to replace cits (not only here, but also at other sparrow articles) to books like Clement et al. with those to Summers-Smith. This may mean over-reliance on Summers-Smith, a problem I'm preparing to deal with. Firstly I'll try to borrow
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Numbers have plummeted in eastern Australia too it seems. There is a theory going around that this cause by benzine (a carcinogen) which is high in our unleaded petrol exhausts and the birds have developed cancers. Mind you numbers of other birds espeically smaller ones have plummeted too whereas
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I looked far and wide and found a four on flickr and picasa that were good profiles, but none were freely licensed and not sufficiently good enough to pursue a change of license. If the female one here is just a juvenile, I wouldn't have a problem just labeling it "Juveile female", it's not as
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I suppose you are mostly right in your last comments. However, in my personal experience "English Sparrow" and "spatzie" are in very common use. I haven't been able to find any discussion of these names in books, since of course names are usually taken for granted, but I'll keep looking. Indian
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This needs clarification because it is ambiguous. The House Sparrow has been widely introduced into the southern hemisphere; does this mean that introduced house sparrows in the southern hemisphere are smaller than northern-hemisphere house sparrows? Or does this size variation occur within its
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I have been trying to find better taxobox images. The male image, while photographically great, depicts a bird with non typical plumage on its back (molting?), and the female bird image looks awkward as a thumbnail and has a distracting background. I searched all available images on commons
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Hi, About the "shortest incubation period record". House sparrows are comparable to other passerines in this respect, and theirs is not the shortest incubation period. According to a 2004 publication, equally short incubation periods (10 days) have been recorded for Carduelis flammea (common
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We must have more sparrow images than most other birds, pity there are so few great images. My criteria for taxo box images is perhaps different from others: This is a thumbnail image as part of an information box, I don't see it as the 'lead' image or most important image, it is just a
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Does this species really warrant being in the category Endangered Species? You'd be hard pressed to find many species that aren't endangered somewhere in the world. Shouldn't the category endangered species be for ones listed as endangered of extinction as a species, rather than a
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zoological illustration may be better than a photo to illustrate the subject. The 'pedia page needs to stand alone, if you want a high-res image displaying the plumage (or anything else), put it on the page at high-res, I often feel that articles need more than little thumbnails
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I usually don't like photographs that look artificial and divorce the subject from its surroundings, but for the taxobox image I go the other way and prefer to have an image with a clear background, and would even accept cutting the subject out of a scene and giving it a blank
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names, and more widespread names also used in bird books and so on, and common practice in bird articles is to place the latter in the lead, and the former in the text. I think the etymology should be part of the taxonomy section, as is done with most bird featured articles (
472:’ ('He now goes on a journey through that gloomy place,/From where they say no one returns'). Note how the sparrow's hopping is represented metrically. The bird is also alluded to in the line "He who lives by the stick, dies by the stick" in James Wilson's "The Stick Finch". 333:
Under climatic pressures etc, the House Sparrow in North America is developing intersting adaptive forms .... and anyway, they are so well established by now that they area antaive species, albeit one of recent arrival. Interesting topic to keep an eye on.
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The map we have looks fine, comparing it to the maps in the sources I used, but the Oiseaux.net one is crazily inaccurate, besides going by countries. I've fixed the egg thing, but workers like Summers-Smith say they doubt House Sparrows can actually
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Yes, lots, in my opinion, though probably not that much before GAN (rather than FAC). I think the main things are the description (not that much is said about plumage patterns etc.), and some bits of behaviour (reproduction basically stops at eggs).
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I think Diliff's female looks odd at thumbnail, perhaps it is the angle, but I find something discordant about it. If there are to be two images in the taxo box, I think they need to match, similar stance, similar background, similar orientation.
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I think it needs a little more detail on plumage—there's only one sentence on females. As for, FAC, I'd like it to have some detail on evolutionary history and see if I can improve the behaviour section further, but I suppose I could do this after.
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I'm not sure which species it is that is consumed, but I'm assuming it's House Sparrow since they are fairly commonplace. This occurs in China and Japan, but I don't want to put anything in the articles without knowing for sure which species it is.
