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concept that might be common in other countries but, from a New
Zealand point of view, is lesser evolved. We in this country have debated the language concerning our community so vividly and strongly that to be reverted to an international consensus on the term, which will be seen by most in this country as a big step backwards and an unravelling of how we have evolved our self-identification in this country, is a painful imposition.
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I am not sure that I could contribute to that with too much insight. However, I think that we should revert the article to LGBT New
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Consistency is a good thing but there should have been the opportunity to talk on this issue. Besides, the article isn't just on homosexuality, but rather bisexuality and transexuality as well, and transexuals can be homosexual, heterosexual or bisexual. Homosexuality in New
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It has occurred to me that virtually no gay people use 'gay' as a noun, as in the title of this page. Perhaps a more appropriate name might be 'Gay and lesbian New
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then nzdating.com and nzpersonals.com have much higher ranking which may indicate that LGBT use these general sites more than LGBT-specific ones. gaynz.com has some non-personals content ( can't see anything at gay.co.nz unless I signup so I assume there it's 100% personals??) so it might be
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The article reads, 'Sex between men was only decriminalised in 1986, and like all countries, there is always the issue of homophobia with which to contend.' I think the second half of this sentence should be rewritten; the tone is too informal. Another thing I don't like is this: 'Due to New
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I've corrected some of the spelling and punctuation, and removed a bit of the supposition. A few more references might help, and I see too that there are cases of repetition, but otherwise this is a good little article.
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Zealand's relatively small population, the LGBT community is small...' This seems like something that is just a little too obvious to be stated; besides, 'small' is a relative term.
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