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were taken captive after the arrival of the MST mob. This article does not need to be a verbatim copy of the source, since it would be a violation of copyright. By the way I think the violence section is wrong but not because the MST is not a violent movement (it have shown that it is VIOLENT many times, as is also violent the police when dealing with them). This section is wrong because it´s interpretative in substance. It´s not correct to say "The MST itself is violent at times..." unless you find a source which recognizes it. Reading an article about MST violence does not allow one editor to say "the MST is a violent movement" (although they are, it´s an interpretation that must be left to the reader, not enforced by the editor). Knowledge is not place for editors to show their conclusions: Let´s say: A source tells that A is Yellow, B is Blue, it´s not up to the editor to conclude that A + B is green. We should only expose the facts from the sources, any intelligent reader will recognize that the MST is violent, no need to keep saying it on the article (on the contrary, in this talk, you are allowed to express your opinion, like me! :-)
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brutal and agressive movement, I´ve witinessed friends of mine being beaten by those so called freedom-fighters when they occupied a road tolling facility on the state of Paranå where I was working on (what the hell they have to do with road toll?)... I do not deny them the right to fight. I´m pretty much on the middle-ground here. The government do little for the poor, and the poor do not achieve anything by lowering their heads, the rich like to stay imovable in place, not to let things change. It´s hard to imagine anything being acomplished without some kind of fight, but I think MST to be more politically driven than ideologically. There are reliable sources that aligns with them, and many others that are against them. I think it would be top-priority to research it and bring a more neutral and balanced view to the entire article (the introduction section even claims that the occupations are rooted on the constitution, which is entirely a personal interpretation, after all, the constitution is a much more reliable root for the right for property not occupation of property).
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is a "gang" in the sense of actual organized crime, is kind of silly in my opinion and I doubt you'll find many journalists, even among the pro-Washington-Consensus crowd, who construe them as such. There is obviously a big difference between an organization whose members have been involved in criminal activities, and a "gang" or "organized crime" syndicate. If you find examples that claim the MST to be the latter, feel free to insert them but maintain due weight. In fact, while the article already mentions several of the arrests/charges, the article doesn't take into much consideration the claims of the MST that arrests of their members are often politically motivated. Needless to say, politically motivated arrests of non-criminals has a storied history in Brazil. In fact, I'll go ahead and add a reference to this one specific case:
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side. If I walk by the streets of my city I can see MST people walking up and down in red, singing revolutionary songs and praising Castro and Chavez(actually, not right now, because they are not here at this moment). I have been in contact with MST people face to face and in my opinion they are
Marxist. Anyway, I accept your text now, since I think it is not untrue(maybe is missing information, but we can live with that). I hope you understand I have written "Marxist" because of good personal experience, it was not a hint. I respect your opinions and I praise your accuracy, so I will not write "Marxist" for now. I will try to develop the text in another way and I will try to use as much sources I can find. Anyway, thank you for your criticism, they are important.--
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chasing individuals who called for help from the MST settlement. The police officers were then approached by a group of about 100 workers from the MST settlement, at which point they were taken captive. The follow-up article denies the MST's involvement. Perhaps adding a statement of them denying their involvement would suffice. Overall the violence section is correct. As for the language of the sources, it is typically hard to find foreign press coverage of these issues, at least beyond the headline and two-paragraph blurb. This article is edited by a lot of native
Portuguese-speakers, which are able to check the sources. Typically the more geocentric an article (IE: about a Brazilian Social movement), the more relevant is a source in that language. --
2699:--On Brazilian courts: To me, this seems a clear case of "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence". One source is not a consensus, and the assertion of bias of an entire judiciary system is pretty extraordinary. Notwithstanding the fact that the article right now uses the same judiciary's decisions as a basis for which to provide constitutional justification for the MST. So in one instance it disqualifies the source while on the other asserting its reliability. For the purposes of this edit, I have to side with RafaAzevedo. Again, I'm not disputing that there isn't a bias--I'm just saying to make that claim you need a lot more evidence.
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entirely different concrete goals. What the two movements have in common would be, at best, their "radical" character. Acceptance of this equation, however, is , AFAIK, common in some milieus in the outer periphery of the Far Right, who tend to think in terms of conspiracy theories that include everything from the
Chinese secret service, the secret remnants of the KGB to gay and ecological movements in vast (and vague) conspiracies to subvert Western Civilization. Perhaps we could settle for a consensus if we were symply to estate that
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Brazilian state, the law established that the standard mode for acquiring landed property was to be by means of a money purchase - either from the State, or for a previous private owner - and as such strongly limited opportunities to exercise squatter's right, therefore favouring the historical concentration of landed property that became one of the hallmarks of modern Brazilian social history (see ).
