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3171:, different spokesmen etc. keep phrasing (perhaps also changing) Hamas’ attitude/policies towards Israel very often differently than the previous time. The fact that those attitudes are often published via news media or ‘charters’ and not via ‘scholars’ doesn’t make them less relevant, but also perhaps not easier to understand. Therefore, I strongly disadvice colleague VR to go ahead with, as he calls it, (drastically) “summarizing the section on Hamas policies towards the two state solution” (ofcourse he means the section on policies towards Israel) for his alleged reasons that the article (and this section!?) would be ‘way too long’ and ‘non-scholarly’ sources should be shunned, slighted, scorned, disregarded or downplayed. Yes, the article is rather long, partly because the Pal.-Isr. conflict is older than a century and very complicated. Especially the issue ‘policies’ is mindtwistingly intricate, thus should get the place and length in the article that it needs for clarity, without smuggling away positions/statements/information that don’t please us, on the pretext that they are ‘not scholarly’ etc.. Western countries including Israel have the infrastructure and facilities and luxury for scholars; many Hamas adherents don’t even have a house, nor much certainty of having a meal (or merely to still live) at the end of the day. Section ‘Policies’ is core business in this article and should be treated with care, not shortened carelessly or for the wrong reasons/motives that I just tackled. If the length of the article really is problematic, I note that two sections are longer than section ‘Policies...’: sections “Organization”, and “Violence” (nearly twice as long, and its subsection “terrorist designation” alone is already almost as long as section “Policies
”). One or both of them might be largely replaced to a sub-article. Especially “Violence” is a rather trivial issue: Hamas is at war, doesn’t deny that, and war means violence. You can spell out every war act of Hamas in great detail, tell them they are terrorist, terrorist terrorist terrorist terrorist, many pages long, but that doesn’t change Hamas much and hardly helps anyone to understand that political/military organisation nor to end that shameful and heart-rending war. That pretty multicolor very long wikitable “Terrorist org.” might be replaced to a subarticle, perhaps even with (most of) that whole topic ‘ violence’. -- 1280: 3278:– especially if the Wiki text even states that Hamas has had (changing/evolving) “policies towards” such a thing. “The” or “a” t.s.-solut. hasn’t existed during Hamas’ lifetime, logically Hamas hasn’t commented on it, logically such comment can’t be found in this Knowledge (XXG) article’s section, thus the assertion in this ‘summary’ of Hamas having “evolving policies towards” two-state solution is incorrect and baseless, thus the changed section title incorrect, baseless and misleading. (By the way: saying that a Wiki text or heading can too easily generate incorrect conceptions/ideas of ‘facts’ within some readers’ minds isn’t saying that the involved editor had the 2289:'s recent edits there are now two conflicting estimates of the size of the Qassam Brigades in the article. Can anyone familiar with the topic comment on whether there are any sources evaluating the relative reliability of these different estimates? It doesn't really feel right to just say "some sources say this, some sources say that, other sources say third thing..." They're both ranges too, so I feel like the least confusing-for-the-reader way to do this would be to have one estimate inline and if there's a need to put an asterisk on that number, that can be done in a footnote. 3625: 2796: 836: 646: 283:
over $ 53 of money they don't have just to read a source and cite a specific passage to reinstate the infobox link here or would it just be another case of an editor with more authority cherrypicking and stretching some irrelevant Knowledge (XXG) policy to weakly rationalize the censorship even after the $ 53 was spent? It could also just be an accident though, so out of respect I won't speculate any further. Unless Hamas does something truly in the realm of endorsing socialist or communist politics, this remains a lie of omission by Knowledge (XXG) in my mind.
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title it had (‘Two-state solution’) was not fully right (the subsection covered more options than that) but was removed on 10 Dec and not replaced by a new name; possibly to have an excuse to move this subsection back to the top position within section “Political and religious positions” where it had been expelled earlier by another colleague. I don’t have a strong preference as to the following order of subsections here, but I do care for sections and subsections to have clear titles, usefully indicating/demarcating their content.
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their info boxes. This should be fixed. The second issue is who comes after al-Rantisi? I've seen two names Mousa Abu Marzook (the first Political Bureau Chairman from 1992-1996) or his successor Khaled Mashal (the second Political Bureau Chairman from 1996-2017). I believe that time should be given to editing each leader's page in order to make the timeline of leadership more cohesive and correct because right now it's a mess. I like to hear your thoughts.
