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1017:. If Lois were born in 1966 then Meg would have been born when Lois was 17 (which is not that all impossible, It does happen), Chris would have be born when she was 20 and Stewie would have be born when she was 33 which is totally out of whack with the show's timeline. What does everyone else think? Should the age be changed to 1959 to be consistent with the show's timeline. Misterrick 20:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
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A lot of things are listed here that, on a show like this, seem like a stretch. Brief, often self-contradictory jokes are a staple of the show, but an enormous number of these are listed in the bio as character facts; this talk page even has an "LGBT issues" banner on the basis of these jokes alone!
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You have to understand that, yes he is a baby, but he is REALLY smart. You have to keep in mind that he has made a working time machene, a working ray-gun that is shown in at least 1 episode every season, and a working weather machene. Of cource he is going to think that Rupert talks to him, and that
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I was thinking the same thing; at the end of "Holy Crap", Peter refers to "sleeping with my
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Thanks for the confidence booster, Olaf. Also, I'd like to raise the idea that this article should be majorly simplified. Most of the supposed 'background' on Lois is sourced to random, isolated throw-away gags. Should we maybe add a statement to that effect, and keep only the over-arching character
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believed that Lois is 18 in 1984, despite Lois' being two years younger than Peter. Because of that fact that she would have been 16 years old by then. She cannot be 18 or 16 in 1984. She was 21 in 1984, and I tried to prove it by explaining to you that Lois was 42, but you keep reverting this fact
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The fact the voices have changed is alluded to several times in commentaries and special features on the characters. They attribute the change in Stewie, Peter, and Lois' voice as "finding the character" and becoming "comfortable with the character". I personally prefer Lois' voice from season 1/2.
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Well, since when did Stewie's plots and madcap schemes actually work as intended? He thinks Rupert speaks to him. I took it more of his snide drivel. I guess he could be referring to menopause, although he seems fairly ignorant to women in general, let alone their anatomy. *looking suspiciously
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Who added ten pounds to Lois? Said before she was 120, now its at 130? Where are the sources for these figures? The only character whose weight is ever mentioned in an episode to my knowledge is Stewie being 29 pounds when he goes to the doctor. And who keeps changing her height? Before she was 5ft
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While amusing, "Besides her quirkiness and hidden talents, Lois has a strong sexual side as well. One instance finds her in a dominatrix outfit, while another episode has her reaching an emotional climax by yelling at Peter to slap her panty-clad backside! Later, she role-plays the bad school girl,
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what the hell is a sesection. trust me, there's no such word. do you mean c-section (caesarian section)? the difference between a vaginal delivery and a c-section has nothing to do with drug use per se. besides, why would lois have wanted a c-section? the entire sentence makes no sense and will be
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Not that I don't agree with you all, but how does one exlain the quote from Lois in Season 3's Brian Does
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Is it possible that some of the strange remarks regarding Lois ("Meth is a hell of a drug", etc.) may be throwaway jokes intended to be shocking rather than revealing about her past? I don't think that it's all intended to be taken literally. Perhaps a brief disclaimed could be added to the bio?
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In the specific case of Lois, the bits of her backstory revealed so far hold up extremely well if we ignore just one bit in "Lethal
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Well you see she has changed so much as a person. This has really been driven home in this last season, season 5. She is "insane" compared to the season 1 character who was truly a conservative. As the show continues to break water, her character just doesn't fit into the bill any longer. All the
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Peter, in his "What Really Grinds my Gears" segment about Linsey Lohan, says, "Everyone knows that no woman anywhere wants to have sex with anyone, and to tell us other wise is just, is just bogos." It cutsaway to Lois and the kids on the sofa whatching the segment, and Lois replyes, "He's right,
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I hope an external link is okay for this site. I added the link there. I know usually only the largest fan sites are allowed to be added to wiki but there are no other fan sites exclusively for Lois
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Lois had 3 kids (Chris, Meg and Stewie) and looks like she never had em? this is a cartoon alright. Make the damn writers and animaters redraw Lois to "anatomically correct" figures. Does she have parasites in her? Oh wait, I spoiled it! LoL. she must come from
Hollywood or Malibu, not Quahog RI!
