1023:; even with 100% of the proportional vote you'd have only 176 proportional seats. And while the proportional election is crucial to Communists and KĆmeitists, what is of primary interest on first approach: Who wins a majority and forms a government? And under normal circumstances, the majoritarian election of 289 members decides that question. Only if it the FPTP tier produces a more or less even result, the PR tier may tip the balance. But in the last four consecutive elections, the winning party won more than 40% of the vote and more than 200 seats in the majoritarian election, and if you already have those, 20% or maybe even 15% of the proportional vote would be enough for a majority, in 2012 the LDP would even only have needed four proportional seats to get over the line. In the question "who won?", the proportional election was just an appendix.
1026:
members. One may think that such a parallel system (where FPTP usually dominates) is not suited very well to a pluralistic modern society â and if you agree that would apply even more to systems like the UK or the US where not only two thirds, but all members are elected by FPTP â, and if you are KĆmeitĆ or JCP supporter you probably won't like it. But
Wikipeda has to describe the voting system as it is, not one that one or other editor likes. It may be tedious to have to list two separate parallel election results to one and the same body, but that's how the electoral system works since 1996. ââ
756:
1037:
election as suggested in the section above might be helpful. But if the endorsements are for most but not all individual candidates and with even competing nominations in some races (as they usually have been), it might be better to keep the parties separate in the infobox and include something like a "candidates and nomination strategy" section in the article instead â on
October 10, when the official election period starts (and the nominations are sewn up), Japanese media usually publish summaries and statistics and report on interesting races.
772:
358:
214:
180:
588:
567:
54:
340:
120:
102:
409:
32:
71:
224:
705:
598:
1041:
Agreed. Would like to add that the person who reverted the edit cited
Germany as an example of a mixed system where only the PR vote is written - but Germany's compensatory system means the PR share *is* seat share (excluding parties under the threshold). In Japan this is not the case - the SMD vote
982:
Also of note is the fact that
Japanese media are increasingly portraying the LDP as red, in contrast to the Democrats who were blue (as the CDP is now) - see coverage of last year's Sangiin election. (I'm not sure yet if there's a consensus on how to portray the Communists - I feel like I've seen it
1036:
P.S.: Of course, nomination strategy becomes crucial in such FPTP systems with more than two notable parties (and the 48% in 2014 are bound to include some 10+ of KĆmeitĆ supporters); and if all alliances were indeed 100% comprehensive countrywide, a changed box for alliances in the majoritarian
1025:
So, could you please include the popular vote in the election of the majority of members of the House of
Representatives? The 33.11% for the LDP in the proportional vote elected only 68 proportional LDP members, the 48% of the vote in the majoritarian election gave the LDP 222 majoritarian LDP
970:
The election is increasingly tripolar - although there are nine parties, each is in one of these three alliances, usually promising not to run candidates against each other. Therefore I propose that this election inbox look something like
1018:
I really think that writing just "291 seats, 33.11%" as *the* result for the previous election is utterly misleading because it suggests the 33% the LDP received in the 2014 proportional election gave it its majority. But this is a
987:
Knowledge (XXG) probably has rules on marking the same party with the same colour in different elections, but I feel this colour scheme would be more helpful than marking two of the three coalitions as different shades of green.
1094:, and the basemap by fellow users Utgard/Ajrelectionmaps. It would be most preferable if any of them gave their consent to the use of the map here in this capacity, especially given that they were not given credit for the map.
676:
It is absurd to call the alliance that includes the Social
Democratic Party and the Communist Party the "Liberal Coalition" - this turns the word "liberal" (which is about free markets and private property based society) on its
654:
678:
1139:
1134:
1042:
share is far more indicative of seat share than PR, as explained above - so I support including both. (In fact, if I had to choose one from the two, I'd include the SMD share.)
496:
1129:
366:
194:
145:
127:
107:
348:
190:
504:
1149:
320:
425:
542:
1124:
417:
330:
868:
455:
448:
1144:
1091:
306:
1164:
644:
521:
475:
462:
1169:
1154:
620:
257:
249:
682:
530:
972:
739:
1047:
Also, totally agree that we need to watch the nature of the alliances very carefully and should only change the inbox afterwards.