31: 1083:. Baconi for example stated (I can't recall the page but I can dig it) that since a long time Hamas has been eager to get Saudi diplomatic and political and support, but the Saudis didn't always reciprocate that interest. Likewise, many sources have said that Hamas, given Gaza's geography, has strongly emphasized good relations with Egypt, although Egyptian interest in relations with Hamas has fluctuated. 3299:
policies/attitudes towards Israel (or towards ‘t.s.-solut.’), so it may fairly well be placed in subsection §Comments from non-Hamas-members but it would be misplaced, undue, unbalanced/tendentious, unnecessary to have just this one (rather vague) ‘opinion’/statement of one (fairly obscure) professor—among the 19 other opinions in our article of outsiders about Hamas policies etc. — in this
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the vague contention/opinion of prof. Ayoob mentioned in this section doesn’t change that fact). But then, to use that word ‘t.-s. solution’ as prominently in the heading and also in the first sentence of this (sub)section as is done recently on 7 July would needlessly and unjustly suggest (and thus easily mislead readers into thinking) that there
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The lead needs to mention the horrible state of the Gaza Strip as right now it seems like Hamas started a war for no reason. Also the fact the article has a section about "Violence" but no section talking about the killing of many Gazan civilian's (and also assassination of Hamas officials) by Israel
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Meanwhile, I’m replacing that statement of prof Ayoob of 2020 (over “two-state solution” etc.) from this summarizing top paragraph to subsection §Comments from non-Hamas-members, because it is very vague and would be overvalued when placed in this summary. A concrete t.s.-solution(in Wiki definition)
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concrete, clear, permanent “two-state solution”(-proposal) for ‘the P.-I. conflict’ currently being proposed, discussed or negotiated (in official political circles), and hasn’t been since 15 May 1948 – thus such t.s.-solution-proposal also has never existed during Hamas’ existence (=since 1987) (and
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The previously tenth paragraph (‘2011, Mishal and Abbas respecting borders’) seemed too vague, so I removed it. “Respecting borders” in this context seems a meaningless statement (as noted in a tag since roughly two weeks: which border exactly is meant, and what exactly does Mishal or Hamas do or not
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estimates. But that can be stated in a more transparant way in our article, I agree. I think though, it is too difficult for us, and/or not our task, to assess which estimate is 'most reliable'. Four estimates lie rather far apart, so I think we may (and must!) assume that the outside world does not
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to realise these "facts" you're spouting are based on concepts that humans invent to refer to phenomena in the real world. Terrorism is a word, a label, a human invention. The violence to which it refers is, of course, real, but what word we use for it isn't as magically set in stone as you suggest.
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As I said, this has been the subject of extensive discussions before and consensus is presently not in favour of doing this for reasons elaborated on there. So, if you disagree with that, those discussions are where to air your feelings. But you may not do this at present, due to the decision of the
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calls for each subsection to contain a summary of a sub-topic. So "Foreign relations" should contain a summary of Hamas' foreign relations and full treatment should be given in another article. Prior to your edits, there was indeed a summary, but I agree that it was a terrible summary. In your edit,
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These are the only images I was able to find on commons of Hamas militants wearing the green headband, although there are a lot of results under "Hamas" that I didn't search through so others may exist. I think Option 3 is what you are looking for, although 1 and 2 may come in handy here or in other
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such relations. A Knowledge (XXG) article however shouldn’t be used for such deception of our reading public. So, please, colleague @Vice regent (and others), either replace this vagueness with serious and highly relevant information, worthy for a place in the lead section, or expect at some moment,
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The UN and most human rights organizations continue to consider Gaza to be occupied by Israel as Israel, prior to this latest offensive, controlled Gaza's airspace, territorial waters, population registry, and most border crossings. That, in their view, equated to the exercise of "effective military
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The third and fourth sentences of this paragraph were drawing conclusions from the ‘fact’ of “Hamas's acceptance of the 1967 borders”, which ‘fact’ however is not prooved or stated anywhere in Knowledge (XXG) as to be a fact. In that case, I believe we in Knowledge (XXG) cannot draw conclusions from
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The topic of this now restored subsection (recently the part of section ‘Political and religious positions’ until the start of subsection ‘Hudna proposals’) has since its inception on 11 Apr 2023 always been: policies and attitudes towards Israel – though it never yet fully bore that name. The last