2050:. A lot of local people there often mistaken it for a "maya" nowadays. They're found in mainly Luzon, upper part of the country. Can someone please upload a newer picture showing a more accurate distribution of the bird around the world? Thanks. 702:
The statements made here, and to a greater extent those at the page in question, are not supported by any of other sources used for improving this page, and are misplaced, so I removed this here. I am also not sure this is a reliable source. See
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I'm slightly inclined to have "English Sparrow" and few other of the more common ones in the lead, but don't feel strongly so. I don't see the need for a naming section; it seems that at least for this species names fit into a taxonomy section.
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A few days ago I deleted the statement that Passeridae is related to "the Weaver Finch Family". There was no verification, and as far as I know and other Knowledge (XXG) pages tell, this is not believed to be true. In any case this belongs
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This article mentions that the bird reach most of its present range via human introduction (often on purpose). Yet it also says that the bird is widely though of a pest. So why was it introduced in the first place. Needs clarification.
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being shaded in at least dark or light green color? I was born in that country and I recall 10 years ago seeing a lot of them living and nesting around many places in the country. That's the most common bird in our country right after the
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This is just me, but I don't think it should even be listed as Lower Risk, my reason being that the article says that there are over 400 million of these birds in the U.S. That's nearly two birds for every single person in the country. -
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Well, leave as is for the time being, and see if anyone complains. We can deal with it then if necessary. I've not checked, but the other reason that we sometimes get strings of refs is because there are multiple refs for the same fact.
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I still think description should be improved—it's just not that great—, and I'll have to make the small fixes (like proper citations for the HBV) needed under the good article criteria. Almost there, and I should have time soon.
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an adult and a female, I need to read up on this. I suggest bringing back Diliff's, so are there any other images you considered, or do you have any suggestions for alternatives? The male works, but I'll look for a better one.
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new born mice but the sentence as it stands sounds rather ridiculous. They certainly couldn't tackle the adults of any of these animals. Also the video file of a male calling doesn't seem to play although the others work fine.
2616:: Don't you think the article name 'House Sparrow' should be 'House sparrow' as per WP:FNAME and WP:MAMMAL? Could you rename it (move it)? Also change the words 'House Sparrow' to 'house sparrow' in the rest of the article. 1304:)", and the index includes 'Ceylon House Sparrow' and 'Indian House Sparrow', but not 'Indian Sparrow'. Also no mention of 'English Sparrow' there; this is very much an obsolete / archaic term, dropped by the AOU in 1957 ( 3865:—its description is the species description, which is already mentioned. It could say "Linnaeus, 1758", but I think putting its nominate status upfront is good too and this certainly needs to be stated and made clear. — 2299:
there first) or FAC, you can sort it then. There is bound to be something we haven't thought of, but we can't anticipate everything. Anyway, you're the lead editor, so it's unlikely to be nominated without your say-so.
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native range? If this size variation is within its native range in the northern hemisphere, this must be stated; if it is specific to introduced house sparrows in the southern hemisphere this needs to be stated too. --
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It says in the "Feeding" section that House Sparrows eat lizards, frogs and mice - is someone confusing them with the Sparrow Hawk maybe? I can see them eating newly metamorphosed frogs, newly hatched lizards and
1358:-group birds seem like a different species (I'll cite some Central Asian bird guides for the name). In consideration my opinion is that it is justified to not include, or include, alternative names in the lead. — 1745:
Re your last edits: Personally, I prefer using fractions for inches—I don't think in terms of decimals for inches, and I think most Old English users are similar—, and not always using the convert template, as
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Readers may want to read the description of the animal prior to reading more in-depth information about its etymology, taxonomy and subspecies information. I prefer the section order the way it currently is.
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There are some more sections which I intend to delete or rewrite before I begin making some substantial additions to this page. If I remove them I'll put them here. Innotata 16:46, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
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This is discussed elsewhere in the section. House Sparrows are found in both the northern and southern hemispheres, and the tropics, so reasonably covering the timing of breeding would be very lengthy.
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I will be having more comments soon, after I read further. Fix these issues till then. I like this article, I will be patient until it becomes GA. Contact me if you want to on my talkpage or here.--
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I'm from a German-American town in the Midwest and we call them spatzies out here so much that no one knows their real name-- so yes, the term is still in everyday use, at least in this community.