802:
1159:
887:
719:
82:
1003:
976:
611:
572:
261:
253:
237:
185:
856:
755:
53:
1090:
Previous map used was, to my knowledge, incorrectly cited, the author of the map being alternatehistory.com users
822:
882:
852:
480:
88:
1031:
991:
914:
1106:
1067:
Excuse the basic question, but how do you access the code of the result's spreadsheet when it only show
619:
on
Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
926:
512:
44:
70:
17:
845:
265:
771:
1052:
1027:
999:
488:
1076:
762:
131:, an ongoing effort to improve the quality of, expand upon and create new articles relating to
31:
357:
312:
1110:
1102:
1080:
1056:
1007:
686:
139:
979:- the relevant seat counts (more than a majority? just short?) are between the coalitions.
830:
1020:
1101:
Oryxslayer, I apologise for removing it, however it felt wrong to have it up as it was.
213:
179:
587:
566:
408:
339:
37:
A news item involving 2017 Japanese general election was featured on
Knowledge (XXG)'s
984:
983:
marked as purple once, i.e. close to, but not exactly, a part of the blue coalition.)
119:
101:
1118:
1072:
1048:
995:
782:
787:
603:
269:
229:
792:
1014:
Infobox: Removal of the popular vote in the previous 2014 majoritarian election
593:
219:
143:
and other aspects of democratic decision-making. For more information, visit
38:
133:
817:
597:
616:
243:
315:
in the banner shell. Please resolve this conflict if possible.
311:
This article has been given a rating which conflicts with the
64:
26:
407:
356:
338:
52:
535:
401:
396:
391:
386:
277:
155:
Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject
Elections and Referendums
615:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
508:: Participate in Japan-related deletion discussions.
264:. Current time in Japan:Â 07:25, September 13, 2024 (
241:, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
736:
1140:B-Class articles with conflicting quality ratings
256:, where you can join the project, participate in
1135:WikiProject Elections and Referendums articles
158:Template:WikiProject Elections and Referendums
8:
696:
672:Socialists and Communists are not "Liberal".
1130:C-Class Elections and Referendums articles
989:
695:
561:
374:
174:
96:
761:
248:on Knowledge (XXG). If you would like to
880:
843:
815:
563:
278:
176:
98:
68:
679:2A02:C7D:B5E6:6400:FD77:324B:7D1C:4C6A
1150:Mid-importance Japan-related articles
985:Here's a pretty good source for both.
128:WikiProject Elections and Referendums
7:
1125:Knowledge (XXG) In the news articles
609:This article is within the scope of
235:This article is within the scope of
125:This article is within the scope of
18:Talk:Japanese general election, 2017
87:It is of interest to the following
1097:If the origonal poster of the map
692:Proposal for infobox post-election
313:project-independent quality rating
161:Elections and Referendums articles
25:
973:French legislative election, 2017
740:House of Representatives of Japan
629:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject 2010s
365:This article is supported by the
347:This article is supported by the
291:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Japan
770:
754:
703:
596:
586:
565:
222:
212:
178:
118:
100:
69:
30:
1069:Japanese general election, 2017
743:233 seats needed for a majority
697:Japanese general election, 2017
649:This article has been rated as
325:This article has been rated as
1145:B-Class Japan-related articles
977:Italian general election, 2013
1:
1165:Low-importance 2010s articles
623:and see a list of open tasks.
378:WikiProject Japan to do list:
1111:01:45, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
1081:17:16, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
687:07:42, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
1057:23:38, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
1008:19:17, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
500:to articles that need them.
439:Featured content candidates
49:section on 25 October 2017.
1186:
1170:WikiProject 2010s articles
1155:WikiProject Japan articles
632:Template:WikiProject 2010s
434:
331:project's importance scale
294:Template:WikiProject Japan
869:Constitutional Democratic
747:
713:
701:
648:
581:
373:
364:
346:
324:
310:
207:
152:Elections and Referendums
113:
108:Elections and Referendums
95:
1021:parallel election system
536:Japanese Knowledge (XXG)
476:Good article nominations
764:File:Governor Koike.jpg
1160:C-Class 2010s articles
412:
361:
343:
297:Japan-related articles
77:This article is rated
58:
738:All 465 seats to the
411:
360:
342:
81:on Knowledge (XXG)'s
56:
534:an article from the
516:Japan-related stubs.
