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not just press releases) should we care about petitions. Knowledge is not a breaking news site. We're not here to report every new thing that happens to every subject. A good question to ask when submitting this stuff is, "will anyone care about this in 10 years?" If the answer is "who knows" or "probably not", then the content probably doesn't belong in the article, even if sourced. Per
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HubPages requires you (assuming you are a US citizen) to give them your SSN prior to being paid?" and
Deborah-Diane responded, "Yes, I did give them my Social Security Number when I started with HubPages about four years ago. I've never had a problem as a result. Periodically, they contact me to make sure my info is all correct." Source: www.infobarrel.com/forum-topic.php?id=12698
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I removed the competitor section because it was unsourced POV. Similar companies can be viewed by clicking one of the categories at the end of the article, which will provide more up-to-date listings of other websites or companies. Criticisms (as well as praise, etc.) of the company should be sourced
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has been provided. Reiterating what I said above, "only when mainstream news websites start to care about this petition and write about from an analytical perspective (i.e. not just press releases) should we care about petitions." The mere existence of the petition doesn't guarantee inclusion. Until
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to be brought back on the air or if they're from a bunch of angry people who want to shake stuff up at HubPages headquarters. Knowledge is not a soapbox. Like any other subject, only when mainstream news websites start to care about this petition and write about from an analytical perspective (i.e.
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Yes, it is deceptive (I feel) that HubPages Terms of Use has coupled "Account
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current tax information" (which we all do) but I felt it important to write it as "submit current tax information to HubPages (including SSN)" since I was taken aback that this was required. Also, if any ONE of those criteria are not met, HubPages keeps all of an author's earnings, permanently. You
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Is there some way I can request a single page to be removed from the blacklist? The HubPages CEO recently wrote an article on the history of HubPages and it mentioned the merger with
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It seemed to me that this content was under the section on inactivity, which tended to suggest that if you became inactive, or closed your account, and if the other criteria were not met, then you'd forfeit the money. If you could clarify that for me, I'd appreciate it. Thanks,
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I'm marking it as declined to take it out of the queue for now. The first request was a promotional re-wording. The second and third looked like proper corrections and perhaps acceptable use of a primary source, but I notice the text itself is no longer in the article.
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I removed content about a Change.org petition that was launched against the company for some reason or another that was submitted by a single-purpose account in good faith. We're not here to promote these common petitions, whether they're about fans wanting
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if you are reverted, the onus is on you to open a discussion on the article's talk page until consensus for inclusion exists. I opened the discussion for you. Restoring the content was inappropriate and has been undone. Thankfully there is
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1138:, My apologies. This was my first edit. I completely see your point and I agree. I will summarize the TOS instead and add a "representative" sample as suggested (later on today). Thank you for explaining the process as well. Best,
1358:@Cyphoidbomb, The Change.org petition has already been through several checks and balances. This is not "soapbox" material. Witnesses (including authors and charities) have come forward to offer support and additional proof.
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