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Not sure. The current one is simple and easy to understand, but gives a false impression about the size of the cave system. The other one would deliver more information, and provide a realistic picture. And it includes the location of the other chamber. I would thus argue for the other one, but
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The shrinking of teeth in Homo compared to other apes is typically correlated with the consumption of softer foods, either by gathering softer food or by cooking it. The sharpening of teeth in Homo is typically explained by the selection of tougher foods, such as plant and muscle
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That sentence is too far away. Who can remember that it said "a single individual"? Furthermore it is not apparent to the lay reader that size is estimated based on these two vertebrae. Maybe "if the only individual that preserves parts of the spine is representative"?
238:– This needs to be clearer I think. "Despite this", despite what? Maybe "Despite this exceptionally high number of specimens"? The average reader will not know that "15 different individuals" is a high number compared to most other Homo species. 486:, and the chain goes on. This casts doubt on this notion of bigger is better basically, but the source doesn't actually so all that detail, it just says this changes everything without specifying specifically what everything is 742:
Weird, I thought that modern humans always have a metacone, for example? What about saying "high frequency of presence of main cusps" or "do develop main cusps more frequently"? The current wording is not clear enough imo.
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What about "The persistence of small-brained humans for so long in the midst of bigger-brained contemporaries revises the previous conception that a larger brain would necessarily lead to an evolutionary advantage"?
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because big brain = smarter = better, so "The persistence of small-brained humans for so long in the midst of bigger-brained contemporaries revises previous conceptions of human evolution". I suppose for example,
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and have a high frequency of main cusps, namely the metacone (midline on the tongue-side) and hypocone (to the right on the lip-side) on the 2nd and 3rd molars, and a Y-shaped hypoconulid
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The thumb had a well-developed metacarpal bone, which is used in holding and manipulating large objects, and strong crests to support its opponens pollicis muscle
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Overall, H. naledi appear to have been small-bodied compared to other Homo, though it is unclear if this single specimen is representative of the species.
687:– terms like "right" and "left" make no sense here. We don't know if the tooth we need to imagine here is on the left or on the right side of the jaw! 835:"Concerning the spinal cord, only the 10th and 11th thoracic vertebrae (in the chest region) are preserved from presumably a single individual" 156: 126: 791:– So they have three cusps which is more than in modern humans? Not sure what the difference to other Homo is, can this be made clearer? 75: 122: 52: 893:
The pelvis has features reminiscent of Australopithecus, including anterposteriorly compressed (from front to back) femoral necks
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H. naledi is the only identified hominin to have existed during the early Middle Stone Age of the Highveld region, South Africa.
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samples by the frequent presence of principal cusps, such as metacone M–M, hypocone M–M, and hypoconulid with Y-pattern on M–M"
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the 2nd molar erupted comparatively late in life, emerging alongside the premolars instead of before
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It was discovered a month after the Dinaledi Chamber, November 2013. Do you think the map
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In 2017, the remains were dated to 335,000–236,000 years ago in the Middle Pleistocene.
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Now the rest of the sentence doesn't fit anymore because there is no "had". --
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Their mosaic anatomy also greatly expands the range of variation for the genus
924:– its referring to the thumb but should it refer to the metacarpal instead? 346:– This chamber is not in the diagram of the cave; was it newly discovered? 1048: 1029: 1008: 970: 955: 941: 912: 879: 860: 845: 816: 775: 752: 737: 704: 675: 646: 617: 588: 559: 526: 511: 496: 430: 397: 382: 367: 334: 288: 255: 224: 210: 195: 175: 160: 317:– suggest to add "additional" for clarity (additional individuals). 236:
Despite this, their classification with other Homo remains unclear.
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The fossils represent 737 anatomical elements—including the skull
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is thought to have died out because they couldn't compete with
413:– would add "known" (known range of variation" for clarity. 571:– maybe add "of the brain" to improve comprehensibility. 134: 103: 931:"The metacarpal bone of the thumb was well-developed" 442:– like what? Here we need at least an example I think. 267:– Maybe needs to be explained. Not sure if linking to 723:no, some individuals have those cusps, some don't, 727:has a strangely high proportion of those who do 685:Y-shaped hypoconulid (a ridge on the right side) 542:– I think adding the dating method is important. 761:also shows some obvious distinction from these 440:revises previous conceptions of human evolution 8: 869:specimen appears to have been small-bodied" 569:the presence of temporal and occipital lobe 30: 315:The remains of at least three individuals 474:died because they couldn't compete with 714:and have a high frequency of main cusps 61: 33: 895:– The femur is not part of the pelvis. 453:could not compete with bigger brained 449:Previous conception was small brained 7: 24: 987:– I don't get the connection to 478:with double the brain size, and 482:died out from competition with 1: 1067: 1049:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 1030:20:19, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 1009:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 971:19:56, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 956:16:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 942:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 913:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 880:19:56, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 861:16:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 846:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 828:– Which single individual? 817:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 797:Concerning the spinal cord 776:19:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 753:16:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 738:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 705:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 676:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 656:The necks of the molars is 647:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 618:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 589:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 560:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 527:19:56, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 512:16:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 497:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 431:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 398:19:49, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 383:16:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC) 368:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 344:Lesedi Chamber of the cave 335:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 289:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 256:21:33, 16 April 2020 (UTC) 225:04:59, 13 April 2020 (UTC) 211:02:28, 13 April 2020 (UTC) 196:23:27, 5 April 2020 (UTC) 176:20:59, 5 April 2020 (UTC) 161:20:59, 5 April 2020 (UTC) 991:here, what is the point? 307:"the parts of the skull" 757:Done. 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