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not-quite-English description of something that sounds like a pretty hardcore Occupy. A group would probably be a better term, but I haven't tackled that problem yet however. The article, whether reliable or not, says there have been 1722 activists murdered since 1985, total, in the entire country, not, as far as I can see, 1722 MST activist members murdered. This is an important fact that probably should be documented, I agree, but accurately and preferably citing something that will fly as RS.
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means and the end: one can say that the MST employs violence at times, though violence is not its main objective. Much like the police, violence is used at times, but that is not its end objective (that's to uphold the law). Conclusions are allowed in
Knowledge, as long as they can be challenged and discussed as much as we're doing now. I'm obviously okay with the way it's phrased, but if there are any objections, edit the section and let's take it from there.--
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sources for a movement mostly concerned with Brazil´s agrarian reform. Not all sources need to be available online nor in the english language. The fact that you could not read portuguese neither make the cited source correct nor wrong :-) An unbiased portuguese speaker could be "summoned" to watch over this. There are tags that can be put in the article asking for an specialist. Perhaps it applies here.
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1499:, 2005. The leaders presented President Lula with a list of 16 demands of which included economic reform, greater public spending, and public housing. Afterwards during interviews with Reuters, many of the leaders said that they still regarded President Lula as an ally but demanded that he accelerate his promised land reforms." Again, all but the opening phrase now seems to be gone.
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2517:, there are allusions to destruction at a Monsanto farm, but no mention of what motivated the attack (I'd guess genetically modified organisms, but we should say so). Also, I don't see what "despite the farm having over 600 hectares devoted to eucalyptus growth" has to do with anything: we have not been given the context to see why that is "despite". -
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Brazilian will be against this word in general. But since Knowledge is international, and there are a lot of people who don't know Brazil's recent history in details, I can't expect they accept this word naturally. So you are right when you complain about it. It is a matter of accuracy, I think I understand it. No trouble at all.--
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2873:(b) Regarding the problem of landlessness as something that could be solved by banking on the ability of the labour market to eventually, in the long run, turn "peasants" and former small farmers into wage-workers, as historically happened in a number of capitalist countries - e.g. the United Kingdon since the XIXth. Century enclosures;
1077:"The MST movement is a Marxist-Maoist inspired movement." In what way would it be Maoist-inspired? Also, being a Marxist and being inspired by Marxism are different things. "It is a self-declared extreme-left movement": If it is self-declared as such, please refer to texts in documents and constitution that defines it as Marxist.
1295:, 2005. The leaders presented President Lula with a list of 16 demands of which included economic reform, greater public spending, and public housing. Afterwards during interviews with Reuters, many of the leaders said that they still regarded President Lula as an ally but demanded that he accelerate his promised land reforms.
1906:"The MSTâs success lies in its ability to organize and educate. Members have not only managed to secure land, therefore food security for their families, but also continue to develop a sustainable socio-economic model that offers a concrete alternative to today's globalization that puts profits before people and humanity."
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questions about anything I've put here. I'm happy to help with the article as you continue to work to improve it, just ask. I'm going to fail this article for now so it can receive the major copy edit I'm recommending. I look forward to seeing how it turns out! Thanks again for all the effort you've put in.
997:... Another thing -- MST claims the "occupations" to be constitutional, as mentioned in the article (of course, there have been arrests for some allegedly criminal acts (looting, destruction of property) carried out in the course of the occupations, as well as for alleged crimes outside of the occupations).
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From the 1980s until today, the MST hasn't enjoyed a monopoly of land occupations, many of which are carried out by a host of grassroots organizations (dissidents from the MST, trade unions, informal coalitions of land workers); however, it is the MST who is by far the most organized group dealing in
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Coming after various expressions of land activists' dissatisfaction with the slowing up of official projects for land reform during the
Roussef government (2011 seeing the lowest number of officially settled families in 16 years), the occupation could be seen as parts of the widespread accusations of
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Historically, the first statute that regulated landed property in independent Brazil was the Landed
Property Act (Lei de Terras) or Law number 601, enacted on September 18, 1850. Being drafted in a process of transition from a colonial administration based on Portuguese feudal law - in which property
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If we're invoking the INEP, let's find the statistics on their website. As the Veja story below points out, there is a "mixture" of MST schools and government-sponsored schools, and neither can claim credit for the whole. Also, the translation of "Escola
Nacional" Florestan Fernandes is "school", not
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Then let's find citations of what they are and are not. Fred
Douglas did a very pro-POV re-edit to the article, as I imagine will most people outside of Brazil. Let's find those "reliable sources" you talk about and put them in here. I've put the "" tag where the POV facts aren't backed up. Unless we
