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returns no results with that information (not super surprising that a more minor professional association doesn't have their historical records available online). I imagine that the Claremont Colleges Library Special Collections, which houses her papers, would be able to answer that sort of question
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Murray writes (p. 125) that he believed strongly "that the development of a true mathematician must proceed without interruption", so he took exception to the fact that she took a break in her studies to teach. Murray doesn't explicitly say it, but reading between the lines, I imagine that there was
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Thanks for the review! The shortened hook is fine; it'd be nice if there was a way to concisely communicate that the weighing was a recurring event rather than a one-time thing, but not sure how. And image added. (I considered adding the football story to Pomona's main article, but the 60s paragraph
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now includes everything in the infobox. Beyond that, though, I don't feel that an infobox is a good fit for this article, since given the nature of Walton's work, it's better described narratively, whereas the infobox makes it look like she was mainly a mathematician by giving undue weight to e.g.
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Murray includes a brief quote from her that she felt it was "too remote from life". She also talks about how math was a boy's club, so combining that with her self-reliant attitude, she didn't have the support of a community. I allude to that in the last sentence of the early life section, but I'm
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I initially did that, but Murray (p. 198) talks about the publication of her doctoral dissertation as "perhaps, both her first and last act as a professional mathematician", so my sense is that, despite it being her education, it just wasn't her calling and isn't why she's notable, so it doesn't
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and the supporting story as I think this is of interest and also including the football story in the college article. but this is not part of the review).The hook is a bit verbose and I have shortened it but do feel free to revert. Well done.
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A lot of research and hardwork went into writing this article. It covers all major aspects and utilizes its sources to the fullest. The quality of prose is good, and it meets the criteria. Thank you for your great work,
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belong in the first sentence. I was able to cover the mathematics part of her life more thoroughly because of the details in Murray, but her role in Murray ultimately is that of someone who left the field.
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essay I linked in my initial revert of the talk banners here, but to speak to your particular concern about feeding Google/voice assistants, that can be accomplished through Wikidata; I've ensured that
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To avoid the navbox being too cluttered with names, I included only presidents and Sumner (who was a de facto president). There are some links that I think readers would find relevant, such as
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I unfortunately couldn't find that anywhere. I know some academics without a middle name invent one so as to more easily differentiate themselves, so perhaps this is an example of that.
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her theses. It also extends nearly the entire length of the article, displacing the quote/images, something that will get worse once the table of contents is no longer at the top in
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for many years, becoming known as the "infobox wars," and it's under discretionary sanctions for that reason. There are various arguments for and against, including the
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mention the date. Apologies I can't offer more details on so many things here; I wish I could, but as I mentioned in the note, the available sourcing is quite limited.
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in the history section is already quite full and the other stuff is more important, so I think it's better placed in the traditions article and Walton's article.)
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We're thinking along the same wavelength—that's something I wanted to include, but it unfortunately doesn't seem to be in any of the available sources.
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about her parents visiting but used the sexist "George Walton and Mrs. Walton" framework, and Murray (p. 58) talks only about George and "his wife".
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a healthy dose of old fashioned sexism as well, so I left it a little intentionally vague and most readers will probably assume that's the reason.
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She presumably taught math (similar to what would be a TA role today), so I added that. I wasn't able to find dates.
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I am not sure if the Pomona College template is needed here (it does not have a link to Walton's article either).
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The approach I took with the lead was to give a very broad definition of who she was in the first paragraph, per
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On the matter of whether or not to include an infobox, I'm not sure if you're aware, but that was
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She taught math, so I'll add that, but I wasn't able to find the name of the school(s).
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football team from forcibly weighing and measuring the proportions of first-year women?
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It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
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football team from forcibly weighing and measuring the proportions of first-year women?
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A well-written and informative article, it should pass. That will be all for now.
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Frustratingly, we don't, at least from any of the available sources. The
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I managed to find what I'm pretty sure is it and added it.
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Same story, unfortunately; Lyon (p. 417) doesn't say.
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