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I don't think it's fair that the way it's looking right now, someone would have to cough up $ 53 to get this very basic piece of information back onto a public online encyclopedia and even then you gotta wonder if anyone here would even care that a college kid, probably with no job or income, forked
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for some useful guidance. But in practice, editors give new users quite a lot of wiggle room. If a new user creates a talk page section and just describes what they think should be changed with some specificity, explains why in a calm-ish, rational-ish (preferably wiki-policy-based, evidence-based)
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I feel as if calling it a “militant” group is more neutral than “resistance group” as that implies their violence is in some way justified, when the majority of their attacks have been on civilians which has zero military value. Calling it a resistance movement puts it into the same category as WW2
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Thats just not good enough. Terroism is "Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims." According to wikipedia itself which is exactly what Hamas has done for almost a year now. This needs to be corrected regardless of what
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Because I probably started this thread before that warning was put into effect and I am clicking my notifications inbox which brings me directly to the comment for which I got a notification, skipping past any and all warnings that may have been added to the top of the page. Why are we assuming I'm
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Thank you for your response! It was removed shortly -but not immediately- after October 7th, 2023; the date of Hamas' recent terror attack on Israel. Looking at the edit history I was able to track down the removal of both "anti-communism" and "anti-imperialism" from the infobox to a single edit on
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I see that we now have a popper list of leaders of Hamas, this is a step in right direction. However, I have within the last few days noticed on their separated pages two major issues, starting with Ahmed Yassin and then his successor, Abdel Aziz al-Rantisi. There is no official "job title" within
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I believe the lead should say "Hamas, an acronym of its official name, Harakat al-Muqawama al-Islamiya (Arabic: Ű­Ű±ÙƒŰ© Ű§Ù„Ù…Ù‚Ű§ÙˆÙ…Ű© Ű§Ù„Ű„ŰłÙ„Ű§Ù…ÙŠŰ©, romanized: កarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ÊŸIslāmiyyah, lit. 'Islamic Resistance Movement'), is a Palestinian Sunni Islamist political movement and military organization
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The lead contains more vague statements that I wanted to address (and still want to), but recently (12 May, 05:49), one more vague sentence was added: the last sentence in paragraph three, about “foreign
relations
Egypt
(etc.)”. Its first five words seem redundant: aren’t (foreign) “relations with
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for discussing this point, here. I (still) consider section ‘Foreign relations’ (very) intransparent, unstructured etc.. But that does not mean, that my attempted ‘improvement’ on 20 May was good enough; in retrospect, it seems to have been perhaps a little overhasty (not necessarily for all the
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Is it possible that militants in Gaza being frequently bombed right now have a temporary alliance based on strength in numbers/public support alone and if not, why not? To me it doesn't seem like these are the circumstances for a genuine ideological unity Occam's razor would suggest they are not
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Instead of being introduced to the nuance that anti-communist groups can also be terroristic or "bad guys", without the link these readers may just assume Hamas IS communist given that they are 1. enemies of Israel & the west and 2. "anti-imperialist" (which would be in the center of a venn
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Knowledge (XXG) describes occupation as territory actually being placed under the authority of a hostile army. This article states Hamas has been governing since 2007 & that Gaza is Israeli-occupied. Can this sentence be updated to reflect the correct status of which areas Israel currently
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and other organizations, argue that Israel has occupied Palestinian territories including Gaza since 1967.While they acknowledge that Israel no longer had the traditional marker of effective control after the disengagement—a military presence—they hold that with the help of technology, it has
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Next to reinstating a title above the subsection, I’ve organized the already given information chronologically. (The chronologic structure of the subsection had gravely withered away, the subsection had thereby gotten very intransparent and incoherent, except perhaps for a few Knowledge (XXG)
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The only information, more or less involving ‘two states’, mentioned in this section, are statements from different Hamas spokesmen and in some Hamas texts, starting 2006, most every time in different wordings, statements that are either vague , or alluding to a (not-permanent but) temporary
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Changing this article to state that Hamas is a “resistance organisation” and omitting the fact that it has committed crimes against humanity from the introduction section of this article is the opposite of neutrality; it is clear this is being edited in an attempt to alter public opinion.
