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2365:"ISIS claims Charleroi's attack" ("l'État islamique revendique l'attaque de Charleroi"); le premier ministre Charles Michel a indiquĂ© qu'une enquĂȘte a Ă©tĂ© ouverte par la justice belge pour «tentative d'assassinat terroriste».); "The Prime minister Charles Michel has indicated an inquiry has been open by Belgian justice for "terroris assasination attempt". The Prime Minister has stated that "a certain number of elements have appeared immediately" to justify the type of this inquiry including the fact that the perpetrator had shoulted "Allah Akbar" ("le premier ministre Charles Michel a indiquĂ© qu'une enquĂȘte a Ă©tĂ© ouverte par la justice belge pour «tentative d'assassinat terroriste». Le premier ministre a Ă©voquĂ© «qu'un certain nombre d'Ă©lĂ©ments sont apparus immĂ©diatement» pour justifier le caractĂšre de cette enquĂȘte dont le fait que l'assaillant avait criĂ© «Allah akbar».") 3414:
should identify them as Islamic or that we shouldn't differentiate between Islam and Islamism, it is necessary to make the distinction. The mass murderer in Norway claimed he was a Christian Crusader, that doesn't mean we should identify his attack as an act of a Christian crusade when it's clear that he was attacking in support of far-right politics. Because it was clear, editors identified it that way, and we should do the same. These terrorists are acting as Islamists in support of Islamist causes. They were Muslims and Islamism is a part of Islam and there's no question about that, but the point is that as Wikipedians we need to be as accurate as possible in our article titles. Islamist is the most accurate description and as such I believe it should be changed to that. -
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cited. None of the information which was re-added by the I.P. did this and as such was unverified, and the sources were not meeting the criteria as good sources. I strongly invite an actual reading of the courses and a reading of the previous discussion on this topic. There is also some information which is included in this article which has no source at all. I suggest reading the sources before simply stating 'there are sources and X is in the wrong,' I would also like to point out this is not the place to make person direct attacks on the Good faith editing of another user. I have a talk page talk on there. This is highly inappropriate.
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does not say it is not terrorism. The only evidence of motive is what the attacker expressed-- which was an Islamic slogan. You can't possibly ask for more than that. One user is not unilaterally declaring anything, this list was made by many people, and information was added by multiple people since the article was unlocked. You are the one unilaterally doing anything. This is not BLP- you cannot just take out things which you have a hunch about. That is not how WP works. Your behavior on this article is and has been vandalism. You have been warned many times by many parties. Please talk before you delete. Please.
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really strong or encyclopedic. The idea that we should label it Islamic rather than Islamist because the terrorists say they are Islamic doesn't make sense because we aren't here to serve their political agenda, we're here to make the most accurate entries in an encyclopedia, and as they are Islamists, we should label them that way. The other argument that Islam and Islamism are essentially the same thing seems to be more of a political argument based in opinions on Islam and it doesn't seem very valid as far as I see. Islamist, a subset of Islamic, is the most accurate term and we should use it. -
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not be an Islamist, for example a Muslim who commits an act of terror to further a political goal unrelated to fundamentalist Islam, like secessionism or far left/right causes. Therefore an article about Islamic terror would actually be a catalogue of ALL acts of terror committed by Muslims or by anyone taking any inspiration from Islamic culture or Koranic scripture. Simply as a matter of definition and logic, the correct name for an article cataloguing terror attacks inspired by fundamentalist interpretations of Islam must be "Islamist".
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goings on, are not terrorist events. Domestic situations between neighbours, are also not terrorism. Attacks by individuals who are mentally ill are not terrorism, attacks by individuals on police are also not terrorism, as these could very easily be a dislike of the police, and the same goes for the military. There needs to be a strong evidence base for inclusion or it is part of the multitude of problems listed above.
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hunch, that is tosh. You need to add with reliable source third party material, not weak flimsy single sourced breaking news reports. OR and Synthesis are not the same OR is saying x is y when it is not, or saying look I did this research and this is what X is. Synthesis is X = y there for y always is x instead of x=x and y=y. Synthesis is adding sources together to come up with a third thing in neither source.