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The entire section entitled "vandalism" is poorly written to the point that I don't even think I can copy edit it. "The MST stimulates a large diversity of vandalism actsâŚIts president, Mr StĂŠdile, greeted the vandalsâŚ" If someone knows what this means to say, and can write decent English, please fix
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The article does not say that the MST must occupy it so that it can be expropriated. It suggests that the MST moves the process along, occupying the land so the a judicial process begins that may or may not result in expropriation. The articel acknowledges that the court does not always rule in the
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My issue with this is that the MST tries to defuse the suggestion that there are individual leaders as opposed to a vast number of decision makers in thousands of acampamentos and assenatamentos throughout dozens of states in Brasil. For a first time reader, it is misleading to assign such authority
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It is ok however there are other point of views, there are a lot of other things. Example: MST liasons with Hugo ChĂĄvez and the Bolivarian revolution, MST liasons with the FARC, the revolutionary agenda, the violence commited by MST against small farmers and other accusations of violence, the lost of
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As for financing from European churches: yes, I'd like to see a more solid citation on that, and it probably shouldn't go back in the article without one. But as far as value judgments go, it doesn't seem an unrespectable source of money. It's not as if someone were saying they were strongly financed
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You were the one making the claim that they were "self-declared", so the issue of presenting proofs (i.e. excerpts from programmatic texts) lie upon you. The issue at stake is not whether there are Marxists or Marxist influence in the MST, it is whether its an explicit Marxist organization. A Marxist
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I insist problem persists. We could edit the article as to reflect the includes a discussion on the issues surrounding the land ownership laws and regulations in the country, in an unbiased way that doesn't take as a start point that all property laws that assures rights of ownership to landlords are
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Added a section concerning the practice of mistica within the MST. This has been done with special regard to the influence of liberation theology, as well as drawing on contemporary examples offered by historians. This has been done as part of a college project, and I am very happy with how it turned
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since the last review. The main problems I see at the first read through are with the writing and neutrality. I think the article needs a major copy edit, mainly because it is excessively wordy. The wordiness makes the article more difficult to read and understand, and also contributes to another
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I am brazillian. For me it´s clear that the MST was responsible for those deaths and tortures. The article itself tells it. They were taken captive after the arrival of the 100 MST people. The source doesn´t explicit says the policemen were taken captive by the MST because it´s already implied: They
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Violence is a common occurrence in the Brazilian land reform conflict, perpetrated by both government authorities and the MST itself. In a notorious example, the Eldorado dos CarajĂĄs Massacre, 19 MST members were gunned down in a massive clash between police and the MST. The MST itself is violent at
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I guess I'm confused as to what you mean by being "registered." The MST is extremely organized. I'll try to get into that in the article as time permits. But the MST is a social movement, not a political party or an non-profit organization, that I know of. So the lack of registration is not to say
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The new peasant movements have been deeply influenced by the social doctrines of the Church. At one of the plenary sessions, Fray Beto, the Brazilian Catholic theologian, asked the delegates how many had been influenced by religious teachings: over 90 percent raised their hands. Popular religiosity,
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You are right when you demands documents and constitution that defines the movement as Marxist. But I hope you understand I have written "Marxist" because I thought I was being more accutate. I didn't written it for another reason besides that. As a Brazilian, it is natural I call MST of "Marxisit";
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I find many claims in this article to be dubious and seemingly biased, but one in particular is just completely unbelievable: "Many have in fact been killed, although some murders were doctored to make them look like accidents." The source doesn't link to anything. This is a wild claim to make with
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I believe this is supposedto mean that the constitution upheld this as a value previously defined in Brazilian political life, but we shouldn't have to guess and the phrase is baffling on its face. A pattern is not principled in English. It just doesn't make sense. The clause is also unnecessary to
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the phrase occurs repeatedly and is meaningless in english unless it is an official accepted translation for a term of art in Brazilian law. I believe this probably means assets in the form of land, and "landed" is a misguided attempt to make land behave as an adjective. Noting the problem and will
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The MST appeared late in the already long history of the Brazilian land question, which had already been hotly debated (as well as actually fought) into the framework of previous Brazilian politics, especially amid the Left, who generally agreed to think of it as part of a late process of Bourgeois
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In view of the numerous "problems" with this nomination, I don't believe that continuing this review in any further and then putting it On Hold to allow time for the "problems" to be addressed is the appropriate way forward. I suggest that this article is submitted for copyediting as the next step.
