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Morocco, Canada, Panama, Senegal, Yemen, Belgium etc.. So basically not only the United States accuse Iran of supporting terrorists including Al Qaeda and
Taliban. There are many Al-Qaeda leaders inside Iran, and this is not opinion or theory they are official and facts and Iran played a role in 9/11 attacks, and it was accused by American government. Second, in Politics all what governments care about is there own good. Iran have a lot of common enemies with Al Qaeda like the United States and Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia have been targeted by Al-Qaeda and ISIS hundreds of times , it is really un logical to say that Saudi Arabia support ISIS and Al Qaeda while Saudi Arabia is a victim of there terrorism. However it is rare to see a terrorist attack in Iran committed by Al Qaeda and ISIS. The Question is why Al Qaeda, Taliban and ISIS never or rarely attack Iran. Third, about ideological differences if you think that is a prove that Iran does not support Al Qaeda than the United States also does not support terrorism because you know Americans have completely different ideology from terrorists . But that is not the case, for example communist China have supported jihadist in Afghanistan against communist soviets , china supported a group with completely different ideology against a group with the exact same ideology, why? Because it is politics, no body care about ideology, religion, race etc... all what they care about is there own interest. Another example is Iran support for Christian Armenia against Shitte Azerbijan, because Iran have more common interest with Armenia than Azerbiajan despite having common religion. So basically Iran can have a relation with Al Qaeda when this relations can be good for Iran's interest. American government accuse Iran to be behind 9/11 attacks, many Al Qaeda terrorists passed through Iran to do many terrorist attacks , and today Iran host major Al Qaeda leaders. Also Bin Laden documents found in Pakistan and Afghanistan prove its warm relations with Iran. Also Al Qaeda never launch a terrorist attack in Iran which mean that both sides have agreement with each other. Any way, this is not my opinion, it is clear evidence from several governments around the world. So please do not mention opinions or theories. And the information that were deleted were supported by numerous sources. I hope you Understand and I am ready to discuss this topic more if you want
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Taliban would never be supported by Shi'ite Iran as they on multiple occasions stated that Shia Iran is the enemy, they even engaged in terrorist attack against Iran and its citizens (i.e. the Taliban takeover of Mazar-i-Sharif in 1988 and the massacre that followed it). Iran gave US detailed maps in 2001 where to strike the Taliban forces to topple their ranks as clearly shown in this video
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Ugh! This article asserts, repeatedly, allegations that Iran (1) is holding senior alQaeda officials (still?, holding them at a
Holiday Inn?) as evidence of collusion, (2) presents a series of US Judicial rulings based on unclear evidence, (3) conflates revolutionary/anti-state actions with terrorism
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First of all, Iran support for Al-Qaeda and
Taliban is NOT "US propaganda". Iran is accused by Afghan government to supply Taliban with weapons. Also Iran is accused of supporting terrorism by: Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Egypt, Bahrain, Israel, Argentina, India, Thailand, Kenya, Somalia,
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It is annoying to see that half of this article is dedicated to blaming what AQ/Taliban has done on Iran. Iran's government has done many wrong things (particularly in 80's), and Iran's borders are not "AQ" tight so some AQ or
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Half of this article is a nonsense. Although Iran do sponsors Shia militias (including those in Iraq and
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I just tagged this article for a lack of NPOV. This is not because I am disputing the material that is in here, but rather for a lack of balance in what has been chosen to be placed in the article. For instance, several other articles about state terrorism give the rationale of the country carrying
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The sourcing is appalling. It is also false that Iran supported the
Taliban. Actually the Taliban murdered many Iranian diplomats when it took over Afghanistan, and Iran provided the US with intelligence against the Taliban when the US invaded. Much of what is in the article is just US propaganda.
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provides an article that makes the claim of a report concerning this event, but the sources they site don't seem to mention it at all. Maybe someone more able than me can track down something in the news from 1995. As it is, the wiki page (as quoted above) is stating something with certainty, but
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It's back in again. I still don't think it makes sense to include it. The US Treasury is not perhaps the most reliable source we could have, especially given the persistent US sabre-rattling at Iran, and the following section which is well cited is an entirely overweight restatement of material
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Actually it is the responsibility of editors who want material in the article to be sure it is supported by the sources. I'll refer to the claim "Ansar Allah, a
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