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knowledge? This article is a important piece of gaming history, so leave it be. If you don't like its inclusion in
Knowledge (XXG), then go read some other Knowledge (XXG) article. This article doesn't require any third party sources. Just because a journalist writes a news article about a game doesn't make the source any more authoritative than an article by a kid who's played it for hundred's of hours. Knowledge (XXG) should include human KNOWLEDGE, and KNOWLEDGE should not be monopolized by those who have access to a printing press, people with high falooting credentials, or bloated reputations. I do hold a PhD, and anyone with a similar degree should know how limited their knowledge really is. I could easily lend my credentials to third party article about this game, but why would I when I can just edit the Knowledge (XXG) article, although I don't anymore because of the Nazi editors. - RL
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an ASIAN kid with pimples all over his face working at the fake Mc.Donalds chain. In the subsequent "printing" of the game on 3.5 (version 1.1) as well as all the newer multi-media versions that were released on CD instead had a white teenager with pimples all over his face. Thought that was kind of funny. Since Al
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Hahahah... Ok, seriously. I know you guys are probably thinking, what the heck? Ok, I was born in the late 70s, so I grew up playing these games. The first version of this game that I got came on 3.5" floppies. It was hte INITIAL release of Jones in the Fast Lane. The original release of the game had
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is the game is notable for its pioneering use of graphics, a cash economy and boardgame interface, and that references probably exist in videogame research texts ad historical works to support this. Regrettably, the current article references don't quite cut it. The absence of online sources reflect
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I replaced the listing of "Life" with "Careers". Life is a very linear game, which ends when the players reach a definite end. I replaced it with
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Just wondering if anyone happens to know any easter eggs or cheats for this game? I play it on the odd occasion, have been for a decade, I decided to play a game of it tonight and happened to win $ 5000 from the lottery ticket :-O
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