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Episodes of violence have happened in the Brazilian land reform conflict, perpetrated by both government authorities and the MST itself. In a notorious example, the Eldorado dos CarajĂĄs Massacre, 19 MST members were gunned down while they were blocking a national rute. The MST has also been accused
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but it doesn´t say anywhere that "The MST itself is violent at times, including cases where it has tortured and killed police officers after taking them prisoner". That´s what we have on the article, and there is no evidence, at least for me, for saying that from source 2. So: "Overall the violence
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MST is a violent movement. Period. The fact that they condemn such "violence" afterwards is only retoric political speak. The torture of the policeman is a well known fact here in Brazil, as it is the invasion of road-toll facilities and aggression against the press. It will be hard to find english
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No matter what your opinion is of who they are, the way to go about it is to keep the article under a neutral point-of-view. If you're really passionate about it, try to find an instance of their vandalism (and we know there are many) and add it to the vandalism section (with lots of citations). Go
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This article is biased towards the MST. It makes them look as freedom fighters, revolutionaries, heros, when in fact they are nothing but a bunch of vandals. And when I say vandal, I mean they break other's things without any reason at all. In my humble opinion, they should be doing something more
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If the dispute is mutually agreed upon as solved, then by all means remove the tag. However, if the person who originally raised the dispute believes the tag should still be there, that person should make it clear what is still disputed. BTW, even if you don't want to take an account, you can still
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Again, maybe a solution is to have a section on the MST objectives. The MST is independent of any political party. It is is a political movement only in the sense that is educated rural workers, via a freirian model, that have no access to education otherwise. It is political in that MST members
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Hmm. I didn't put either of the statements in there, and I don't view them as value-laden. My own main vehicle for political activism (in the U.S.) is an affinity group that has been active now for about 18 years and has systematically avoided any sort of legal registration. Are you saying that MST
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Some of members of MST have certainly been charged with criminal acts and that is mentioned several times in this article already (in fact, it is mentioned far more than the repression of MST which I believe is undue weight). That they resemble a gang is of course, your opinion. The notion that MST
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I will go through and list some of the problems I see, but the points I bring up will not be a comprehensive list, because there are problems with wordiness and POV throughout the article. So fixing just the sentences I bring up will not make this article ready to be nominated again--rather these
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he first statute that regulated landed property in independent Brazil was the Landed Property Act (Lei de Terras) or Law number 601, enacted on September 18, 1850. Being drafted in a process of transition from a colonial administration based on Portuguese feudal law - in which property depended on
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I agree with everything, especially the last point. Recently the same discussion was held in ptwiki, when an editor proposed that Veja should no longer be used as a reliable source for what he claimed was an 'obvious bias', and the proposal was rejected. As Dali-Llama said, these attempts to claim
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This section is not a fact, it is a POV. I do't thinck it should be a section like this at all, instead should be a History section. It is too controversial to say somenthing like "MSTâs actions have in fact played an important role in the strengthening of Brazilâs democratic institutions." Miguel
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I´ve read over some policies and concluded that conclusions are not allowed in wikipedia, because they are original research. "The MST itself is violent at times" can be better written "There were times the MST employed violence", which is not an interpretation, but a depicting of the facts (if it
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There is an unavoidable degree os interpretiveness in the writing of anything--with the possible exception of a dictionary. It is my understanding that the MST has shown itself to be violent at times, though that is not to say that they inherently violent or criminal. It's a difference between the
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At one moment the supects´ car is stopped "O Saveiro entrou em uma estrada vicinal e foi parado.", and the policemen get off their car to arrest the suspects; as this happenes the suspects take the opportunity, gear the car and leave "Segundo os policiais sobreviventes, assim que eles desceram do
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The MSTâs 1,800 Schools of Fundamental Education adjust their education to the realities of life in the countryside. Statistics from INEP (The National Institute of Research and Studies in Education) identify 200,000 children and young adults in attendance, and 3,900 educators in these schools. In
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Non-english language sources are okay as long as they are pertinent to the article. There is no "hard" policy against non-English language sources, only that it is "preferred" for sources to be in English. You'll notice all my sources from the vandalism section are in Portuguese. If origin for the
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You need to justify that they're succesful with citations, references from non-biased sources, etc. I have put a "citation needed" mark where these are required. Also, do not remove referenced material. The vandalism section was properly referenced and to the best of my knowlege from the article,
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I agree. It is a respectible source of support. I assume underlying meanings because of my training as an attorney. I know that Terra de Direitos, an NGO closely related with the MST, is tying to strengthen its ties with Europe. I assume that is because the MST's ties are now more linked to the
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If you want the following text:"... radical agrarian movement..." I see no problem at all. If you ask for 10 MST leaders about Marxism, the 10 will say they are Marxists, and the Marxism is the solution to society. If you visit a MST office, will see a picture of Che Guevara and Karl Marx, side by
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acknowledged land reform in Brazil as an actual need, but deprecated the MST's particular methods, instead of describing any attempt at land reform as a criminal enterprise. However, it's hard to understand what is the goal of this discussion, given the existence of reliable sources enough in the
