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Mr. Xi Kwok Lam (Yip Man’s son’s student and movie producer of the Ip Man 3) apologized and served tea to Yuen Jo Tong for misreprensenting his grandfather Yuen Kay San’s reputation and status in Wing Chun history. (In the movie, Yuen Kay San was portrayed as Yip Man’s younger Kung Fu brother, not as
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As I said earlier, this is my first cinematic GA review. Thus, I have learned that plots don't need references. However, it seems on every GA-level film article, there are references within the casting section. You will need to adduce this section as such. One all-encompassing reference might work,
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Not only was the
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Yao Wing Ken (Yoa Choy’s grandson) explains that, "in the old days of Foshan, his grandfather Yao Choy, Yip Man and Yuen Kay San were called the "Three Heroes of Wing Chun" and often mentioned together. Yuen Kay San's disciple Leung Jan Sing also provided an ancestral document indicating that Yuen
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Lengendary death dual champion during 1920-1950s during a news conference in
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Interesting trivia or do you want the section renamed to Interesting trivia? Thanks
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