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American tribes ended up in desertous areas, and I wonder how long it will take them to import some one humped dromedary or two humped Bactrian camels, like they already did for the Great Austalian desert? A camel can eat cactus and thorny bush, provide edible meat, and reliable transportation even if you don't have the money to buy a fancy car with bluetooth multimedia features and mini-dvd players on the backs of seats for rear passenger, unnecessary things when you're broke and starving, but without which it is becoming harder and harder to find a new car. By the way there are also some positives in coming of other people to this land, as the other poster says there used to be a lot of warring among the tribes, moreover a lot of them lived in tents, had no horses, and with all this European invasion did come some technological improvement and easier life, I know it's not consolation, just like the Romans used to justify their attack on their neighbors by saying them brought to them technology and good life, and they left the internal affairs alone, Pontius Pilate style of give the people what they want, and they only controlled foreign affairs of occupied people, and collected tax from them, but they also provided peace, government and military defense in exchange for that tax, but in the end almost all occupied people would have preferred being free of Roman domination. But there is always some good side to everything bad, even if you have to look hard for it.
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Yeah, that stood out for me too. OK, I'm white, but I have worked with
Indians (with the Forest Service) for a long time, and have heard both Indians and whites (on rare occasion) use "rez" as short-form for reservation, and it never raised an eyebrow. It's just inoffensive, casual slang, as far as
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Gambling is only covered in minute detail on Wiki, would anyone else be interested in expanding this area? I have content about how some tribes get rich at the expense of others. Also about how tribe members are being kicked out of the tribe because they can not "prove" their blood lines. I think
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I think they are also Semi-Tax Exempt, I know for a fact that The
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I'm not that familiar with the history of reservations, but I do know that many treaties made before The Indian Act of 1851 included provisions whereby tribes would keep or reserve specific areas within larger areas of land that they ceded to the U.S. This should probably be mentioned as a precedent
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I believe I know what you refer to when you say "technical term", but I will ask for a definition, as
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I removed that section. It doesn't belong in the overview. It uses the passive voice, is ambiguous (forced how? By whom?) and serves to evoke emotion by the statement "had lived there for thousands of years" at the outset (it is otherwise unnecessary to inform the reader at the overview how many
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I agree this needs expanding upon. As far as I understand it, every Indian, including those who reside in reservations, are full citizens of the United States and accordingly can vote. However, they are subject to more restrictions on behaviour than a "normal" citizen. Also, the reservations have a
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Reservations? Only interesting from the standpoint of someone researching MLK. His visit didn't have any noteworthy impact on Indian Reservations and
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It would be great if there could be more detail about what laws cover reservations (all federal? Some federal? State?), what taxes residents pay, what federal/state entitlements they get (social security?) etc. There is this very confusing and interesting gray area re the "sovereignty" of Indian
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This article needs to be rewritten from a non slanted point of view. It is now popular to consider
Indians as a whole who were "enslaved" by Europeans this is not so. The Navahoo stole land from the Hopi. Both the Aztec and Inca were notorious for going to war and taking land from weaker tribes.
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Sorry, I'm new to the editing pages, but should it be considered to change the article to Native American Reservation, since Indian Reservation would refer to people from India? I apologize of this is formatted incorrectly and please feel free to tell me how to correctly post suggestions.
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This article needs something on the Third World economic and health conditions on most reservations. Also, on the failed attempt (in the 1960s I think) to privatize reservations by subdividing the land and transferring ownership to individuals and the negative impact this had.
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I would like to add about five paragraphs and other references/links since the article does not develop the land tenure structure extant on Indian reservations under federal Indian law. Shall I proceed or wait until your larger project is further along? Thank you.
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As said, "reservation" is the common use, "Indian reservation" is just to differentiate reservations as land from other definitions. If this title is my neologism, place yourself on the opposite side of this discussion, what would you call this page?
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When I was looking for sources for statistics in the infobox, I realized that this can be an issue. Specifically, I found a source that claims the smallest reservation in the US is the Golden Hill Paugussetts reservation at ~1/4 sq. mile, (CT Mirror
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By using words like "Indians have lived their for thousands of years," it makes it seem that there is ONE Indian tribe and it was living peacefully. In reality there were thousands of tribes and many coluded with Europeans to get other Indian lands
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I'm pretty darn sure that many or most Native American tribes relocated in the 19th century practiced settled agriculture before any contact with Europeans and certainly by the time of their forced relocation, so I'm taking this out.
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sort of "quasi-sovereignty" whereby they hold jurisidiction over minor offences committed there. But if, for example, someone was murdered on a reservation then the federal authorities would intervene.
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What is the point of this header? Of course this doesn't represent a worldwide view, because it's us and Canada with reservations. I'd remove it but I know there'd be some idiotic uproar.
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Why is this not mentioned? The earliest reservations were far from ancestral home, and had to walk far, many many died on the way.
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