258:relevant discussions
698:
546:unassessed articles
367:Politics task force
262:lists of open tasks
252:, please visit the
936:326 seats, 46.82%
903:25 September 2017
900:26 September 2012
803:Liberal Democratic
522:requested articles
513:Improve and expand
505:Pages for Deletion
489:Godzilla Minus One
413:
362:
349:History task force
344:
83:content assessment
59:
1010:
994:comment added by
968:
967:
964:
963:
888:Social Democratic
862:
732:
731:
669:
668:
665:
664:
661:
660:
612:WikiProject 2010s
560:
559:
556:
555:
552:
551:
471:
470:
285:
246:-related articles
238:WikiProject Japan
173:
172:
169:
168:
63:
62:
16:(Redirected from
1177:
923:(Gov. of Tokyo)
851:Candidates from
850:
774:
767:
765:
758:
749:
748:
715:
714:
708:
707:
706:
699:
655:importance scale
637:
636:
633:
630:
627:
606:
601:
600:
590:
583:
582:
577:
569:
562:
497:requested images
433:
432:
375:
299:
298:
295:
292:
289:
282:
280:
273:
232:
227:
226:
225:
216:
209:
208:
203:
200:
197:
182:
175:
163:
162:
159:
156:
153:
146:our project page
140:electoral reform
122:
115:
114:
104:
97:
80:
74:
73:
65:
34:
27:
21:
1185:
1184:
1180:
1179:
1178:
1176:
1175:
1174:
1115:
1114:
1088:
1065:
1016:
906:2 October 2017
892:
879:
878:
865:
842:
841:
827:
814:
813:
763:
725:22 October 2017
704:
702:
694:
674:
634:
631:
628:
625:
624:
602:
595:
575:
406:
296:
293:
290:
287:
286:
276:
228:
223:
221:
201:
198:
188:
160:
157:
154:
151:
150:
78:
57:Knowledge (XXG)
23:
22:
15:
12:
11:
5:
1183:
1181:
1173:
1172:
1167:
1162:
1157:
1152:
1147:
1142:
1137:
1132:
1127:
1117:
1116:
1087:
1084:
1064:
1061:
1060:
1059:
1044:
1043:
1035:
1024:
1015:
1012:
966:
965:
962:
961:
958:
955:
952:
951:Current seats
948:
947:
942:
937:
934:
933:Last election
930:
929:
924:
922:
920:not contesting
917:
912:
911:Leader's seat
908:
907:
904:
901:
898:
894:
893:
891:
890:
885:
874:
873:
872:
871:
866:
864:
863:
848:
837:
836:
835:
834:
833:
828:
826:
825:
820:
809:
808:
807:
806:
805:
800:
796:
795:
790:
785:
780:
776:
775:
768:
759:
752:
745:
744:
742:
737:
734:
733:
730:
729:
727:
722:
711:
710:
709:
693:
690:
673:
670:
667:
666:
663:
662:
659:
658:
651:Low-importance
647:
641:
640:
638:
635:2010s articles
621:the discussion
608:
607:
591:
579:
578:
576:Lowâimportance
570:
558:
557:
554:
553:
550:
549:
548:
547:
539:
526:
517:
509:
501:
492:
469:
468:
460:
453:
444:
443:
442:
431:
430:
426:A-class review
422:
405:
404:
399:
394:
389:
383:
380:
379:
371:
370:
363:
353:
352:
345:
335:
334:
327:Mid-importance
323:
317:
316:
309:
303:
302:
300:
234:
233:
217:
205:
204:
202:Midâimportance
183:
171:
170:
167:
166:
164:
123:
111:
110:
105:
93:
92:
86:
75:
61:
60:
50:
35:
24:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1182:
1171:
1168:
1166:
1163:
1161:
1158:
1156:
1153:
1151:
1148:
1146:
1143:
1141:
1138:
1136:
1133:
1131:
1128:
1126:
1123:
1122:
1120:
1113:
1112:
1108:
1104:
1100:
1095:
1093:
1085:
1083:
1082:
1078:
1074:
1070:
1062:
1058:
1054:
1050:
1046:
1045:
1040:
1039:
1038:
1033:
1029:
1028:Asakura Akira
1022:
1013:
1011:
1009:
1005:
1001:
997:
993:
986:
980:
978:
974:
959:
956:
953:
950:
949:
946:
943:
941:
938:
935:
932:
931:
928:
925:
921:
918:
916:
915:Yamaguchi-4th
913:
910:
909:
905:
902:
899:
897:Leader since
896:
895:
889:
886:
884:
881:
877:
870:
867:
861:
858:
854:
849:
847:
844:
840:
832:
829:
824:
821:
819:
816:
812:
804:
801:
798:
797:
794:
791:
789:
786:
784:
781:
778:
777:
773:
769:
766:
760:
757:
753:
751:
750:
746:
741:
735:
728:
726:
723:
721:
717:
716:
712:
700:
691:
689:
688:
684:
680:
671:
656:
652:
646:
643:
642:
639:
622:
618:
614:
613:
605:
599:
594:
592:
589:
585:
584:
580:
574:
571:
568:
564:
545:
544:
540:
538:into English.