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preconditions
” for a non-existing plan is an extreme vagueness; this (utterly vague) ‘opinion’ of a professor does not even imply or say that Hamas itself has any opinion about any t.s.-solution(in the Knowledge (XXG) definition) and thus doesn’t add any concrete information about Hamas’
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I'd suggest discussing changes one-by-one. As far as I can see the characterisation as a terrorist group isn't done in wikivoice - we're reporting what others said. The attacks against civilians are prominent and are extensively covered by RS. The translation of their name is irrelevant.
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One thing removing "Anti-Communist" from "ideologies" could accomplish in theory is to remove a certain cognitive dissonance western/American readers might have when reading this article. The United States fought Vietnam over communism so some readers might be confused as to why Hamas is
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Your memory is accurate: Hamas is most definitely still anti-communist despite temporary alliance with the PFLP during a Israeli offensive and there used to be a link to a political science journal paper called "The Origins of Hamas: Militant Legacy or Israeli Tool?" by Jean-Pierre Filiu
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occupies as of 2007 - such as describing Gaza with an up-to-date word and/or phrase or using a phrase such as "...following occupation by Israel." (A previous edit to the talk page refered to the risk of creating a duplicate link. This is not a suggestion of linking to another article.)
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of them Hamas statements – for one or two reasons – do not comment on a/the ‘two-state solution’ within the definition of that term as given in the Knowledge (XXG) article on that lemma (and the vague contention/opinion of prof. Ayoob mentioned in the section doesn’t change that fact).
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It is a visual that is strongly associated with Hamas, and it should be included in the article. I don't have experience with adding images to articles and dealing with image use policies, so I do not know which image to use, hence why I am not submitting this as a formal edit request.
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There appears to be now original research in this article where editors are introducing themes in Hamas' positions that are not found in scholarly sources. For example, can someone tell me which scholars say Hamas had "two spokesmen, four stances"? If not, why is this in the article?
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There appears to be now original research in this article where editors are introducing themes in Hamas' positions that are not found in scholarly sources. For example, can someone tell me which scholars say Hamas had "two spokesmen, four stances"? If not, why is this in the article?
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contributors who regularly edited on it.) While doing so, I noticed some (smaller or larger) mistakes et cetera which I’ve ‘corrected’ in the way and for the reasons I explain here below. Ofcourse, each of these ‘corrections’ stands open for debate and further improvement.
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However, the scholarly consensus takes time to coalesce. We're in the middle of a war it's worth letting the reader know what the most recent position is, even if it comes from the AP or even Middle East Monitor. Later we'll replace these articles by scholarly sources.
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is mentioned on the page 130 times. Its also mentioned in lead in last paragraph. The word Hamas itself means Islamic Resistance Movement and is defined as such in opening statement. I'm not disputing Hamas hasn't done massacres. But context is also important for
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Well, that should be very clear: VR has, in a complicated edit on 7 July, ‘decided’ that the truce offer from Yassin came after the year 1992 (by unmotivatedly changing some subheadings) but we don’t have any real information about when that truce offer was made.
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Previous sentence 5 (‘
President of the PNA
’) made a too vague statement (on behalf of author Seurat), I’ve replaced it with more concrete and clear information about the status of PLO and Palestinian President, from the ‘Palestinians’ Prisoners Document’ (2006)
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In isolation from context of why the group was formed, or why these actions occurred, it feels as if this article is almost implicitly telling us that this group is an "evil" terrorist group, when real life is far less black-and-white. Compare, the IDF article.
3998:] should stand. For eg. why is Israel biggest military setback mentioned here? This is clearly written in Israel point of view. The cause of war is a understatement - its much more complicated than that. Unless you can explain it in lead - i have removed it 481:
it (as was already noted in a {clarify} tag), so I deleted these sentences. If you disagree, please put the sentences back and tell us, why you disagree, and what the sentences mean (see the {clarify} tag in the now removed version, asking for clarification).
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Also agree that attacks against civillians needs to be emphasised in the lead, and that Astropulse's edits seem to have effectively downplayed them, which I think is undue. Hamas was historically very well known for its suicide bombings against civillians.
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There are lots of sources, BBC is a good choice as it can’t be accused of favouring Palestine. Not sure why you’d want it removed. Even with the unidentified remains skewing the demographics, the majority of identified victims are still women and children.