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belong in that section. I'd suggest the whole etymology section (being low importance) should go lower on the page, in its current position it looks odd interrupting the taxonomy and subspecies. -
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This was added by another user after a North American source, referring to the evolutionary/environmental change in the House Sparrow: I would have probably used "tropical", but latitude is best. —
518:, but the erotic element is more direct: 'And on me it wolde lepe/Whan I was aslepe,/And his fethers shake,/Wherewith he wolde make/Me often for to wake/And for to take him in/Upon my naked skyn'. 119:
to feed from bird feeders which were originally designed to exclude sparrows. Here in Australia they seem much larger than their UK counterparts despite food shortages caused by prolonged drought.
4350:. Does this bird breed round the year? Or does it have any particular breeding season? According to it, as soon as its egg hatches, the sparrow again mates. Is my inference correct? Else clarify. 1200:, surely an accurate source. For some examples of inaccuracies, the Oiseaux.net map shows the House Sparrow occurring in Indonesia, where it does not occur, and omits South Africa and Pakistan. — 90:
The unleaded petrol theory seems unlikely as one would expect drops in its population everywhere that has introduced unleaded petrol, yet the areas of decline don't seem to follow this pattern.
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In Feeding, first write the part about their diet (which you have presently in the last paragraph), because the reader shall like to know about its diet first, not the ways the bird obtains it.
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I thought Lockwood looked like quite a good source, but I saw it recently, and found that it is alphabetical by each name, so any dialect names not starting with "sp-" might not be included. —
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Yes, and my experience is similar. But I can't find reliable sources to state that the names are rather commonly used, and it is unclear which if any alternative names belong in the lead. —
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There is a tendency for birds to become larger with increasing latitude, the southern subspecies being larger than those further north the exception being the Tasmanian form which is small.
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Personal experience doesn't really count for anything on Knowledge (XXG) (except things to find citations for etc.), but I've heard alternative names a lot, rather than not hearing them. —
647:." There is not enough space on Knowledge (XXG) bird pages for every slang or highly regional term that exists. I could find no appropriate places in the text for this so I moved it here. 1145:, serious, we can find a very different map. I don't have any bibliography on this and if someone can bring something new to understand where the problem is, it would be appreciated! 1699:
You're right, this has been fixed. An easier way to think of the size of a House Sparrow's nest is the size of a standard association football ball, which probably ought to added. —
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Did you check? I can't find anything which claims the House Sparrow (also known as the English Sparrow) eats mice or lizards, Expect for this unique wikipedia article, furthermore
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It's OK for the map, thanks! For clutches, do you mean that 6 could be the higher number of chicks (i.e. adults cannot ley more than 6 eggs), and that eggs could be more numerous?
775:(from which the information was taken for the article)? Your comment above (about the Sialis page) was "I'm not sure this is a reliable source." BNA is certainly very reliable! 6074:
Great improvements! Again sorry for a few vague issues I raised. I think this GA review will end soon, once the remaining issues in 'Behavior' are resolved. Else is quite fine! --
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This isn't good style, as the MoS says: "Comparable quantities should be all spelled out or all figures: we may write either 5 cats and 32 dogs or five cats and thirty-two dogs" —
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This isn't a reason for information on their current or previous rarity in W Europe to slowly disappear. Can somebody bring this info back? Innotata 18:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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is at the lower end of the stated nest range - 210-200mm so I'm not sure the comparison is that useful. Also does 200x300 imply unequal axes or did the writer mean 200-300mm? --
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Thanks for finding the "spatzie" ref. As for English Sparrow, yes, I saw that, but I'd like to find something that could establish that English Sparrow is a common name today. —
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Other than that, unless someone has relevant content, it looks to me as if its just copyediting, and checking refs and other formatting stuff for consistency so they get past
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In Australia I have only ever heard them called house sparrows, and had not seen any other names until the discussion on this birding archive last year, so I think better in
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The formation of a pair and the bond between the two birds is tied to the holding of a nest site, though paired House Sparrows can recognise each other away from the nest.
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I think it would be worth adding a brief description of the transitional appearances between juvenile and adults. There are some photographs of males to illustrate this.