2446:. If police are treating the incident as Islamic terrorism, we should say that, if ISIL claim responsibility but police doubt it, we should say it, if people are found guilty of terrorist offences ditto. At present there is a 'one size fits all approach' that seems more interested in projecting a super-heated PoV than actually supplying a balanced account of a complex situation in which some incidents 1651:
should reach a consensus. At the very least, you NEED to reach a consensus when it becomes clear that multiple editors take issue with you taking out sourced material multiple times, lest it becomes an edit war. The information IS sourced. If there is a reliable source linking an attack to Islamic terrorism, it should be included on this list. The standards are not that high. This is not BLP.
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what much of WP is sourced by. If you want to get consensus start an RfC or something-- but don't keep deleting SOURCED content that multiple editors have contributed. You are blanking sourced content repeatedly and are being reverted by different editors. So please, try to go through the proper channels. We can't censor wikipedia because you think news outlets are not reliable sources.
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are, members, followers, or supporters of Islamist groups who were inspired or ordered by those groups to carry out attacks. Islamist is simply a more accurate term overall rather than Islamic which seems to be too broad. Specificity is important in an encyclopedia and we should care about it. Along with what I had to say about that, i'd just like to remind people that
3278:, not anything else. Having Islamist Terrorism isn't going to cause people to somehow have more politically correct views on the subject. It is a difference without significance. Other than, of course, sounding more awkward and clouding the topic. At wikipedia we should print the facts we shouldn't worry about whether Islamic terrorism is potentially slightly offense. 1690:
made. Having a source which has a reliable creator does not make the source reliable, The BBC is a reliable source, but if an article from the BBC is about football, but is being use to try to verify a claim of terrorism, that is not a verifiable source, and the claim is not reliable or verified, and must be removed, as the source is meaningless and worthless.
2311:"Assasination attempt linked to a terrorist attempt" (« Tentative d'assassinat en lien avec une entreprise terroriste »); "In suspect's luggage, policemen have also found a video of 40 seconds including ISIS flag" ("Dans les bagages du suspect, les policiers ont aussi trouvé une vidéo d'une quarantaine de secondes, comportant le drapeau de l'Etat islamique") 1494:, the paper specifically says "No other details, including the pair's possible motive, were immediately available", no indication of prosecution or later release by police, 'concealed' isn't even in the source and of course no mention of terrorism. I've removed dozens of terrible speculative entries like this and simply got bored with doing so. 1791:. Also please be aware that multiple editors have removed different events from this article. If there is a belief that incidents should be included make an edit request and provide sources, which from what is being said for the events listed in the comments previous to this, should not prove challenging. Always remember to 2429:
conclude that a final message from Masood to an acquantaince in which Masood speaks of 'jihad' must mean that the act was terrorist, even though we know very well that 'jihad' means something very different to western journalists and readers. This kind of 'leap of logic' is the problem throughout the topic area IMO.
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claim Franco's Spain and Petain's France were "not real Catholics", it is frankly farcical to claim that these people are not Islamic. Who knows best what is Islamic? Militant adherents to that very creed or bourgeois liberal observers haphazardly trying to manage the embarrassing fallout from such attacks?
