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scientific achievements. Yet I look at his publication list and see a tremendous amount of technical material that he's put out over the last three decades, in addition to a lot of popular stuff in between. Is any of it notable? This is why an expert is needed. We can't have an article stating foremost that he's "a theoretical physicist" and then not include a damn thing about his actual work. And just to clarify, I'm not saying this as thinly veiled criticism. I like the guy, (you can guess my opinions by looking at my edit history) so I would like to include something more persuasive here about what makes him a notable physicist, assuming he is one. --
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The early life section contains the sentence, "He was reared in a Jewish household." I've changed the word 'reared' to 'raised.' To some people only animals are reared while raised is pretty much accepted everywhere. Thus to some groups that original wording might be a little offensive. I consider it
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We really do have to be careful about these things. The reason I brought up recentism in addition to BLP, is that it really is too soon in terms of sources to make this an encyclopedic claim. Keep in mind that he just reported what he heard, so if true, it could also be that someone (or more than
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My real question is this: What significant discoveries has Krauss made or contributed to? Either he hasn't really discovered much, or he's the most modest guy in the universe, because in spite of his tremendous output, none of the biographies I find of the guy clearly state anything about his
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Krauss states in this article, "My practice as a scientist is atheistic. That is to say, when I set up an experiment I assume that no god, angel or devil is going to interfere with its course; and this assumption has been justified by such success as I have achieved in my professional career. I
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is a "scientific hypothesis," it is the opinion of many others that it is an unscientific powerplay intended to insert ultra-conservative Protestant religious dogmas into public school education. Lawrence Krauss's biography is hardly the place to debate such a complicated issue.
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If you feel that this article has inappropriate liberal point of view, I encourage you to try to improve it, but adding the vague pejorative term "leftist" fails to accomplish that. Furthermore, although it may be the opinion of some that
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which explains that such sections are rarely helpful. If there is encyclopedic information it should be integrated into the existing text because articles should not unduly draw attention to what critics have claimed.
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As I already mentioned above, the criticism is not about whether the rumor is false of correct. He may be right, but he'd still have 'stolen some of the glory' (to quote some criticism) of the people doing the work.
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The consensus a bit further down this page is that people are waiting for a WP:RS other than BuzzFeed to vet some of the claims in BuzzFeed article. The Gizmodo article does not address the validity of claims.
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It might be possible that Krauss was born in NYC, but supposedly he spent a lot of his childhood in Calgary, Alberta, or at least that is what he told me. Is this wrong? Maybe someone should ask him. --
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Later, in the wider context of the "wrongness" of homosexuality, the audience protested, when Krauss answered the question "Why is incest wrong?" with "It is not clear to me that it is wrong",
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Later, in the wider context of the "wrongness" of homosexuality, the audience protested, when Krauss answered the question "Why is incest wrong?" with "It is not clear to me that it is wrong",
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I'm moving this line from the main page as I'm pretty sure it's vandalism- "He likes to wear black turtlenecks, as shown in his picture." In the odd chance it's not, give a holler.
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As of today, the most notable thing he has done is to personally co-opt ~20,000 man-years of work by LIGO scientists. I expect it will stand as the high water mark of his career.
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This is just silly. What does it even mean? What is the impact of superstition in pop culture? What is the impact of religion in pop culture? How could one work to reduce them?
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the "it" falsely suggests that this quote refers to incest in general while, in the context of the debate, in fact, it refers to the example of an incest case given by him,
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Also, did you really mean to say that Krauss opposes intelligent design "as a result of his involvement on the issue with the state school board of
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It seems to me that much of Krauss's notability comes from his impressive scientific output complemented by his teaching, referenced
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source says he has been criticized by 3 different astronomers/physicists, all named: Michael Merrifield, Erik Mamajek, and
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saying that he wouldn't recommend it but may listen to rational arguments concerning the objective morality of such acts.
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saying that he wouldn't recommend it but may listen to rational arguments concerning the objective morality of such acts.
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saying that he wouldn't recommend it but may listen to rational arguments concerning the objective morality of such acts.
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saying that he wouldn't recommend it but may listen to rational arguments concerning the objective morality of such acts.
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saying that he wouldn't recommend it but may listen to rational arguments concerning the objective morality of such acts.
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I would also add that the rumor has not even played out yet. His rumor might be correct and that is the reason for
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Please note that an adjacent REF contains a youtube video, pointing to the exact start of the "incest" debate.
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krauss in his statement does not use the word objective nor objective morality, usually used by apologetics
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should therefore be intellectually dishonest if I were not also atheistic in the affairs of the world. "
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for a reason, as the term is exclusively used by his opponent and theist apologists in general
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a minor change but didn't mark it as one so that it isn't overlooked if people disagree.
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I can't see anything proving that he's an agnostic. What's your opinion about this?--
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in the debate he uses the terms: "absolute condemnation", "absolutely morally wrong"
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It may be at least partly true, but not to an excessive degree. It's certainly NN.
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his appearance or affiliation, I think it's an appropriate topic for the moment. -
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one) could not keep their mouth shut. Also, he is not the only source of
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a criticism section I added. What do you mean by 'too early to know'? The
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and gave an example case, where a simple answer may not be satisfactory.
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is a "gross" misrepresentation of Krauss' position and the actual debate
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and gave an example case, where a simple answer may not be satisfactory.
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This needs a citation. Anderson? Anderson who? There's no first name.
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Shouldn't there be a pronunciation guide for "Krauss"?
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