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Hamas has been encompassing militant, political, and societal (cultural) resistance, and started as an ordintary, albeit radical political party. I know that some corners are trying to reduce Hamas to a militant outfit, but its profile is much wider. —
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Scholarly sources are good and all things being equal should be preferred to newspaper articles. Most of the section is already based on the former and I wouldn't object to removing information based on articles published 15-20 years ago in the NYT or
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This claim has no basis in history and seeing as it lacks a source should be removed. "campaigned for the wearing of the hijab, which is not a part of traditional women's attire in Palestine," The photo for who Khalil Raad is the source in this link
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control" over the territory and as such Gaza remained occupied by Israel. That isn't even in question right now anyway, but even before the invasion by Israeli ground forces the majority view was Israel continues to occupy Gaza. See for example
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I must say or concede, that my editing on 2 July on section #Military wing was rather lazy and/or lousy. I had found those differing third and fourth estimates of that size of QB in our own sub-article about the topic. So no, we don't have
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in this edit I think the summary at the top of every section is important given how long the sections are. And the section on political positions is indeed way too long, with a lot of verbatim quoting. We should ideally be paraphrasing and
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proposals hang together with other Hamas ‘attitudes’ towards Israel; so I see no strong ground, logic or necessity to keep that information in a separate subsection, outside of the chronology of the rest of the information on this topic.
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It sounds like we should find a source discussing the implications of how far apart these estimates are (unfortunately, simply saying that and providing sources A, B, C, and D with the variance in their numbers as evidence would be
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During WWII Nazi Propaganda did accuse Jews of profiteering. These false accusations were done as part of their efforts to portray Jews as the enemy of the German people, and to dehumanize them to facilitate the Holocaust.
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I mean, the word has only existed for a couple hundred years. And if we proceeded to apply it in the way you suggest, it would lose all utility because we'd be sticking it on every page for every single country on earth.
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Images should serve to enhance the understanding of an article's subject. I think that there should be images of the Hamas militants wearing green headbands with their faces obscured by a black mask, along the lines of
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Calling Hamas a resistance movement is not neutral at all. I’m fine with your other edits but please revert this characterisation as a resistance movement, the translation of their name has no basis on their conduct
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Now, our article (in lead section) corroborated that claim (“widely popular
”) with four sources. Two of them were press articles from after the start of the 2023–2024 war, which only state that ‘support for Hamas
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Previously eleventh paragraph (‘February 2012
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even breaking the rules at all, let alone on purpose when this thread is in fact an edit request to put "anti-communist" back under ideologies here? If this is referring to my CAREFUL use of the word "terrorist
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As to sentence 7: This statement was not made by Ayoob in his book. Professor Ayoob in his 2020 book wrote (as this Knowledge (XXG) article more or less cited until 10Dec2023): “Acceptance of the 1967 borders
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for example. Since you are not a registered user with extendedconfirmed privileges, you are limited to making edit requests. See the Warning: active arbitration remedies section at the top of this page.
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But my two corrections today, on that 7 July edit (after my first correction on 8 July), concern its unmotivated changing of the section title and its undue emphasis on a vague statement of a professor.
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try to hide that fact (= the acknowledged uncertainty of that strength) from our readers by giving one simple (seemingly 'certain') estimate and stalling that obvious uncertainty only in a footnote. --
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Reverting back to a particular version of an article (and thereby reverting multiple edits at once) counts as a single revert, which I was perfectly entitled to do, and is not a violation of the 1RR.
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thats your editorial bias talking. there are further edits after my changes that reverted and improved upon my changes. there are two sides to everything. You dont get to decide where you applies
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Agreed, thank you, I’m not sure what the motive behind Astropulses edits are. The page for Palestinian Islamic Jihad also contains an introduction emphasising their attacks on atrocities
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I also object to describing Hamas as a resistance movement. The original "political and military organisation" label was fine, and I will be reverting back to it once my 1RR has expired.
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said that he was only on the side of the Palestinian people. It did not provide any military aid to Hamas. He invited the parties to a ceasefire. You need to remove Turkey from the list.
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The summary is important not just for organizational reasons but also because certain things are connected to one another. Take a simple example. Previously the section summary said:
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that the 2017 charter ‘accepts borders’.) If you disagree, please put a (more correct) citation of Prof. Ayoob back into the (sub)section (and please explain the relevance of it).
