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the majority of the consensus were indeed muslim, I have seen many other articles going on to elaborate much on the perpetrator's origins, but why not only on this one? whats the bias here? why dont you just stick to being neutral as a place providing objective knowledge and not letting your own arbitrary decisions shadowing over factual information being portrayed. And do not block and send me private messages if you want to "talk" talk here out in the open and see what the out come is.. Plus why dont you just stop contradicting yourself by rambling on about how most Asians are not muslim when your people (meaning the editors) were trying to protect this assertion of the perpetrators being "British Asian" WTF? get your damn act together please.. so according your previous comrade the perpetrators were British Asians who were in fact muslims, Jesus man, now you guys started contradicting each other.. but i do agree with you regarding this one, most Asians are not muslims so why call them British Asians, call them god damn muslims for crying out loud
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in their names and you dont need birth certificates to corroborate whether the rest of the named were muslim as well, use your inner gut, this is something that should come to you empirically that they were muslim, come on dudes lets be realistic here, you know and i know and so does everelse know thag they were muslims, why dont you just amend it to what it truly is.. its not only me asking you to do this, you had this request from many others as well, you blocked them all.. now this little girl lost everything, basically her whole life ahead of her, stop defending these perpetrators and do the girl some justice
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some indicator on the signal sentense, that these men had some sort of a commonality, cause trust me man, this request is gonna keep on coming to you, from each and every new reader who gets to this article, if you dont neutralize it, and keep it on this volatile state. And also do remember the little girl is also still alive and living, so at least show her some respect aye
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I found a credible source and added the the ethnicity of the perpetrators to the lead, as this is information that other articles on similar topics devote a great deal of attention to and national media coverage at the time did too. Feel free (of course) to come with constructive criticism and change
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And dude your imperturbable response sent to my "talk" after blocking me when I was asking you a question that was quite a bit sensitive and a bit sentimental to, say, the victim and her family in this case, is truth be told utterly deplorable and detestable and now I have no qualm in suspecting your
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There's recently been an edit war around whether the perpetrators in this case should be called "British Asian" or "British Pakistani" in the lead of the article. There's now an extended-confirmed protection in place for a few weeks to halt this, but I've a feeling the issue won't go away, so we need
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Well anyway im not here blame anyone here, just want the information to be represented in the most accurate manner. First of all if your were stuck in irresolute and your scruples were not being exactly sure whether these men were infact muslims; if you see the majority of convicts contain 'muhamed'
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Well yeah why dont you guys have your cup of tea and talk about how your perfect little world is after blocking every single person that oppose you.. why cant you have a discourse without having the need to block people off. Anyway, tell me the harm in mentioning the actuality of the situation where
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The issue is clouded by there being a perception in the UK that this type of crime generally involves perpetrators from ethnic minorities and white victims, and that there's consequently a racial motive. However the sources quoted in this article don't actually say this is the case, they just report
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The sources in the article mainly don't allude to the background of the criminals at all, just referring to them as "men", though one does use the term "Asian" to describe them. If sources don't refer to them as having Pakistani origins, describing them as such in the article is just speculation, or
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I think at this point it is best to avoid having any descriptor in the lead. I understand that it may seem reasonable from your perspective, however it can be seen as prejudiced. In addition nowhere in the article does it state that the perpetrators are muslim, simply being asian and having asian
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right, well i do have to say, i do agree with you for letting the readers come to their own conclusion without a verified source corrobarating that they were indeed muslim and everything else you say. I think i agreed with you on this one since yesterday, but what im suggesting is to at least put
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moral ground regarding this matter for defending these filthy pigs.. answer me this little man.. if it was truly your daughter, wouldnt you want this case to be given proper coverage and given adamant justice? please answer this question with proper reverence and without your nonchalant disdain
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nobody was inquirying about your religious faith, and i simply dont care what you believe in and what you dont, why are you running away from any confrontations and digressing from the conversation? Please answer my questions if you have nothing to fear and you dont condone these pigs actions..
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Well, indeed. Most Asians are not Muslim, after all (China and India, the two largest nations by population in Asia, have non-Muslim majorities, and so on). Reliable sources do comment on cases where terrorists -- as opposed to child sex abusers -- have been regular attendees at mosque or at a
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Legal charges laid out against accused can be sourced and ennumerated, as can outcomes outcommes of those charges. Withe highly publicized crimes, we do not conceal the charges.
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dude you look like you make a little bit more sense here, can you please read my comment below, and consider the request one more time, just make a rightious decision here.
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remember all your answers will be seeing here by anyone, so dont answer absent-minded, like you did on my talk, thank god i took a sceen shot of your outrageous response
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not.
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My personal view is that the ethnicity of criminals doesn't belong in the lead at all unless the crime is unambiguously related to it.
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While it may appear that many of the individuals listed are muslim, that is not how wikipedia works. All content we post must be
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Pigs are considered unclean in my religion, so the only pigs I defend on this encyclopedia are those helped out by
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article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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Furthermore we have to be especially careful as this does refer to living persons, we must be sure to adhere to
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Furthermore we have to be especially careful as this does refer to living persons, we must be sure to adhere to
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particular mosque, but reliable sources for such in these different cases, seems to be absent.
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of this discussion appears to point towards leaving it out, and it will remain as such.
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for example) don't mention the background of those involved in the lead, while others (
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to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for
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in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of
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violates wikipedia's rules against original research.
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