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My belief behind changing the article title from Islamic to Islamist is that it is more accurate rather than broad. It isn't a political argument but rather an encyclopedic one. Despite some editors suggesting that it is political correctness or that because they identify as such and because that, we
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I am not here to go phishing for sources, the burden is on the original added to ensure it is in compliance, and not to dump wild information on the page and go "Hey, other people, do what I was supposed to do in the first place". Stop demanding it be done of the editors challenging the inclusion of
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But a reliable news source IS a reliable source according to WP. On WP we rely on news sources for information on items like terrorist attacks. There are not books on these attacks just yet. It is not clearly shown. The information is sourced and to take out a LARGE amount of SOURCED information, you
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17 September 2015 Simply being a terrorist does not make everything done by the individual terrorism, an attack on a police officer, does not instantly make the incident terrorism, independent, verifiable, third party sources must state it is. Phrasing such as "suggested a possible connection" is not
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A man drove into soldiers outside a mosque, reportedly while chanting "Allahu Akbar" (Allah is the greatest). He then put his car into reverse to try to ram the soldiers again who fired warning shots and then fired to disable the driver. The driver said he wanted to kill troops because "troops killed
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The attacks which were removed contained NO ORIGINAL RESEARCH. The Bosnia attack was sourced from Reuters and has its own WP article. You cannot remove attacks without reason or on a hunch. This is why the page was locked for a week. Please keep everything in until there is some sort of consensus to
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Depends how you define democracy; the DPRK's claims to representing the interests of the majority are far less cynical than Western oligarchies who market themselves as "democratic", while fielding candidates from two tightly controlled parties beholden to special interests. Just as we do not try to
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Continually citing to this discussion as if it proves any kind of consensus does not make sense. I see maybe one person that agrees with you (Pincrete). There are people who disagree, but no one who strongly supports taking out swathes of information. It is sourced by reliable news outlets, which is
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The argument is not that they are "not Islamic" or "not real Muslims", we're not here to discuss politics and we're not politicians, it's an argument over whether Islamist is more accurate than Islamic. Islamist, a subset of Islamic is more accurate because it is labeling the attackers as what they
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What they call themselves shouldn't determine what the title is, what they actually specifically are is what should determine what the title is. They are Islamists and as such we should call the wave of terror that, it's not a political issue, it's an encyclopedic issue. Also as to your examples of
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with poorly sourced or non-terror entries. Some of these are valid removal suggestions, some aren't. She also started a discussion about the scope of this article. Today she began removing almost all of the entries despite that no consensus had been reached and completely ignored his original list.
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This is circular. All of the cited attacks have articles, with many sources. The job of a list is not to provide all the information on an event, just to direct you to a place where you can learn more. 1 source is enough for inclusion on a list- many other sources are available. And no, the source
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Have a look at Wiktionary's own definitions of the two words. "Islamic" means pertaining to or deriving from the religion of Islam or its Muslim adherents. "Islamist" has many meanings, the most relevant here being that relating to fundamentalism in Islam. A Muslim who commits an act of terror may
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The article I know well is 'Westminster'. First of all I do not dispute for one second that 'Westminster' is almost certainly Islamic terrorism, both police and Th. May have so described it. However the 'Indy' source offered above does not mention the term at all or any synonym. We are supposed to
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Please contribute to reach a consensus on how to edit, so far policy has been raised which are the pillars of wikipedia, including verifiability of the information. It is not a blanket do not include anything, it is an only include that which meets the standards on Knowledge. Single sources do not
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Knowledge works by showing that inclusion is warranted, and not that inclusion is not warranted. The removed events are examples of the issues which are contained in the above. One Imam being stabbed is not terrorism, events with the description of 'alleged' links to terrorism, and internal prison
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The citations have clearly not been read, please see the above previous discussion which clearly laid out all of the errors in the citations, simply having a citation does not equal verification of the information being put forward the information must actually reflect the sources which are being
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The Bosnia attack is not terrorism, the source explicitly does not say it is terrorism, and saying it is such is OR. The tags appear to have a consensus which is saying they are more than justified, it is not for one user to unilaterally declare that they are not. Also stating cannot remove on a
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listed here. There was no chance improving the sourcing or discussing them. That is what me personal irritates the most. None of the examples I listed here were listed in your original list of 17 questionable entries. Except the Safia S. stabbing, which you removed despite posting a valid source
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3. It our all job. So if you find questionable sourced entries, please mark them (as you did) or post them here if there is a reason for discussion. Besides that you didn't wait long enough to give people a chance to respond to the entries up for discussion you deleted much more entries than you
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The content of the sources needs to back up what is being claimed, if the content does not reflect what is being claimed or is only speculative, then it is not verifying the claims being made. It can be from a reliable outlet in and of itself, but it is may not verifying the claim which is being
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As we seem to have to say again and again, it isn't about political correctness, hurt feelings, or some agenda as much as some of you would like to believe, it's about accuracy. Islamist is a more accurate term than Islamic, and almost all the arguments i've seen so far against the move are not
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2] When the ones committing the attacks themselves call themselves Islamic, then what exactly gives us the authority to contradict them? And if we are to dispute them, we can do so only through the evidence in the doctrine, which if we try, we will all reach the conclusion that it is erroneous,
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Since the German-Moroccan teen Safia S. assaulted a policeman with a knife in February, federal prosecutors and investigators in Germany have been trying to determine if the stabbing was an act of terrorism. New evidence could prove that the attack was not only inspired by the militant "Islamic
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That is the wrong way round, it must have sources for inclusion which are verifiable and reliable. The events removed did not contain this kind of reliable third part sourcing. The burden on inclusion is that information must be reliably and independently sourced from a third party, convey the
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This article is specifically for the rise in islamic terror attacks in combination with the rise of ISIL. This is not a general list of violent attacks in europe. So the title clearly describes what it is about. Why choose a more "neutral" title if all attacks listed are related to Islamism?