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present opinions and judgments without clarifying in the text who made them; this is not a magazine, newspaper article or blog. As for Veja's supposed partiality, if it is to be mentioned it should also be said that those who accuse the magazine of being partial are almost invariably connected in
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before, but this article is clearly biased towards MST. I was hoping to read an article consistent with Knowledge NPOV policies, but found POV everywhere. We must strive to provide all points of view (at least the most important) to capacitate the reader to achieve his own judgments. The MST is a
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either in both sides (pro X con). The mere fact the article is listed under an "human rights" issue is disputable, as some of the movement's practices (like stealth organization and lack of institutional statutes and organizations to avoid law enforcement) resemble as much as a criminal gang as a
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Thank you for your hard work on this article, the subject is fascinating and the article covers it in depth. The referencing is great and it's clear that a lot of work has gone into this. Unfortunately I do not believe that the article yet merits good article status for a variety of reasons I
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Okay, I have read the review above and think it's quite good. Actually, I also think that the opening section is the main issue. My point, when i worked on it, was - and is - that the history of Brazilian land reform issues predates by at least one century the history of the MST and that the MST
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The entire article ended up being a piece where supportive editors pushed law interpretations that are, at best, borderline with mainstream Brazilian jurisprudence, and not-supportive editors picked isolated facts to denigrate the movement. The result is a fractured article, one that needs major
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Here's the thing. It's hard to know what a reliable source is for an article about Ľa Marxist group, But that reference is questionable and it would be better to get a citation from a newspaper. Most importantly however the source does not support the statement. The article uses "movement" as a
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Not really, unless you accuse all of Veja's readers (and it is the most read magazine in Brazil) of being somehow connected to the "Far Right". That it is not a leftist or pro-leftist magazine is something widely known, and the magazine itself never hid it, but to accuse it of being 'far right'
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A new persecution happenes and at last the runaways stop the car at a part of the MST camp and call for help: "Houve nova perseguição, encerrada somente quando os veĂculos entraram no assentamento do engenho Bananeira. No local, relataram os policiais, os supostos integrantes do MST desceram do
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is from one of Brazil's largest newspapers. They're typically NPOV and the general consensus amongst the population is that Eldorado dos CarajĂĄs was pretty much a massacre, regardless of your opinion of the MST. In the second source (the torture case), the article states that the policemen were
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I've also removed the following: "The MST has won land titles for more than 350,000 families in 2,000 settlements as a result of MST actions, and 180,000 encamped families currently await government recognition". There is no source for this, and it's a very material piece of data. The number of
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Yes there is a dispute and it is central to the debate taking place in Brasil. According to Article 186 of the constitution, the social function is performed when rural propery simulatneously meets . . . . the following requirements: (1) rational and adequate use; (2) adequate use of available
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Finally, I would like to say that, though I agree that Knowledge itself has no opinion and takes always a neutral stance, I believe this should not be stated at every line of the text, as one must not underestimate the readers' intelligence: the mere existence of a footnote appers to me to be
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or not of a general stance. If we admit this (as I must say I personally do) then this equation ("MST schools=Madrassas") would offer an evidence of bias, as equating the MST with islamic fundamentalism would be to equate two entirely different movements, in entirely different societies, with
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Hey all, working on this page as part of a college project - specifically looking to talk about the role of Mistica in the ideology of the MST. I have listed some of my planned sources below, and welcome any advice. I am not advanced or well versed at Knowledge editing, so will try to keep my
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I think that after a major copy edit and check for POV issues this article will be quite good. Sections like 'Organizational structure' and 'Education' are clear and have minimal problems (some of which I've pointed out here). Please feel free to respond to any of the points above or ask
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for its cause from individual judges - something very inportant in a juditial system based on Roman Law where trial by jury is very infrequent. I would say that judges' stances towards the MST usually ranges from empathy to deep seated hostility, active simpathies being rare, and that higher
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The paragraph about schools financed by the MST, calling them Madrassad that indoctrinate children, is highly polemic and questionable, especially the analogy with Islamic schools in the Middle East. Knowledge should be more neutral than journalistic magazines that are close to the political
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Next, backup for the police shows up and negotiations start. When the police get the chance to enter the camp, one policeman is already dead and with signs of torture. "Ao entrar no assentamento, os policiais encontraram o corpo do soldado desaparecido. Ele foi morto a tiros e, segundo a PM,
1495:"After a two week march into Brasilia from the city of Goiania, during which the movement invaded 17 parcels of private property, destroying fences and gates to build their encampments and to install their complex infrastructure, several leaders of the MST met with President Lula da Silva on
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The edits refered above are staple propaganda points from the Brazilian Right, which are repeated on a daily basis at Brazilian mainstream Media and aim at the vilification of the MST ("invasion" en lieu of "occupation", rants at the "leniency of the courts", etc., etc.). I have nothing, in
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It´ll be hard to figure it out! The best we could hope is to provide the most reliable sources from the many points of view (POV :-) this matter attracts. Let the readers figure out what the MST is for themselves :-) (By the way I did a few searchs in google, the majority of articles are in
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This article contains some major problems as listed below. So I am going to quick fail it. The article is definitely a candidate for GA, but the style and tone needs to be fixed. I suggest a major rewrite (Rewriting the whole article on a subpage of the talk page.) and then apply again.
