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As creator of this article, I strongly disagree. The sources from NCDC explicitly say that the rainfall and thunderstorms are from the "remnants of
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Since you don't have one source for the damage total, I suggest you don't use NCDC to cite the $ 50.477, but rather use the individual event reports to add up to the $ 50.477M. That is, cite the $ 100,000 in Ordway, and go into a bit more detail if you can. ♫
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765:transcluded
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2327:Thank you!
2196:Thank you
1829:California
1497:Not done.
718:Authorship
704:GA toolbox
543:California
533:California
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484:California
351:Assessment
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741:Templates
732:Reviewing
697:GA Review
169:Main Page
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746:Criteria
269:Tropical
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361:Alerts
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