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are unquestionably ISIL terrorism and then a sliding scale in which it is difficult to see whether/to what extent other incidents are 'copy-cat', ultimately down to some incidents, such as those involving the long-term mentally ill, which are certainly, demonstrably NOT any kind of terrorism
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11 January 2016, sources do not confirm self-aggrandising claims of the assailant. self-proclamation of being a terrorist does not make one a terrorist, or incident they do terrorism. Terrorist links and the act being actual terrorism, must be independently verified by reliable third party
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There is inclusion on this list of items, which are not terrorism. These items, are just crimes, or incidents, with no actual proven link to terrorism. Some of the items listed are also not notable and are just news reporting of events. This fails a number of wikipedia standards on
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A prisoner in a radicalization prevention unit named Bilal Taghi wounded two prison officers. The detainee first assaulted a supervisor with an artisanal weapon. A second supervisor, posted at the entrance to the exercise yard, was also wounded when he tried to help his colleague.
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I don't understand how saying "Allah akbar" does not make the attack related to Islamic terrorism. Obviously the attacker intended for it to be an Islamic attack, what other source for motivation can there be other than the statements of the attacker? A BBC article confirming it?
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not an Islamic terror attack? The article even lists ISIL as perpetrator. Why did remove all entries before reaching consensus here? I admit that the list contained a handful of ordinary crimes. But this is no reason to remove most of the entries that are valid terror attacks.
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Getting back to the discussion at hand, I welcome seeing the sources proving the information being asserted, please also feel free to make an edit request to have these events re-inserted if you believe they fulfill the policies and guidelines for inclusion on Wikiepdia.
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18–19 November 2015 "Phrasing in sources which is "too early to say whether the attack was an act of terrorism or simply murder." do not confirm that an attack is terrorism, sources confirming the incident as terrorism, must be provided. claiming it is without sources is
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is synonymous with 'Irish terrorism'. Secondly 'Islamist' is not the term being used by most authorities and RS, even though it might be ideologically more precise. This list IMO has gigantic PoV problems, mostly to do with not having any clear criteria for inclusion
3867:. The claim was repeated all around the world while official news was thin. When the full story finally came out, David Sonboly was probably a right-wing copy-cat trying to kill Muslim immigrants and the witness or reporter were either mistaken, or inventing news, 2738:- those who are carrying out the attacks call themselves Islamic, not Islamist. For instance it is the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, not the Islamist State of Iraq and the Levant. Similarly, in reference to their historical predecessors, we refer to the 3028:
1] What exactly are the intentions of the ones trying to gloss over the fact that Islamic terrorism is Islamic? Dubious. Any person with even a little regard for the truth, would consider it unfathomable to even think about labelling them - Islamist, and not
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With respect of the Sikh event, the article nowhere in the main body of the text says it is terrorism, it only says 'was thought to be religiously motivated', that does not confirm that the event is terrorism, saying it is so does not reflect the source.
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and all of its predecessors. Anyway, if there are cases in this list, which are not labeled "terrorism" by reliable external sources, feel free to remove them. But your personal interpretation alone, of what "terrorism" is, is not enough to do so
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I'm broadly with Arcadius Romanus here, whilst I agree with most of the comments by Sport and politics in the list further up the page, and agree with her and others that say the general quality and use of sources in this list is appalling,
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Not every person shouting when committing a crime is an act of terrorism, and saying so misses the point of what is and is not terrorism. For Knowledge this needs to be through the use of verified and reliable sources supporting that claim.
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information being put forward, not the other way round. Also stating what another user should be doing is missing the point on this page. This page is not meeting the standards and the information on this page is what is being challenged.