4039:'Spread' doesn't seem to fit here, why not write 'Where introduced, it can extend its range quickly, sometimes at a rate of over 230 kilometres (140 mi) per year.' ? -- 2919:
The range map legend has already been added (and corrected from your version), I don't think the synonymy is needed and it'll look bad to show two "synonyms" labels. —
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It's good to keep this consistent in one version of English, but I'm not sure there's a difference (or one of style) here, or anything wrong about either phrasing. —
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I don't see what's confusing; your particular phrasing is too vague, suggesting House Sparrows are killed more often on European roads than elsewhere or something. —
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It still is not a good description of the appearance of the House Sparrow, most of it is on less important topics, and as I said there are some small fixes needed. —
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Reply to the other comments - under each one - whether you agree or disagree about it. You can delete what you don't think right, I am not so knowledgeable! :) --
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No offense intended, but why is an older British book considered more reliable with regards American introductions than the online version of the highly-regarded
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Some have died out (there are no House Sparrows in Greenland); others have been of limited success, which I take to be another way of saying failing to thrive.
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It starts with the main items of House Sparrow diets, and goes in depth (for example on preferred seeds) on those before discussing (secondary) animal items.
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meaning "sparrow". And if you put "English Sparrow" into Google search, and select for books, you'll find dozens and dozens and dozens of examples using it.
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Content looks really comprehensive, I looked at another parasite book, nothing worth adding from that. I was surprised that this wasn't already at least GA
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To me it sounds like an extraordinary claim to say that Anthrax is a common pathogen in sparrows. Where is the evidence? What harm does it do to sparrows.
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is often said to be the correct name. This can easily be confirmed with an Internet search using both names together: "House sparrow" "weaver finch".
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The speciesbox seems long. Due to the synonyms. No need to delete them, use the text I have used in the example on the right. (I've used taxobox here.)
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I've just been removing some sections of the text that don't really belong here. These edits may be disapproved of, so I'll explain my rationale here:
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I'm sure the source I used (Anderson) says House Sparrows eat mice (not uncommonly, I believe it said), I just don't recall which species and where. —
687:. The mistake was realized after they were well established and by 1883 they were already considered pests and their introduction a disaster.<ref 2423:
The current format is consistent and useful, it'd be a lot of work to change it to a different such system, and I have no idea why it's necessary. —
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but also through natural dispersal and shipborne travel. It is quite successful, due to its adaptability and ability to easily co-exist with humans.
6222:"Weaver Finch" isn't an old or commonly used name for the House Sparrow, and I think it's just an error. It's a common name for members of the 2232:
Mainly because this looks really close to GA status, and it'd be good to knock over a few of these, and input seems to be variable at present.
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Yet another date for introduction: 1850, Brooklyn, online, and in the AOU checklist. I think that the currently given dates are right, though.
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Thanks for pointing this out. I haven't really worked on the description section yet; I'd like to get the behaviour section somewhere first. —
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is known as goddess of wisdom and learning. She is considered as the personification of all knowledge arts, science, creafts and all skills.
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Per the information above, the following changes have been made to the article, along with some changes that were not made and rationale why:
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Can anybody confirm if the following is a young/female House Sparrow? I'm willing to license it under cc-by-sa if Knowledge (XXG) wants it.
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Spadger is in here. I've heard "English Sparrow" a lot, but I'll just cite some Google Books sources as you suggested, at least for now. —
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in the late 19th century. They were introduced independently in a number of American cities in the years between 1850 and 1875 to control
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I've gathered cite him for biology and the morphological classification. Importantly, the only important source mentioned for the genus
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If the breeding time varies geographically, just mention there, it must be in 'Breeding'. I believe this issue will be resolved then.--
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Altered a little, I suppose "pest" is vague but a threat to native birds is not, but we could instead say it is considered a threat. —
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Also mention the genus and link it in the first line. I see you have already linked it afterwards in lead, just do not keep the link.
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No, there's not consensus for universal use of sentence case, and right now bird articles are continuing to be uniform in title case.
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After reading some books illustrating females by birds with very dark bills, I'm pretty uncomfortable with keeping the current image.