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Oppose the Astropulse changes, we should cover it the way RS do, and the attacks on civilians are often prominently included, as is the recognition as a terrorist organisation.
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The many statements of Hamas about how to regard or how to ‘deal’ with (the existence of) Israel are undoubtedly (very) complicated, because, as I explain today in Talk section
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On third paragraph of the introductory section, someone with the extended protector right could add a hyperlink to the word "2017 Hamas Charter" which upon clicking can lead to
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Previously fourth paragraph (‘In a 2006
’): The second and third sentences of this paragraph were wrongly summarizing the referenced source, so I repaired those statements now.
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It’s honestly insane that people are still trying to claim that Israel was in Gaza after 2005 even though it factually wasn’t. We truly live in a post-truth society. Wow.
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The description does not state the Hamas is a terrorist organization which uses violence and fear against civilians as a means of achieving it political and religious goals.
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Corriebertus, with all due respect, I disagree with how you are organizing the article. For example, I disagree with your recent organization of the foreign policy section.
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After the latest edits I agree, although I still think the original edit that emphasised the war crimes and stated the background to the ongoing war was a better article
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Where is the source for this? The only sources listed just show how Venezuela has condemned the actions of Israel, not that they have supported the actions of the Hamas
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Given this article is way too long, I'd like to go ahead and summarize the section on Hamas policies towards the two state solution. We should give the most
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world war, so maybe WW2 was a typo, but if so it just needs editing with a source about Nazi propaganda that specifically claims Jewish people profited from
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for ‘seeking relations’, except this vague metaphore, this vagueness tells us nothing, really; and a lead section seems not the place for vague idlenesses.
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In the first years of the Intifada, Hamas violence was restricted to Palestinians; collaborators with Israel, and people it defined as "moral deviants"
” 335:"Unless Hamas does something truly in the realm of endorsing socialist or communist politics, this remains a lie of omission by Knowledge (XXG) in my mind" 1638:
But if it was meant as is, it’s categorically false. The Nazis never would have claimed that Jewish people were benefiting as a result of their actions.
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do when they ‘respect’ a border?). If anyone can give clear, substantial information about that Mishal–Abbas–event in 2011, please add it to the article.
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Your comment is really long and parts of it are off-topic. Responding to attempts to summarize a very long article with very long comments is unhelpful.
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” had lost a few essential words, after several edits; I’ve put them back. The date of the press conference is now also corrected, into 1 May 2017. 937: 317: 2077:
This has been the subject of extensive discussions before and consensus is presently not in favour of doing this for reasons elaborated on there.
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Marwan Issa, who was recently confirmed to have been killed by Israel, should also get an X marking his death/assassination, like Saleh Al-Arouri
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I would very much doubt whether “Hamas is widely popular in Palestinian society
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Furthermore, the section regarding violence clearly notes Hamas has committed massacres against Israeli civilians. Please revert this edit.
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In today’s edit, several sentences have been slightly rephrased for clarity or to be more faithful to the text of the given reference source.
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I'm really not following your comment. As I've shown you elsewhere, scholars consider 1988-1992 to be a distinct period in Hamas' evolution.
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I questioned that too. I think maybe Palestinian views on Hamas change over time due to circumstances. Here is a report from Oct 25 2023 by
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to scholarly sources, and less weight to news reports in news sources that never made it into scholarship. If no one objects, I can start.
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I'll just remove the extraordinary claim for now, but no objection if someone wants to add that milder claim with the other source. —
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say those things. The word "genocide" does not appear and the "killing the Jews" language in Article 7 comes from quoting Allah. –
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Remove Venezuela from the list of state allies in the infobox. Neither of the two sources referenced verify this claim, and it was
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Only 1 of the 3 references provided actually includes the qualifier "vastly", while the others only mention the estimated number.
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Have you read the WARNING: ACTIVE ARBITRATION REMEDIES section at the top of this page? If so, why are you not complying with it?
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Would've been easier to figure out what you meant if you used more words, but I did finally manage to parse it out. Good catch.
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proposal. We know some parties oppose it. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't evaluate Hamas' position on it based on sources.