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Praxis of Empowerment: MĂstica and Mobilization in Brazil's Landless Rural Workers' Movement Author(s): Daniela Issa Source: Latin American Perspectives , Mar., 2007, Vol. 34, No. 2, Globalizing Resistance: The New Politics of Social Movements in Latin America (Mar., 2007), pp. 124-138
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occupations, enjoying political leverage enough to turn occupation into formal expropriation for public purposes: already in 1995, out of 198 occupations carried out, 89 (45%) were organized by the MST, but these included 20,500 (65%) out of the grand total of 31,400 families involved.
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both Crown's grants (sesmarias) and primogeniture (morgadio) - to a national bourgeois independent Brazilian state, the law established that the standard mode for acquiring landed property was to be by means of a money purchase - either from the State, or for a previous private owner
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I say this because for me, I wouldn't have liked to have believed that what it says in this section was true only because I didn't understand what their sources said. Citing sources that are not in english, I think, is a dangerous practice to the verifiability of the enciclopedia.
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article would develop better by supporting itself on a larger article on the history of landed property and land reform movements in Brazil , which, however, despite the abundance of existing literary sources, remains a red link. Therefore, I shall have to do without. Thanks a lot
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which is admittedly conservative.) In this case, "well-known" is not justified by the sources presented, but it could certainly be reasonable to say that the magazine is often criticized for having a right-wing bias. I personally have issues with even that criticism, since it's
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For example, the Asentamento Estrela in the municipality of Ortigeira in Parana went through this process. The families occupied the land, a judicial process began, and eventually, INCRA came in and expropriated the land, giving the families title. I'm not sure what the dispute
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These removals are so large that it almost amounts to ignoring the article that was there before and starting over from an entirely different angle, without discussion, without citation, and with edit summaries that don't give a clue that large amounts of material were cut. --
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These families which included part of 600 families that had previously been expropriated and dislocated in 1974 from neighbouring Passo Real for the construction of a hydroelectric dam who had been joined by some other 300 families in an invasion of the Indian Reserve in
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Someone wrote:"It is an ideologically ecclectic movement" in place of "Marxist". The MST movement is a Marxist-Maoist inspired movement. It is a self-declared extreme-left movement, so it is troublesome you just saying it is an ideologically eccletic movement. It is not.
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Also I think the problem is to find a good definition about what Marxism is. So at first we should ask: What is Marxim? And later we can discuss: Do the MST fullfill the requisites so they may be called Marxists? I suggest to define Marxism in a phew lines first.
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The conclusion reached by Ms. Weinberg was such as the Brazilian government has no control over most of the schools, and that they do not follow the curriculum set forth by the Ministry of Education which calls for "pluralism of ideas" and "tolerance".
2531:"Despite" is given the typical rationalization given by the MST when it takes over farms because they are "unproductive". Having 600 ha for eucalyptus growth is not being unproductive. You're right, more explanations in that paragraph are in order.--
2017:.". It is arguably a biased data claim made from a tertiary interested party, the movement itself. Someone could look for data on IBGE, MRA and other official data repositories instead of referring to a statement coming from the organization itself.
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What is a rural property that is not performing its social function? Some people say that some of the lands occupied by the MST are productive and they should not be occupied because they are performing a social function. There is a dispute here.
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U.S. I also know that there are Friends of the MST groups throughout Europe: Italy, France, Spain, ect. I wouldn't be surprised if the MTS gets more financial support from Europe than the U.S. That was through activities spread throughout the U.S.
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PS By the way, the article does not delve on the question of Veja's ideology. What it say is about the fact that there is a lot of bad blood between the magazine and the MST, so much that it has been taken at least twice as a case-story for Media
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is clearly pro MST in the interpreation of the facts happened there and says that the activists defended themselves with rocks and sticks while the police was throwing gas bombs and shooting. That doesn't describe a massive clash in my opinion.
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The MST is a political movement besides a movement for Land Reformation. The MST have a revolutionary agenda, like the FARC, the Bolivarian revolution of Chavez, for examples. I did not agree when you say: "The more relevant question" is just
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Certainly that is an accurate statement about somethng Marxists believe, but it is not sufficient to define someone as a Marxist. For example, many anarchists would say the same. Heck, probably so would some people who identify as part of the
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MST pre-schools, for children below the age of six, there are roughly 250 educators along with another 3,000 alphabetization teachers for all ages, with roughly 30,000 students currently learning to read and write throughout the country.
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They believe in Communism Revolution, violence and death to get to the power. Definitely, MST its prejudicial to Democratic RepĂşblic of Brazil." from the section of Vandalism. POV, poorly articulated, largely incorrect and misconcieved.
