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One thing I wonder: is or was that ice sheet growth linear? So if the plane had been buried for another 50 years would it then have been buried 162 m deep? And I am assuming the ice sheet growth is slowing down or reversing due to climate change? I think the example adds a bit of confusion - at least
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In particular, I suspect that more-or-less the entirety of "Subglacial processes" section is going to be impenetrable to most readers. I am sure it can be condensed a lot, but I cannot think of a way right now. Moreover, it now seems like a lot of the material in that section is not actually specific
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Thanks for that. However, could we please re-insert the "definition" section? I think it's a nice, easily understandable way for lay person readers to find out what an ice sheet is. Starting the main text with "dynamics" is scary for lay persons. And it doesn't matter if the definition is already
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You probably know this but just putting it here so that it's not forgotten: The lead needs more content now, post-merge, to summarise the new section on "dynamics". It's also too short. I think it should be 450 to 500 words long, and summarise each of the main sections as best as possible.
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