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I27 April 2015 slamist event in a country with inter-ethnic conflict does not equate to terrorism, also fails synthesis as the source does not confirm terrorism, one opinion of an official is not a confirmation. Multiple sources are
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is a neutral as well as accurate description of the wave of terrorism while Islamic isn't and "Wave of Terror" appears to differ too much from general MoS when it comes to the naming of articles relating to events such as these. -
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is a specific political ideology, "Islamic" simply means "relating to Islam". The ideology may be inspired by the religion but that doesn't mean it's part of the religion. Calling it "Islamic terrorism" is as misleading as calling
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if only for a short while to make the discussion easier. Also as to those incidents which were removed, they were re-added by an IP user with the necessary citations and should not have been deleted again by Sports and Politics. -
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A member of the French military was left in a "serious condition" after being attacked with knives. He was approached by two men who "have criticized the French bombing in Syria." He was then beaten with fists and beaten cutter.
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those conquests, they were indeed Muslim conquests, but they were during the time of Abu Bakr, as in the 7th century, right when Islam was founded and was a cohesive group, not 1400 years later when it is what it is today. -
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19 April 2015 - mere allegation of an unsuccessful incident, no link to terrorism shown, and there was no success in the event, so that is not terrorism, trying and failing does not count simple failing under not news, and
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Alleged unsuccessful plan to attack two churches in Villejuif by an Algerian who was alleged to have killed a woman when trying to steal her car but accidentally shot himself in the leg. He was arrested by French police.
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take out specific attacks. Further, the tagging IS EXCESSIVE. OR and Synthesis are the same thing in this instance, and the article is not out of date. Spamming tags to show you do not like an article is not good faith.
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its the other way round, poorly sourced material and material without sourcing should be removed from Wikipeida, and only replaced when proper accurate sourcing can be found verifying the information being forwarded.
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I disagree, we can (and are only allowed) to include incidents that RS call Islamic terror (or insurgency or whatever), we cannot decide that just because the Mr Winston Bin'dogo commits a crime it is part of some
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per EvergreenFir, Islamist is a lot more accurate than Islamic. Should also be moved because the current title was opposed in an RfC but was then moved independently and without consensus by another user. -
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3] To label them Islamist, is to force-create a separate category, in which to dump them, thereby distracting from the true nature of the issue, and thus is unscrupulous, wrong, and indeed, deceitful.
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4 September 2016, only user comments mention terrorism, simply taking place in a prison anti-radicalisation unit does not make an incident terrorism, this is not a news site and synthesis is not allowed
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Agree the sourcing isn't good. There are some German sources that mention that according to the police the perpetrators were part of a jihadi network and that call it a terror attack or salafi attack.
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and please also provide quotations from the relevant articles (English and non-English (with translations in to English)) which verify specifically the claims in the article, in order to avoid
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One of the best and most common ways to make good lists on Knowledge is to use lists made by secondary sources as references themselves. Examples of some such references are these articles by
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A policeman was wounded in an attack in a police station, the assailant, Abderrahmane Amara, was arrested by other police. He tried to kill the policeman because "He represents France".
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and per other comments. My Islamic friends and colleagues are as disgusted with the actions of Ismlamist terrorists as Irish republicans were with the actions of the self-proclaimed
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amount to verifiable or reliable. Sources must reflect the information being out forward and asserted and in this instance it has been very clearly shown that this is not the case.
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It's essentially the same thing, and changing the one word wouldn't make any significant difference. Compared to other discussions about changing the name of an article I've seen.
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that confirms the ISIL connection (she got convicted for supporting a terror group (ISIL)). Which brings me to the next point. It seems that you don't if someone improves a source.
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26 February 2016 Sources do not confirm the event was terrorism, only "suspected" and "may have been" and "under suspicion" none of which is a confirmation, and fails Not News.
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4. You always claim that the removal was agreed to in the discussion, where? Please point to the discussion. There is a discussion about your list, but it was mostly you,
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Its easier to just get on with editing and constructive discussion, as opposed to commenting on contributors. If there is a wish to talk to me personally please do so on
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These events have now been up here a while and nothing verifiable has been added, it is time to take these events out, it has not been shown these events are terrorism.
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Calm down and relax, this is not the place to hurl accusations of vendettas, and other such wild and unfounded emotive claims which are ad homenim. Remain
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ISIL claimed responsibility for a stabbing attack that left a 16-year-old dead. Police are investigating possible terror links but consider them unlikely.