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The problem may be that the sources cited are in portuguese. As for me, portuguese is not my native language, it's spanish, but I understand portuguese. So, I can tell that saying that at the Eldorado dos CarajĂĄs Massacre there was a
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I saw in anther wikapedia article a lot of different sections. This seems to facilitate giving a broad picture of the subject. For example, the is so much to say about the MST accomplishments in education. We've just scratched the
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is Far Right or not for the reader to decide and have simply stated that the megazine is known for its public, uncompromising and open hostility towards all kinds of social movements "from below", with an additional quote to support
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Maybe a possible solution is to identify Stedile as a leading spokesperson while acknowledging that there are leaders and decesion makers spread throughout the movement. The MST is much larger than one man. Stedile is not Antonio
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The article is now organized so that all sides can work together to present a neutral article. If someone has legal authority to cite that suggests that the Constitution does not require the Feds to expropriate land, then it can be
2353:"that the policemen were chasing individuals who called for help from the MST settlement. The police officers were then approached by a group of about 100 workers from the MST settlement, at which point they were taken captive."
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I've also removed "Since 1985, the MST has occupied land where they state they have established cooperative farms, constructed houses, schools for children and adults and clinics, promoted indigenous cultures and a healthy and
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the fusion of biblical lessons, and religious values has had a direct effect in stimulating the new generation of peasant leaders, along with Marxism, traditional communitarian values, and modern feminist and nationalist ideas.
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The Chico Mendes Center for Agroecology, founded May 15, 2004 in Ponat Grossa, ParanĂĄ, Brazil on land formerly used by Monsanto to grow genetically modified crops, intends to produce organic, native seed to distribute through
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According to MST's ideologues, the allgedly efficiency gained by this arrangement was by no means general, as since 1850 Brazilian landed property management was tied to the particular interests of a single class - the rural
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Liberation Theology's Critique of the Developmentalist Worldview: Implications for Religious Environmental Engagement Author(s): Stephen B. Scharper Source: Environmental Philosophy , Vol. 3, No. 1 (Spring 2006), pp. 47-69
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Maybe we could rewrite the last section, perhaps it is not readable enough in english. But I suggest to mantain the idea that it is not clear, accourding to the presented sources, if they were or not members at the time.
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The following all seem to have been removed from the article in the last month or so. Is any of this false? If so, would someone please say so explicitly? Otherwise, it would seem this information belongs in the article.
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I removed a translated version of a controversial sentencing that was later turned over in higher courts. It is my understanding that direct quotes from court proceedings cannot be used as primary sources in Knowledge.
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The influence of the Pastoral Land Commission (CPT) in the formation of the Landless Rural Workers Movement (MST): brief theoretical-documentary analysis of the role of religion in social conflicts in Brazil (1954-1984)
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Maybe the solution is to have one section of this article on underlying political ideology. But it does not seem fair to flood a reader with that one issue, whether the MST is Marxist, when there is so much else going
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However, it is quite pacific, or should be, that MST is no law enforcement agency and has no mandate to "take the law into its hands" even if the highly controversial interpretation of law it holds is to be accepted.
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That I'm aware, there aren't seperate organizations within the MST. The MST has a number of sectors, including (1) Production,Cooperation and Environment (2)Human Rights, (3)Education (4) Health and (5) Culture.
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from the end of the Sedile quote in the Present section: "and that the MST's future perspectives depended on the political stance of the working class in general." -- seems vague to the point of meaninglessness.
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Perhaps the first paragraph would fit better in the previous section; and I believe that some of the current paragraphs about the MST should be moved from the first section to here (see comments about the first
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I will continue to review this article. I cannot at this point in the review see any strong grounds for quick failing this nomination. But, again it's not clear whether this article will pass the requirements.
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At this point of time, discussing Veja's particular ideology is already a non-issue that should perhaps be moved to the magazine's article. What this article say, supporting itself on various quotes taken from
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I have read the other sentences and I am still thinking about them. But I think that I agree with some of them, so this dispute will finish soon. However I will have to add more information (in a new section)--
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to help write articles about squatting in every country, or drop a message on the talkpage about something else you'd like to see covered. This is just one of many ways to counter systemic bias on Knowledge!
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principle, about exposing criticism to the MST in the edits, but such criticism should be made by using of references and authorities (books, academic journal articles) instead of fuming unsubstantiated rants
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recognize they have a voice in the direction of their country. The movement is revolutionary in the sense that, as many countries, the poor are not integrated into civil society and political participation.
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This is quite a long article, but that has not been the main reason for the delay. At this point in the review, I've no clear idea as to whether this article will make GA-status by the end of this review:
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LIBERATION THEOLOGY IN BRAZIL Author(s): ClĂĄudio Carvalhaes and FĂĄbio Py Source: CrossCurrents , MARCH 2017, Vol. 67, No. 1, BLACK RELIGIONS IN BRAZIL / RELIGIĂES NEGRAS NO BRASIL (MARCH 2017), pp. 157-17
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This happened mostly by means of revitalizing ideologies centered on a fabled, millenarian return an earlier, pre-bourgeois social order, as was the case in the 1890s Canudos War and the 1910s Contestado
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I also think articles should use words that the most people can understand where possible, and that concepts that are not going to be familiar to most casual readers should be explained in the prose.