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Hi - just trying to find where the characters' weights are mentioned - it's perfectly possible I've just missed them, but if, as I suspect, they are purely speculative, I think they should be left as 'unknown', or the category should just be erased. Any comments?Libatius 20:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
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You wouldn't happen to be the guy offering to upgrade my services are you? He keeps posting on my guestbook that he'll upgrade my bandwidth. Anyway, if the link is going to be taken down, seeing how it is the only Lois
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Francis was never comfortable that she's NOT catholic rather WASN'T catholic. Francis would have no reason to tell her she'd burn in hell if she was converted. Like Patrica Heaton and her family, she hasn't converted or left her faith, but is happy to raise her
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I'm pretty sure the intention of the writers is to show Lois is bisexual, having her referenced an attraction to women on several occasions. While it's unlikely the character will ever declare "I am bi", it's all in the show with no other possible intention for those expositions. If I add
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The idea that the show is filled with "self-contradictory jokes" is a serious misconception and an injustice to the show. Sure, there are a few contradictions, but probably a lot fewer than your typical sitcoms where the writers make no effort to maintain continuity (e.g.,
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I am going to change my service provider next month to an unlimited bandwidth account. So I am putting the link back up since that notice will be posted on the homepage for people to see. Now there should be no problem with the link, it will "be able to handle traffic from
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come on, she's a flaming knee-jerk liberal! I know Lois is a freaking cartoon (don't exist), but some concocted character based on liberal women who yell, demand, whine, moan or bitch about things, like how men treated women badly (and still do). does Lois have
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I'd forgotten about this...I've raised this on another Family Guy page, but I know of one editor at least who changed the heights and weights based on his own 'knowledge of human physiology and BMI'. So that'll be a roundabout way of saying 'speculation'
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It is possible that he did place a ticking time bomb in her womb. When he tells Stu "She's still alive? What the hell man!" in the Stewie movie apon seeing Lois 30+ years from now, he cold mean (although somewhat doutfull) "You messed up the time
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Frankly, I think the LGBT banner at the top of the talk page is a farce. Nothing about this character is at all pertinent to gay issues. That said, of course the show is self-contradictory. I mean, heck, when they decided that francis griffin
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On the episode "Peter Griffin: husband, father... brother?" Didn't it show the Pewterschmidt family photograph book with pictures indicating a German heritage? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. (I'm sure you will!) :-)
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Could it be that she really isn't a bisexual? Or is it simply her abstination while she is married to Peter? (Oh I also made a few minor edits to the article, namely, a broken link to an episode and a redundant sentence)
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Besides their gambling problems and kleptomania, can you list "immense similarities" that are both general (visible across several episodes) and specific (i.e., not so general as "both are married to fat guys")?
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Although it's true that continuity applies better to Lois than to Peter, there were genuinely things in this article that needed to be cleaned up and which Plinth took care of Friday the 13th. Specifically:
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So... I must have missed something here. Where precisely is it conclusively stated (in the show) that Lois is bi? Because, obviously, simply guessing at that "fact" would be considered original research.
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others, like "Scott Baio is androgynous enough...") It seems to me that only very frequently and consistently seen traits should be included on the bios from a show like this.
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I'm sorry but I am going to remove that link for now. The links are all dead and it's hosted on geocities which cannot handle the traffic generated by wikipedia. My apologies.
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or split personalities? her accent dont sound too new england to me, but part "nuue yoor-kah" or this is how Alex Borstein (Lois' voice) speak a phony Boston accent?
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I don't get this - although Lois seems to be open minded, there is not evidence in the show that she was ever attracted to women? I would delete this part...
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Some stuff might need to be timed, but don't become "Jack the Ripper". There are people like me who like to read long articals on there favorite thing.--
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