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Talk:Jordan Geller/GA1

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Yea, I had a feeling a reviewer is not gonna like the Sneaker News ref. But I tried my best to only use it for ABOUTSELF reasons vis-a-vis Geller. I managed to remove all four Sneaker News ref. I wasn't able to find a better source for the "$ 10 million" sales, so I removed it
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interview probably isn't reliable for the Wikivoice statement that he made $ 10 million. I'd recommend avoiding the use of the source where possible. Obviously, there's been little-to-no community discussion on the source (at least from what I could find), but seeing as there
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As a heads up, this is going to be updated in chunks; there over eighty references to go through, so it will take me a while to look through each one to evaluate the extent to which the statements made in the article are backed up by the text of those sources. โ€”
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On my first read through, this article appears to cover all the main aspects of this individual well. A quick google search doesn't alert me to anything that's obviously missing, though there appear to be quite a few people in the news that share his name. โ€”
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Not a problem! Just as a heads up, it is probably going to take me at least the next 24 hours to finish filling out the table. Iโ€™m only about halfway through the references at this point and I still need to do a thorough check for spelling/grammar/style. โ€”
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While the newspaper reports that there's an idea to sell off all the inventory to make the collection, I'm not sure the source is writing that Geller's primary motivation in doing so was to show Nike who he was, so to speak. This could lumped under the
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doesn't give me confidence that it has good editorial control (it seems like there might be quite a bit of churnalism going on based upon a quick look through the website). You don't need to use this source when referencing his degrees
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feels like stringing a bunch of primary sources together. In general, I don't like these sorts of sentence formulations (it allows for listing of basically everyone who's made a comment and that can turn into
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The article doesn't currently state explicitly what the name of his favorite sneakers are; if someone doesn't have knowledge of U.S. Basketball or the sneaker market, they might not know that this refers to
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Images are relevant to the topic. The vast majority show the impressive collection, which seems to be apt given that this is the reason for the subject's notability. All photos are suitably captioned. โ€”
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All images are tagged with copyright status on Commons; it appears to me that all of the image license tags are correct after looking through them. No images appear to be fair use, so all checks out. โ€”
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as a child, deeming them too expensive, so he acquired his first pair of Air Jordans while in college for $ 125." I could write: "Geller's name is coincidentally close to basketball player
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and then accepting his explanation of his motivation as wholly truthful. It's probably better to attribute Geller's reason for moving to his words; something along the lines of
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claim to be using Geller's own words for. It's certainly reliable for the notion that Geller said what he said, but I wouldn't be quite comfortable with putting it in WikiVoice.
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pretty quick), but in this case I think that it's restrained enough. It would probably be better to specify which source went with which list, rather than doing this
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criterion as well, though I'm going to leave it here because I think that the inline cite doesn't support the text currently in the article rather than this being a
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I'm not sure if I entirely agree that's an OR/SNYTH statement. But, out of an abundance of caution, I removed the "in order to "show Nike who they'd banned"" part.
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Geller and the ShoeZeum were included on lists of "wild," "weirdest," or "most ridiculous" world records by CBS News, Reuters, Business Insider, and BuzzFeed News
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Geller decided to sell off his inventory and use the money to "curate the world's greatest sneaker collection" in order to "show Nike who they'd banned"
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check; the tool flags more or less only direct quotations of a person speaking as potential copyright violation, so I see no need to worry here. โ€”
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works fine there), but the part where it's used to verify the $ 10 million in sales seems to not be the most appropriate use of at what's best an
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be mainstream sources for this kind of thing if it's notable I don't see this as a huge burden towards getting over the line. It's also a
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Geller's name is coincidentally close to basketball player Michael Jordan, who is also the namesake of Geller's favorite sneakers.
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would be a better alternative that renders the source clearly reliable for the claim being put into the Knowledge (XXG) article.
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The reason given in the article for Geller's moving the museum to Vegas appears to arise from taking a quote of Geller's from
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unworn set" (emphasis added). Similarly, the claim in the Knowledge (XXG) article should probably hedge in a similar way.
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On my first read through, the article seems to be focused on the article subject without being overly detailed. โ€”
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I mean I see your point but the sentence right before states: "Geller's parents refused to purchase him any
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There's a statement in the article that 67 business executives visited Geller's museum. It's sourced to
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Out of the twelve Moon Shoes in existence, Geller's pair were the only ones that have never been worn
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interview, for which extra caution needs to be used in BLPs. If you'd like a source that isn't an
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There are no recent edit wars nor massive expansions to the article content. โ€”
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This indeed contains a reference list that is properly laid out. โ€”
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On my first read through, it appears that this article follows
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I'll take a look; this has been pending for way too long. โ€”
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All of the issues I've found are resolved. This is a GA. โ€”
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for the size of the warehouse, it's probably fine from an
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hedges with "is said to be" and CNN hedges with "only
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