537:
533:
532:
527:
524:
523:
518:
515:
514:
510:
507:
506:
502:
499:
498:
493:
491:
490:
485:
483:
478:
477:
473:
472:
467:
465:
464:
458:
457:
451:
450:
445:
440:
437:
436:
435:
428:
427:
423:
420:
419:
415:
414:
410:
403:
400:
398:
395:
393:
390:
388:
385:
384:
382:
381:
377:
376:
372:
368:
359:
355:
354:
350:
341:
337:
336:
332:
328:
322:
319:
318:
314:
308:
305:
304:
301:
284:
281:
271:
267:
263:
259:
255:
251:
247:
245:
240:
239:
231:
220:
218:
215:
211:
210:
206:
196:
192:
187:
184:
181:
177:
165:
148:
147:
142:
141:
136:
135:
130:
129:
124:
121:
117:
116:
112:
109:
106:
103:
99:
94:
90:
84:
76:
72:
67:
66:
55:
51:
48:
47:
46:
40:
36:
33:
29:
28:
19:
1098:
1096:
1089:
1068:
1066:
1017:
990:â Preceding
981:
969:
944:
939:
919:
875:
860:
838:
810:
788:Yuriko Koike
724:
675:
650:
610:
604:2010s portal
541:
529:
520:
519:Create some
511:
503:
495:
487:
482:Vinland Saga
481:
474:
461:
454:
447:
446:
438:
424:
416:
326:
274:
254:project page
242:
236:
230:Japan portal
144:
138:
132:
126:
89:WikiProjects
43:
42:
1103:BitterGiant
927:Saitama-5th
846:Initiatives
793:Yukio Edano
484:(TV series)
418:Peer review
250:participate
45:In the news
1119:Categories
1092:Oryxslayer
1086:Map issues
954:315 seats
853:Democratic
831:KibĆ no TĆ
783:ShinzĆ Abe
260:, and see
960:37 seats
957:70 seats
883:Communist
531:translate
134:elections
39:Main Page
1049:Chuborno
1004:contribs
996:Chuborno
992:unsigned
456:Pictures
449:Articles
195:Politics
1063:Results
859:parties
857:Liberal
818:Komeito
779:Leader
653:on the
466:: None
459:: None
452:: None
392:history
329:on the
279:Refresh
199:Bâclass
191:History
79:C-class
41:in the
876:Allies
839:Allies
823:Kokoro
811:Allies
799:Party
543:Assess
429:: None
421:: None
85:scale.
1073:Aréat
677:head.
626:2010s
617:2010s
573:2010s
528:Help
463:Lists
402:purge
397:watch
288:Japan
270:Reiwa
244:Japan
186:Japan
1107:talk
1077:talk
1053:talk
1032:talk
1000:talk
855:and
720:2014
683:talk
494:Add
387:edit
1071:?--
975:or
945:New
940:New
645:Low
321:Mid
272:6)
266:JST
1121::
1109:)
1099:is
1079:)
1055:)
1006:)
1002:âą
718:â
685:)
486:,
479::
441:â
268:,
193:/
189::
137:,
1105:(
1075:(
1051:(
1034:)
1030:(
998:(
681:(
657:.
525:.
369:.
351:.
333:.
307:B
283:)
275:(
149:.
91::
20:)
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.