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I'm not sure if the allies and enemies listing is helpful, given the complex nature of various relationships. Eg this report
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Hamas is led by a Political Bureau. The name and function of this institution seems to be that described by the article
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frequently described as a mouthpiece of the Turkish government that engages in propaganda, owing to its state-run status
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I went ahead and changed the section titles, mostly removing what I felt was OR. If anyone has objections, let me know.
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From the opener alone it is evident this article has a serious neutrality problem, with a bias in favour of Israel.
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i think previous version on this violated NPOV - If you can propose a way to write it in NPOV - we can include it.
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After winning the Palestinian elections, Hamas leaders made multi-national diplomatic tours abroad. In April 2006,
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resistance movements agains the Nazis, the near majority of whom never committed mass violence against civilians
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In the criticism section it says that the European Parliament started the 2023 Israeli-Hamas war. This is untrue.
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I hope you will engage me in constructive dialogue on how to best organize this article which is already too long.
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subsection here. (But while replacing it there, it needs also to be corrected, in the way I’ve already explained
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Add a mention to the false cognate in Hebrew Ś—ŚžŚĄ (khamas) meaning "violence" and people's generalization of it.
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to mention civilian casualties in the latest conflict, it should defer to sources in the more relevant article,
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I'd suggest you be WP:BOLD and rewrite the sentence based on the information in the Foreign Relations section.
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Israel responded by invading Gaza Strip and killing 35,000 Palestinians, majority of them women and children.
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No vague, meaningless (and even deceiving) sentences please, in the lead section (about “foreign relations”
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President Milei has declared Hamas as a terrorist organization multiple times while also supporting Israel.
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I've reverted Astropulse's edits because these edits go too far downplaying Hamas's attacks on civillians.
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There needs to be care that this article reflects the actions of the group with nuance and context.
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We are in fact discussing the article here and whether to put back "anti-communism" under ideologies.
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be interpreted as a de facto acceptance of the preconditions for a two-state solution”, while only
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that determination of reliability, but rather find a source discussing it that we can refer to.)
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however tells us, among much more, that a Hamas minister has “visited (
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I would also prefer if the details of the October 7 attack were also added back to the lead.
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also says that reverting consecutive edits by a single user counts a single revert. Perhaps
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is currently not in discussion, the 2017charter itself doesn’t propose one, “acceptance of
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it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a
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diagram between the two, Hamas and Communists) as still properly listed in the infobox.
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At the very least their pre-2023 positions should be determined from scholarship, no?
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Add Argentina to the list of countries that declared Hamas as a terrorist organization
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I agree with him, can someone remove Turkey because there is really no help to Hamas?
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Answering this question is much harder than you might imagine. Have a read through
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I have added an NPOV template back that links to this section to gather consensus.
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Agree with FortunateSons; we shouldn’t be whitewashing this organisation.
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part of “foreign policy”? But the sentence ails also in graver respects.
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Doesn't mean that if they do not endorse them then they are against them.
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authors have characterized the violent language against all Jews in the
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Or, if the typo was using “Nazi” instead of “Neo Nazi” then same goes.
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or antisemitic. The charter attributes collective responsibility
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Much of it is also unsourced. 2467:Antisemitism should be reworded 1708:until a consensus is reached. 1419:reasons you mentioned here). -- 711:. Much of it is also unsourced. 3980:I think the article has clear 3695:https://t.me/c/1407249165/5197 3387:03:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC) 3367:02:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC) 1613:“The charter is said to echoe 1559:needs to be cited or removed. 235:October 14th, 2023 at 4:01AM ( 1: 3769:indiscriminate rocket attacks 3435:Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades 3374:Gaza_Strip#Israeli_occupation 3326:" Seriously? Yes, there is a 2966:"two spokesmen, four stances" 1343:Knowledge (XXG):Summary style 672:"two spokesmen, four stances" 213:12:27, 28 February 2024 (UTC) 4031:Knowledge (XXG):Edit warring 922:International Criminal Court 192:04:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC) 174:01:20, 12 January 2024 (UTC) 3775:. In 2018, a motion at the 3684:to reactivate your request. 3672:has been answered. Set the 3602:to reactivate your request. 3590:has been answered. 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Knowledge (XXG):NOTAFORUM
here
Jester6482
talk
01:20, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Professor Penguino
talk
04:39, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Abo Yemen
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12:27, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Heyimastopsign
talk
03:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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