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I have added a Guardian link with a title 'Police unravel multiple aliases of Westminster terrorist Khalid Masood' which is clearly mentioning terrorism.
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19 August 2016 simply shouting slogans does not make terrorism, this must be shown by multiple reliable third party sources, this is again just news.
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This article and wikipedia is not a mass repository of events, and inclusion must meet Knowledge standards, listing all and sundry must be avoided.
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Sorry, I don't buy the proposition that the present title is PoV-pushing anymore than I would buy the proposition that readers think that 'Irish',
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An attacker shot dead two soldiers in a betting shop and opened fire on a bus. He later killed himself with a bomb after being cornered by police.
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There is little chance of a consensus for a move. It'll have to stay where it is, because it's been stable at this title for quite some time. (
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/last-message-left-by-westminster-attacker-khalid-masood-uncovered-by-security-agencies-a7706561.html
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http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2016/08/06/01003-20160806ARTFIG00130-belgique-deux-policieres-attaquees-a-l-arme-blanche-a-charleroi.php
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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A man was arrested after he tried to assault police officers with a machete while shouting "Allahu Akbar". The man was a self-proclaimed
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The 'Zvornik' article makes clear that the motive is HIGHLY disputed, but the text here phrases it as a certainty. The 'Brussels 2017'
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An asylum seeker wielding a knife and a fake bomb vest shouted "Allahu Akbar" outside a police station. He was shot dead by police.
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The only evidence of motive is what the attacker expressed-- which was an Islamic slogan. You can't possibly ask for more than that.
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The only evidence of motive is what the attacker expressed-- which was an Islamic slogan. You can't possibly ask for more than that.
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A federal policeman was critically injured by a stabbing attack by 15-year-old girl "Safia S". The attack would later be linked to
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to be following Islamic teaching is irrelevant, as the overwhelming majority of adherents of the religion take a different view.
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An Iraqi citizen, identified only as Rafik Y, stabbed a German policewoman in the neck and was then shot dead by another officer.
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Some of these have poor sourcing. Just mark them. If sourcing is not improved in the next weeks we can talk about deleting them.
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Note for 21 July: I have sources to add where tags "citation needed" have been added in Counter-terrorism operations section.
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I've fully protected this article for 1 month, as there is way too much reverting and not enough discussion. Talk it out --
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and edit warring isn't. That being said it still needs to stop, everyone involved in the dispute should probably breathe and
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/23/westminster-attack-police-arrest-seven-people-in-raids-at-six-addresses
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on the grounds that a pariah Islamist group like ISIL uses the word "Islamic" in their official name makes no sense.
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A an ISIL supporter tried to stab two police officers; she was admitted to a psychiatric hospital after the attack.
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I've closed the requested move discussion, so the template at the top of the article can be removed. The line is:
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I shall go through by date in order why the incidents all fail inclusion on Knowledge. The majority fail on
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articles on the grounds that they're "basically the same", we need to be consistent with article names.
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A man carrying a Quran and two handguns concealed in a bag, and a female accomplice were arrested near
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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
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in the 70s to the 90s. Edit to add: a move would also bring this article in line with, for example,
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Wave of terror was one of the previous names of the article but consensus decided to move it to
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Agree about Sikh bombing, this is much more a 'hate crime', but neither term is used in source.
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27 September 2016 Sources do not mention terrorism, and the required sources must be provided.
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and I. Not one person agreed with you removing even just these 17. The discussion about the
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7 January 2016 Article on subject explicitly denies links to terrorist cells and terrorism.
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anything constructive to add to the discussion? or just more terseness and hollowness?
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exist to draw attention and ensure that more editors mediate or comment on the dispute.
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unethical and not to mention, dishonest, to label them as - Islamist, and not Islamic
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No need for personal insults. Just want to assure this article is not blanked again.
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State" (IS) group, but that Safia S. may have received direct orders to carry it out
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raised the valid issue that some of the entries in list are not related to terror.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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and any of the other sourcing issues previously mentioned in this talk page.
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Please ensure that the sources which are not in english comply with
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I look forward to seeing you add move discussions on those pages.
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shot three officers at a police station before being killed.
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a confirmation that the incident is a terrorist incident.
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