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1133:: The Pearce source does not support the statement "Writing tablets have been recovered from the Roman military fort of Isca Augusta (modern-day Caerleon, Newport)"—It does not mention Isca Augusta at all. What source says it was specifically Isca Augusta and not somewhere else in Caerleon?
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