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in Obc category in gujrat, madhya pradesh, rajasthan. They have several claim like they are true descendants of King Sagara, king Odra and king bhgiratha. They claim to be kshatriya varn in all over India. They do not have a bounded occupation. In Some places they have own land and doin farming. While in some place they done several well occupation. They mainly lives in
Villages. Orh lives in main states like Haryana, UP, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh etc. They have a several surnames like Birpali, Majoka, Parihar, jaiswar, gadai mudai, Gundali etc.
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Villages. Orh lives in main states like Haryana, UP, Rajasthan, Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh etc. They have a several surnames like Birpali, Majoka, Parihar, jaiswar, mudai, Gundali etc.
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this not. This is against the indian law. And if orh was kshatriya is given in hindi books, so how can i give you
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Hello, my dear editors. My name is Vijay . I am changing the content of this page, i have read these things frim sevral Books. Orh/oad is not untouchables caste. They comes under
General category in Uttar Pradesh district of Indian. No untouchables caste comes under general category. They also comes
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I am saying that odia and odisha is named after oda. There was a ancient kingdom called odra kingdom. And on the basis of that,there is a old name of odisha called odra desha or oda desha. Not only chasa ,there are oda khandayat known as odia khandayat. Oda is a term used for every odia people. They
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Yeah sure this is english wikipedia. But this behaviour of yours is not good. How you can say that not you job. If not your job than why you again and again you change the content of this page and tell that orh is untouchable caste. Who give you that right, that you said this caste is untouchable or
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Oda word comes from ancient odra kingdom of odisha. This is way oda is used as a prefix of many caste. Like oda chasa,oda paika,oda khandayat,oda kayasta (karana). They are having very high status in odisha.you will not believe,some times higher than brahmins.You can see oda paika and oda khandayat
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Oad rajput are not Rajput Thakur. Rajput Thakur is is different caste. And Oad Rajput is dofferent caste. I am not claiming that they are thakur. I am saying that they are not untouchable as they are Oad Rajput, as they bhagirathi Od Rajput. Because bhagiratha was a king. And King Odr was ancesstor
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Hello, my dear editors. My name is Rihan. I am changing the content of this page, i have read these things frim sevral Books. Orh/oad is not untouchables caste. They comes under
General category in Uttar Pradesh district of Indian. No untouchables caste comes under general category. They also comes
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Please link and quote these books. I also found them in my search but titles alone do not denote status. Any caste can add
Kshatriya or Rajput to their name and claim status (eg. Kurmis, Vanniyars, Kalitas, Khatris, Yadavs, Rajputs, Marathas, Reddys, Rajus, Jats, Gurjars, Ahirs, Adivasis, etc.).
705:'The Indian Historical Quarterly' in this book search for Od Rajput. Here Orh are written as Oad Rajput forces. I don't think so any untouchable caste are have title of Rajput and second thing they have force. They are kshatriya. They are Rajput Thakur, Oad Rajput is itself a caste.
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The way he written,they are same tribe doing different works in different area. It's totally wrong. Oda chasa are from odra kingdom of odisha. That article is misleading sir. There is no source sayes they are same tribe. Only sounds same .no connection.
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term in akio tanabe articles.odia,odissi,odisha all come from that . It might happen in ancient time some odia migrated from odisha to different region of india living doing different work. The article should written in proper way.
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