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of us. I still got an A in his class because he graded on a curve. I remember his line, "The highest F is an A." I'd guess I averaged about 60% on his killer multiple-choice-question exams. Yet, a lot of his teaching stuck with me and made more sense as I went on in my studies. It was interesting to read this Knowledge article, which really captured his essence. I didn't know, however, that he was a civil rights activist. He always stuck me as so into his theorizing that any applied, real world activity would bias his objectivity. His quiet activism in retrospect seems consistent with his humble brilliance. He used two books that looked to be self-published to teach what I recollect he called "dynamic systemic symbolic interactionism." The were pretty simple in layout, but not content, and were published by some obscure company. They looked almost like somebody's bound dissertation. One was a text and the other a workbook of sorts. He called them the "yellow menace" and the "red terror." It was in his class that I started to really learn to think critically, logically, and methodologically -- even if I wasn't yet intellectually prepared for everything he was dishing out. Engelmann had a big influence on me, although it took me awhile to realize it.
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Jewish people who helped him without asking whether or not he was Jewish. The point was that these people cared about refugees without regard to their religion, saw a young man in need, and helped him. The implication here is that he did not consider himself Jewish but was deeply touched by the help he received. As a result he always thought favorably of Jews. However, he identified himself as a Catholic. The kindness of Jewish agencies was matched by the Wesleyan Foundation in America. It was unconcerned about whether he was Catholic, Methodist, or Jewish. He himself saw "religious sentiment less as the base, than as the outgrowth and the accompaniment of common human decency." He confirmed his Christian identity by having his son baptized as quickly as possible.
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The matter of Engelmann's Jewishness or non-Jewishness is complex. On the one hand he was baptized and was able to escape from Austria because he had a baptismal certificate. On the other hand, he was greatly aided in his escape by Jewish refugee committees. He greatly admired the humanity of the
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How nice that you remember so much about the influence of Engelmann's classes and his Systemic Dynamic Social Theory. Am not sure if Wm C. Brown Book Company is a self-publisher. I see a lot of that company these days in text books. You are absolutely right about the "yellow menace" and the "red
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I had Engelmann as a professor when I was an undegrad at Northern Illinois University (NIU) in 1978. When I took him as a not-too-serious-student sophomore, most of what he said went over my head and other students as well. His extensive historical references were beyond the knowledge base of most
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terror" named for the color of their covers. What you say about learning to think critically, logically, and methodologically is a common experience among his former students. I am delighted to hear you have been influenced like the rest of us.
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I removed the following list of articles. These kinds of very long lists are not acceptable in Knowledge biographical articles. The articles that matter are already mentioned in teh reference section --
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It is stretching the thin thread of truth to say Engelmann was Jewish. We ought to remove him from that category and leave his presumed ethnicity and religious identity alone.
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I am quit sure Hugo O. Engelmann is an Americans of Jewish descent, because he is named in Austrian Social Scientists in Exile 1933-1945, which I presume were most Jewish. --
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Marcel, Austrians who fled included union activists, Socialists and Communists, Jehovah's Witnesses, gays, people of Romani background, Esperantists, and others:
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1990: “A review of ‘’Europe after an American Withdrawal Economic and Military Issues’’,” edited by Jane M. O. Sharp. Oxford Oxford University Press,
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1972: “The Quasi-system of World Society A Systemic Dynamic Analysis,”(Paper, AAAS Washington Meeting, Dec. 26-31
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1970: “General systems theory --structuralist or dynamic? A comment on Hornback's summary.” NIU. probably in
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How did Engelmann's parents survive WWII? An interesting example of a similar instance can be read in
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1981: with A. E. Cash, “The decline of power exercise at high interaction frequency levels,”
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1975: with John H. Engelmann, “Interaction frequency and behavior in the chemical laboratory,”
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1970: “Sorokin and the Sociology of Knowledge,” in G.C. Hallen and Rajeshwar Prasad (eds.)
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1957: "A Highly Significant Book," A review of Thomas Kuhn's The Copernican Revolution in:
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1977: with John H. Engelmann, “Case Law, Statute Law, and the Nature of Institutions,”
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1987: “The Flight from Ambiguity by Donald N. Levine,” A book review 65(3)895
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On internet I couldn't find the last publication mentioned in the article:
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1962: "Social Psychological Issues in the Theory of Social Organization," in:
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1967: with Kirby Throckmorton, "Interaction frequency and crime rates," in:
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1970: “The Demise of American Cities and the Burgeoning of Urban Studies,”
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1960: "The Activity Bias of Ethnography and the History of Society," in:
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I couldn't even find " Simudell Publishers". Could anybody explain? --
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1991: “A sociohistorical perspective for East European developments,”
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1971: “Twentieth century man and God: an historic perspective,”
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1962: "Class Succession and the Coming Struggle for Power," in:
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2002. Journey into a New Life. Carmel, IN, Simudell Publishers.
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