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in the UK and I happen to feel rather sympathetic to them. There is no doubt this is to the article's disadvantage. I may well try emailing whoever when the article is settled since they might well think a graphically improved article is to their benefit. I see MOTCO being responsive to some webmasters asking permission.
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Yes, I'm sure you are right. The person replying asked who I was and what my objectives were so perhaps they didn't know about
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appear to come from different sources. As for the particular choice, my own preference would be to avoid the rural fringes but rather to show the densely settled urban centre, and to include at least one large building with a distinctive ground plan. Several of your suggestions meet those criteria,
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I had also been wanting a lead image and have at last created one. I have only just come to this talk page to see great minds thinking alike. I think I have substantially finished now so please edit away as you like. I have been avoiding MOTCO images because I guess their work may well be copyright
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This fine article doesn't seem to need much help but, when I was in the Museum of London recently for the Lord Mayor's
Gresham lecture, I noticed that their shop had lots of good material about this and other maps of London, such as the CD of the map produced by MotCo. I had to restrain myself but
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I would like to echo this plea for a good lead image, although I would have thought that what was wanted was a cropped detail reproduced at sufficiently large a scale for the newcomer to get a sense of the depth of detail within the map – something like this. The choice, however, should clearly be
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Strictly speaking, neither of these is a map of "London", whether in the modern sense of
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An exact survey of the city's of London and
Westminster, ye borough of Southwark and the country near ten miles round : begun in 1741, finished in 1745, and published in 1746, according to act of Parliament / by John Rocque ; engrav'd by Richard Parr and printed by W.
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I have just added the other 1746 Map of London by M. Rocque. The current title encapsulates both maps, as it is not specific enough to refer to one or the other.
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