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The section on CEPA omits the fact that Hong Kong business lobbied for the agreement in conjunction with China's ascention to the WTO. The reason what their fear that Hong Kong might lose out if China agreed to some ascention-related side deals (e.g., with the US). More, this section has no sources.
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which states that ambiguous names should not be used, it would make more sense to call this page Hong Kong-China conflict as it clarifies whom the conflict is between. Those who aren't aware of "mainland" being used as a way to describe PRC wouldn't understand. Plus "mainland" does appear to be a
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