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I'm from Southern Illinois, originally. Down in that neck of the woods, the English House Sparrow is primarily called a "spatsie"
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Yes, sparrows eat mice—house mice, in India, if I remember correctly (I can check). The video of the male calling works for me. —
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I'll try and add a bit and review the article, and nominate at GAN it next week. Might hold off on FAC nonetheless though. —
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Really? Did the writer of that mean 200 x 300 mm (20 x 30 cm)? 200 x 300cm (2m x 3m) would seem large for almost any bird!
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brightened too much?). But I still haven't seen enough to justify removing Diliff's photo, and entirely disagree on it. —
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in the common sense used in the article. It makes more sense to me to link at the common name, which is mentioned first.
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authority. Every book (with serious citations) on the matter cites him intensely. All the genetic studies of the genus
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This could be in the lead if it's not, but it will really be out of place in discussions of courtship and timing etc.
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book (American Regional Dialects: A Word Geography, by Craig M. Carver), "spatzie" is a regional word from the German
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The House Sparrow is also a common victim of roadkill; on European roads, it is the bird most frequently found dead.
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The latter part seems a bit confusing, I suggest 'the bird is most frequently killed on European roads' or such.--
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What about sparrows who fall out of nests and are nurtured by humans? What is the probability of their survival?
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I don't see how this is unclear: A House Sparrow born in one breeding season may breed in the following one.
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is the breeding season? Just mention if it can breed any time in the year or is there any particular time.--
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How many eggs are laid at a time? Though mentioned in 'Eggs and young', just give a rough idea of it here.
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Hi! I shall review this article. Looks well-written, rather interesting! Here are my preliminary comments:
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By what means can they recognize each other away from the nest? Also, write 'recognise' ans 'recognize'.
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are important, and Knowledge (XXG) articles really aren't in isolation, but that isn't a big issue here.
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Added "around the nest", since I wouldn't be confident adding further detail without finding a source. —
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A few introductions have died out or been of limited success, such as those to Greenland and Cape Verde.
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Proliferate isn't good since this is specifically moving into more areas. What exactly is the problem?
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It's not good style for this to be done throughout an article, with only vaguely similar quantities. —
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Where introduced, it can spread quickly, sometimes at a rate of over 230 kilometres (140 mi) per year.
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I recall "spadger" as another colloquial name too. It was recently discussed on a birding list I'm on.
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more and more efforts of flying. It survived, later started coming in the balcony looking for food.
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Okay, thanks you so much! By the way, for the Oiseaux.net map, it would be fix quite soon. Regards,
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Though there is a link to helpers, could you very briefly say how they help in the mating process?
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Not sure and don't care myself about this; I think this started with nearly all countries linked. —
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Here these are adjectives (or whatever you call it) rather than nouns, so hyphens should be used. —
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See below, and I'm not sure the two remaining are notable—their describing a taxon is not enough. —
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I mean large numbers of eggs probably are the result of females dumping in other females' nests. —
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The most important thing to do is to provide a much more detailed account of anthrax in sparrows.
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Smith (1786) p. 1; Jones (1787) p. 21; Bloggs (1986) p. 100; Davis (2012) p. 123 </ref: -->
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That's not specifically stated in the sources (which mention this in passing) I can look at. —
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I can't find any details, I'll probably need to look at Pinowski, which could take a while. —
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Can you mention how long the copulation usually is? How many ejaculatory thrusts are there?
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Actually I wish to have it mentioned in the line how it is decided which male shall mate. --
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Would you mind suggesting one soon, or can I restore Diliff's image, at least temporarily?
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Many birds do not find a nest and a mate, and instead may serve as helpers for mated pairs
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I couuld provide a sh*tload of material on the sparrow in Australia. Is this of interest.
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The large North American population is descended from birds deliberately imported from
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See the sources I added in distribution. This also does not agree with Summers-Smith.
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You don't link other countries, then why Iran? Better not link it, it is not needed.
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I think it is time to make the most widely distributed wild bird in the world an FA.
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This is all very interesting, but belongs in a more general article about sparrows.
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Can you explain briefly, say in a line, what these acts are? Just give an example.
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Are some wandering sea birds that fly all over the oceans more widely distributed?
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Just to think about: The first photo used in this article would be the subspecies
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Probably by plumage and body proportions, will try to check. The article uses BE.
