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such as this a lot of people still whine about them. I would recommend against including that final bit in his article. Perhaps a section demonstrating his personality/attitude (including his "defiant nature") would be better, where three or four lines from Jazz from the movie are included, but the last words, no so much. Really, that's the best justfication I can give right now.
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Because what's "generally" important is subjective and not required for an entry into an encyclopedia. Jazz was defiant but, by definition, so were all of the
Autobots for fighting against the Decepticons in general. The quote doesn't do anything but emphasize the "coolness" factor of his death and
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It has always been pretty apparent, but even more so with a recognizable (and the only) african-american voice actor behind him that JAZZ is to-be inferred as the
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While I won't be actively adding or removing lines from this article (I have enough "pet" articles to keep me busy), I was asked for thoughts and so I'll weigh in on this. This includes a little personal opinion. The final words spoken by a major character may be significant to the character's
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to emphasize the traits of a character before his or her death. Again, you can just as easily assess Jazz's personality by his first words ("What's up, bitches?"), Ironhide by his first words ("You feel lucky, punk?") or any other character. In essence, I'm saying that this is not
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Animated and Shattered Glass Jazz. WE have had this talk before and for an article about several characters who share a name, at least one picture per character is justified.
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What is the policy of
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If there's no further argument, I'll take out the unnecessary information again. If you have any other reasons why you think it should be kept in, please respond here. If you don't, I'll take it as a concession and go ahead and edit the page.
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His death is very different in various situations, one he died by his spark pulled out of his chest, two he got stabbed by Devastator and three his movie death is done by ripping his arm off.(
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