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I don't believe one of the facts presented in this article is accurate. The article states that "Toole stated to many people that he had murdered Adam, he even wrote to his father and offered to show him where he buried the body for a cash reward." If I am not mistaken, didn't this offer turn out
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It's always better to go to primary sources. Unfortunately, the statements in these secondary/tertiary articles (some are nearly transcripts of the shows) don't have footnotes. The larger the bibliography, the harder it may be to hunt down a source. For any famous scandal there is at least one
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The Whole article comes across as a tabloid piece and completely unbelievable... The statements about his grandmother being a "Satanist" who dug up bodies to use in rituals needs to be revised as well as any notions that he was "gay". Those portions cite an article written by a woman who is best
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Nobody seen Death
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I agree-- this section is extremely confusing! It seems to bring in Estep as a person accused of a crime for which Toole tried to take credit, but needs to be re-written to introduce that idea MUCH more clearly! The whole section is out of place as it
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