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says not to use unicode fractions like '½'. If you want fractions you should use
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So what is your decision, do you apply this template? As well as range map's? --
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The one that's paired and is building a nest with the female is what I meant. —
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The article currently only has adult Robins, so this would be a useful addition
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In many parts of the world it has become a pest, and a threat to native birds.
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And really, this is an aspect of House Sparrows' relationship with humans. —
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in the taxobox and the best available female image in the article body. --
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It's not the dominant male, it's the male mated to the female in question.
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Then let this be uniform in the whole article-either numbers or words.--
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During bouts of copulation, there are multiple mountings, will clarify.
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No, it isn't the best organisation of the existing text to do so now. —
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To be clearer, not sure this is easy to find or even recorded at all. —
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Thanks Colleen, I should have spotted that myself, image removed now
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Oh, an other weird thing : clutches of six eggs have been recorded,
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Wait! I haven't even started working on the behaviour section yet. —
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I think that's too long of a first sentence, they should be short.
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had fixed it, let it be as it is. Where to see above, you mean? --
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This description is 610 words. I happened by the featured article
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something that amazingly increase the brain & memory power)..
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larger birds like Sulphur-crested Cockatoos seem to be thriving.
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I posted my problems those of these changes I reverted, above. —
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If these are all the issues, looks like everything's covered. —
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the numbers in the fraction the same size as usual numbers. —
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http://www.socalbluebirds.org/docs/Minutes-SCBC%204_10_10.pdf
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Nest typically have external dimensions of 200 × 300 cm
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I think it better if you mentioned Linnaeus described
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Other males usually do not copulate with the female
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Well, if they are uniform, then it is good. -- 1586:so Knowledge (XXG) doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! 1061:I'll clarify this, by using latitude instead. — 4014:Can we have a better word than 'spread' here? 3538:Make it 'colored' and preferably pale-colored. 639:communities, it is usually referred to as the 6498: 3549:is British English, which the article uses, — 8: 5733:I don't know what you mean by BE/AE issue.-- 2098:House Sparrow is collaboration for July 2012 4802:, not sure it's in the sources I've seen. — 3934:Done, don't think it matters much though. — 3536:Most Passer species are dull-coloured birds 190:http://www.steinsky.me.uk/Image:bird_02.jpg 5029:If not known, mention this is not known.-- 2695: 2512: 1738:, and the football mention, I believe, in 1141:What specialists think about this map? On 6262:User:Innotata/Passer/House Sparrow images 5711:This is fine too, is this a BE/AE issue? 1339:in the title, translates it as 'spuggy'. 1310:The Birds of British Columbia: Passerines 689:"House Sparrow History" by E.A. Zimmerman 464:that is typical of the mock elegy form: ‘ 6416:there are a number of other good choices 3830:and when, though it is in the line. 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You get it? -- 470:illuc unde negant redire quemquam 466:qui nunc it per iter tenebricosum 452:Lugete, o Veneres Cupidinesque... 6264:, feel free to add more there. — 6154:The discussion above is closed. 6038: 5814: 5688: 5629: 5524: 5414: 5337: 5282: 5181: 5068: 4937: 4733: 4643: 4533: 4457: 4304: 4265: 4221: 4150: 4078: 3998: 3954: 3877: 3861:This is explained by it being a 3759: 3694: 3626: 3561: 3489: 3413: 3368: 3347: 3303: 3221: 3156: 3088: 3020: 2977: 2931: 2677: 2635: 2394:Jones (1787) p. 21 </ref: --> 1773:Knowledge (XXG):MOSNUM#Fractions 1614: 1197:Handbuch der Vögel Mitteleuropas 1194:The current map is based on the 705:American Acclimatization Society 440:Passer, deliciae meae puellae... 5940:– Added to lead: The animal's 3097:. 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Talk:House sparrow
archive
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Sabine's Sunbird
MPF
Draconiator
58.107.76.139
13:22, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
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16:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Bebofpenge
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02:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
unsigned
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17:36, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
http://www.steinsky.me.uk/Image:bird_02.jpg
Joe D
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02:21, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
European Robin
jimfbleak
08:07, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

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