1290:, Thanks so much for the thorough and thoughtful review. I fixed the wording changes. Regarding the few single sentence paragraphs, I think you are talking about the Other businesses section. Two of the sections have a fair amount of content - two don't. The only way that I can think to merge the information is to remove all subsection headings - and put the two short sections into one paragraph. Would that work?
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There was a $ 10,000 land sale in 1793 that was understood to be all lands south of the Mohawk River owed by the Cosby heirs. The land was made up of multiple parcels and the actual deed written up neglected to include a small strip (the 1,284 acre parcel). So technically that strip legally remained
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Yes, Sanger arrived in 1788 and after becoming established (purchasing land, building a house), he brought his family the next year. It would be clearer to day "Sanger moved his family from New
Hampshire to join him in Whitestown in March 1789", but I don't know if that is in fact true - I have no
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It would be great to have MB's input here. In the meantime, I don't think that there's more detail about his service during the war. I think he was promoted so quickly initially because the war had just begun and they needed leaders asap - and he was considered a good candidate to lead. That is
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I don't know what you mean about cites not appearing after a mark of punctuation. Are you saying that where a cite covers multiple sentences (like the first paragraph in
Religious organizations where the one citation applies to the entire paragraph), you think that the citation tag should be
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Thank you both for your hard work. I'm happy to promote - congrats (and apologies once again that you had to wait so long for a review). Regarding cites, the relevant point is "citation markers are normally placed after adjacent punctuation such as periods (full stops) and commas"
1339:- they all look good. Regarding the cites, I mean that a cite shouldn't appear in the middle of a sentence unless it follows a comma. There was at least one case of this... but I can't find it now! Do what you can to merge single sentence paragraphs, but if you can't that's fine.
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I don't understand what is wrong with "non-punctuated citations". They are common, I use them often, and formally endorsed ( are generally added either directly following the fact that they support, or at the end of the sentence that they support, following any punctuation.) in
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As I understand it, yes, he moved by himself first, and then moved his family later - I am guessing waiting til either a house was built and/or when he could ensure that his family would be safe, as it was wilderness and land of Native
Americans before
1489:. There were 5 affected sentences - 2 of which I just made minor punctuation edits and 3 where I moved the citations to the end of the sentence. I reverted the three sentences back to their original placement. The net-net of the changes is
1439:, I reworded some sentences so that the punctuation stood where it was placed, but in other cases I did move them to the end of the sentence. Are you saying that the ones that were moved to the end of the sentence should be moved back?โ
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How is: "In 1810, Sanger was one of many claimants that sought relief from the legislature to settle a dispute over the title to 1,284 acres (520ย ha) arising after the land was omitted from a 1793 deed transferring the property to
501:"Sanger moved his family to the unincorporated village of Whitestown in March 1789" I'm confused - he moved to Whitestown in 1788 then moved to Whitestown in 1789? Do you mean he initially moved alone? Or is this a different area?
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the property of the Cosby estate. Some 17 years later, Sanger was one of the leading citizens that requested that the state legislature fix this technical error so that clear title could be provided to the property.
1028:"Sanger's only younger sibling" This could be slightly clearer - I'm not sure whether you mean Asa was Jedediah's only sibling, or if she was the only one of his brothers and sisters who was younger than him
420:"He operated the farm, a tavern and a small store on the property" This sounds a bit strange. Suggest rewording as "Alongside the farm, he operated a tavern and a small store on the property"
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Hampshire farm burned. Maybe "Sanger's family joined him in Whitestown in March 1789" - but that sounds a little strange to me.
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I have no further information on his service. The only documentation I could find was service-record type listings; no narrative about his time in the war.
247:"To traverse the local settlements" This doesn't sound right. Do you mean that he invested in the roads as they would help him travel between settlements?
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Hello, I did not nominate the article, but worked on prepping the article for GA review. I can tackle the wording issues, so I'll work on what I can.
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may be able to answer (e.g., Revolutionary War, Land deals dispute question, etc.) So, if we could give him/her a bit of time, that would be great.โ
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There are a few single sentence paragraphs, that could be perhaps merged. There are also some cites that don't appear after a mark of punctuation
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This is fairly standard stuff. I have been told multiple times by different reviewers to move cites after a mark of punctuation myself.
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834:"n 1812, he was named one of the directors of the Bank of Utica when it opened on December 8, 1812" No need to say 1812 twice
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and the plot on the farm is probably gone too. It was probably felt that he deserved a more prominent burial place.
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I have added some comments to the few remaining questions not addressed already by Carole.
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I'll have a look at this - sorry for the long wait for a reviewer!
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584:We need MB for this one.โ
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