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template. Although it lists 2009's "Avatar" as #1 (@ $ 2.9B USD), it shows the true champion in a separate section adjusted for inflation. There, "Avatar" is #2 @ $ 3.5B and 1939's "Gone with the Wind" is #1 @ $ 3.9B, both adjusted to 2021 money. Relative to my suggestion, the lotto page's current #11 cash value is 2012's $ 474MM (#12 annuity). However, when adjusted to 2023 money, that cash value jumps to $ 615.2MM, which catapults the rank to #7.
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like this. Why are things subdivided on this page between the US and Europe? That's fine, but the top subdivisions should be things like the biggest jackpot won by one person, the biggest period (whether shared or not), the biggest taken as an annuity, the biggest taken at once, etc. Then within those if you want to list the US (and perhaps individual states), Europe (and perhaps individual countries), Asia, etc. that seems like the best way.
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220:(1) you better do the list in chronological order because you can sort the individual columns anyway! Let say sort on jackpot cash value , click and you have the result. So the first Colum can be erased "rank". (2) now (current) You have to fit in a new entry & rename all the rank numbers under that new entry! not good (3) the list according to the official websites is incomplete! see Powerball & mega millions. geertes62 27/06/16.
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others' comments is prohibited, just that it is "not necessary." It does not state anywhere that "Talk pages are meant to record comments as they were made," so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Nor am I sure why yall are so opposed to adding clarity and readability to the page when it has
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Stop with the attitude. Your style of writing is unorganized (among other things), so I added links to the pages you were referencing, for other editors who may be reading. I separated 2-3 of your points into individual sentences because I am going to address your points one by one for clarity. I was
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the cash prizes are taxed in the us. Federal 25%!!!! and lots of states tax the lottery win as well!!!! I find a website you can see what the prize the winners get, so minus the federal & state tax. that gives you a better idea instead of the stupid "sum of the payments annuity".... I checqed it
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The only way to compare jackpots accurately is showing the *Cash Value* adjusted to current-year inflation. (I believe adjusting jackpot/annuity amounts may prove problematic due to variable interest rates, but if not, go for it.) Wiki's "List of
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Actually U.S. federal tax can be as high as 39.6% in 2016. Automatic withholding are 25%, but that's not the end of your tax responsibility. Regardless, federal and state tax rates vary from year to year and from person to person. Also, some areas of local income tax, which usamega.com ignores. We
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I called the section your "baby" because you clearly feel ownership over it, and you added it back after I removed it for being messy, out of order, unsubstantiated, and full of irrelevant technical drivel. The winning 5-digit number from the 2011 drawing is completely extraneous information, for
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A lot of the things listed here are statements that are not relevant to jackpot records at all. For instance "The Irish
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While it may be easier to add an entry if the list is chronological, such an order doesn't make sense for a records list. Records are listed in order of best – fastest, top score, highest amount, etc. If you want to see the results chronologically, then click on the date column. But most people
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somebody added a table "Examples of largest jackpots" i think is not a good idea. This is not a plus for the topic "records" (they already there under in text. who want to know who in the winner? and de jackpot is in the end is split with 70 people ? this more for a local newpaper but not for
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I agree that a new column "2023 value" in USD for jackpot cash amounts would be a good addition. I wonder if there is a
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Agreed. Just as long as it's sortable, it doesn't really matter what the default is, but as a list of records, largest first makes sense. Of course, I said it should be sortable, went to the article, and saw it was already sortable, so I don't know exactly what
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Fair enough. You're more patient than me in interpreting the post. That said, I agree that the post-tax amount is unlikely to be available, especially with varying tax rates across the life of an annuity jackpot. So while a reasonable request, there's not much we can do to add it.
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You have thoroughly misunderstood the talk page guidelines. If you don't believe me (and oknazevad, and the IP) feel free to bring this up at the noticeboard of your choice for further input. But do not 'refactor' a talk page again. Making personal attacks (itself a problem per
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Don't edit others comments to "correct" them. I'm not the IP, but they're right. And they point out the guideline stating that explicitly. Jus because you don't think a talk page comment is up to your standards doesnt mean you can change it. Leave other people's words alone.
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The list includes all jackpots "of $ 300 million or more (annuity value) with at least one jackpot-winning ticket". As long as the jackpot was more than $ 300 million, it qualifies. I'll restore the August 2007 Powerball and search for any potential missing entries that fit.
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Is the table limited to 60 entries? I tried to re-input a lottery win and it won't format correctly in the table. When the TBD Nov 5,2022 drawing was added to the list, this information was deleted from the list: $ 314.3 $ 146.0 1 $ 146.0 Powerball Aug. 25, 2007 IN
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out and the record holder for the biggest prize is still Gloria
Mackenzie, not the winner of july 08 2016 (as stated in the list) top 5: Nr1=18may13=278mil Nr2=7july16=272mil Nr3/4/5=13jan16=246mil Nr6=7may16=190mil Nr7=19feb14=182mil and so on.... the website
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jackpots may not totally belong in the
European table given that the €4m top prize/jackpot is so low, as I wrote above. It barely deserves being its own subsection. Other editors should chime in about this lottery's importance (or lack thereof) in the
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On a separate note, I concur w/ those stating there are too many listed, currently 64. Top 10 is sufficient; beyond 25 borders on irrelevant -- especially considering today's jackpots regularly approach the billion-dollar mark.
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I didn't misunderstand anything. I directly quoted from the articles. Adding minimal clarity and readability to a page, in good faith, with no negative impact, is not prohibited anywhere in the guidelines.
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I did not "wholesale delete" any "comments." I see you did not cite these alleged "wholesale deletions" in your reply, unlike the two other edits you cited. I did delete four old, unvouched, irrelevant
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Small thing, could someone make it so that the Date column is wider? Some of the dates are OK and other dates wrap to another line. It would clean up the look if it were made more uniform looking.
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That's total prise payouts, not the jackpot. from the linked article: "The top prize is capped at 4 million euros ($ 4.36 million)". No, the record is not $ 2.4 Billion.
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