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from the South African Network Society Project are strikingly different from the figures reported for South Africa by the International Telecommunications Union (ITU). The New Wave report says 34% of South Africans use the Internet in 2012, while the ITU reports 74.2% are using the Internet in 2011.
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I'm hoping to update the Statistics section of the article with more recent data and also add some references since the section is almost entirely unreferenced now. But with the differences between the New Wave report's figures and the figures from the ITU, I am at a loss on how to figure out what
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The political commentry remains, very odd. Perhaps mention of the early networks that preceeded the SA internet would be valuable. Also the move to commercial use of the internet was held back for quite a while and hobby users had access via UUCP and USENET gateways before the co.za domains came
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The stats quoted are now rather old. According to The New Wave report (2012) based on research conducted by Research ICT Africa and the South African Network Society project at University of Witwatersrand, 34% (12.3m) South African adults (age 15 and over) use the Internet. This is based on a
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Or the New Wave report says that 24% of households have a computer at home in 2012, while the ITU reports 69% in 2011. The New Wave reports 20% of households have Internet access from home in 2012, while the ITU reports 57.7% in 2011.
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I struggle to see why the political references are relevant. I think it suggests amateur authors or blatant advertising. I expected a more technical article as the comment above suggests.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not.
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Any ideas about why the figures are so different? Am I comparing apples to oranges or otherwise misunderstanding that the different figures represent?
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into use. My research has shown that BKSINC.co.za was the first commercial domain registered, the company still exists but have a new domain.
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I have added a bit of balance to the political commentry but I still think none of it is relevant to the page and should all be removed.
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Readers want to know more about the topology of SA networks including the function of Tier1 network providers such as Telkom SAIX etc.
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Statistics have not been updated since like 2016, where can we find these updated stats for 2021 and add update the page?
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article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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representative survey. See www.networksociety.co.za for more information. (Full disclosure: I wrote the report)
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to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
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history.internet.org.za was mentioned on the radio today so there may be extra people searching for information
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Fiber optic cable network infrastructure has not been updated since 2013, we need to try and update these
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It appears stats have not been updated for a while, where can we find the updated stats for 2021?
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I also fail to see the relevance of the political reference. Therefore, deletion is
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to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for
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for additional information. I made the following changes:
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in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of
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