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I've removed the sources put forth by Fred Douglas. On the "JoĂŁo Pedro StĂŠdile" source, he is not a neutral third-party source. While I don't dispute the fact, I'm sure we can find a better source from
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This is not true. There is not a rule saying that the land must be occupied so you have to expropriate it. Besides, sometimes the Courts rules against the MST and they have to leave the occupied land.--
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From the end of the 2nd paragraph in the Historical antecedents section: "Therefore, land reform was understood by many Brazilian Marxist activists and authors as a necessary part of a late process of
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The grammar in this section is considerably better than the first, and it is a bit more encyclopaedic. However, there are numerous spelling mistakes - I've corrected some, but more remain uncorrected.
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It seems this user has a particular gripe with the MST. Though some parts of the edits may have been for the better, I think we can agree that inserting terms like "fallacy" isn't exactly POV either.
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as for the strongly financie by european churches, that may be true. But again, that implies that it is less than an indigineous brasilian movement. Thus, it would be nice to see some proof of that.'
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natural resources and presearvation of the environment; (3) complaince with the provisions which regulate labor relations; and (4) exploitation which favors the well-being of the owners and workers."
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limited opportunities to exercise squatter's rights, therefore favouring the historical concentration of landed property that became one of the hallmarks of modern Brazilian social history (see ).
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REWRITE THE SECTION TO WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN ABOVE, (I don't do it myself because, as i said, English is not my native tongue and I would rather having someone who is native rewrite the section.
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looks to be strongly non-compliant, but I mostly consider the Lead at the end of the article - so it might be fixable during the review. So non-compliant at present with clause 1 (b).
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Removed "MST It´s a shame to Brazil and the order in Brazil. The movement destroys, kill, and spank people. The government does NOTHING TO CHANGE IT. The army must be used. And soon!
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or a third-party think-tank. I've also removed Mitsue Morissawa. The publisher "ExpressĂŁo Popular" is a partisan source closely related to the MST movement. It is not impartial. See
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Because the Marxist label that someone attached to the MST is all that is being discussed about this article. The more relevant question is "what is the social function of land.
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Then about 100 members of the MST´s camp appear and at this moment 2 policemen are taken captive (source doesn´t say if it was by the suspects or the MST) and the other scapes.
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source is closely related to the subject matter (IE: A Portuguese source for an article on a Brazilian subject), it shouldn't be hard for us to obtain peer-review of sources).--
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2702:--On Veja: This is an old argument at the English wikipedia, and one which on occasion I've participated in. As I've said before: Veja's bias is not self-admitted (IE: unlike
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Actually this article mentions many examples of alleged MST violence but very few examples of violence against the MST from their opponents outside of the opening paragraph.
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Most of this section is about land reform, but the MST is discussed in the first, part of the fourth paragraph, the fifth and the last paragraph. The next section is called
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I would guess that both "eclectic" and "Marxist" are accurate in a Brazilian context, but that "Marxist" tends to have a narrower meaning in the English-speaking world. --
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This is an important strategy of the MST and serves to maintain an ongoing and direct flow of communication between member-families and their representatives. Coordinators
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Somenthing else: there are a Violence section and a Crime and Vandalism section. I thinck it should all be together in a Violence section about violence from and to MST.
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on Knowledge. If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the
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It appears to be well referenced (but I've not checked any of the references), so that appears to be a strong "tick in the box" (well in clauses 2 (a) & (b)).
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There is no citation for this. its like suggesting that the civil rights movement did not have a legal registration. what does that mean. what are you implying?
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I did not agree with you. There are individual leaders. Althought there are some decision makers in several acampamentos, there are central leaders.--
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devoid of any political legitimacy whatsoever. That's something associated with Far Right thinking: an appeal at solving a social question by purely
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It appears that the disputes have been worked through and changes made in the article to reflect the compromise. How long do we keep the warning up?
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I'm not sure what you mean be "fix" the Constitutional Authority section. It merely quotes the sections of the constitution at issue in this debate.
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It appears that the disputes have been worked through and changes made in the article to reflect the compromise. How long do we keep the warning up?
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I think it would be useful to talk about the politics of MST a greater length; trying to capture that in one sentence in the article is unlikely. --
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for reasons why "some scholars" is problematic. there's also a singular-plural agreement issue here. Also, what does quantitatively better mean?
2821:"those who accuse the magazine of being partial are almost invariably connected in some way to the Left, either physiologically or ideologically"
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The ideas written here don't match with the sources that they cite, simple and clear. I don't mean to argue if the MST uses or has used violence.
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and this is about the formation of the MST, but some sentences in the second section repeat what is stated in the first section. For example:
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The article needs a good clean up and copy edit. Some sections appear to be fair reasonable, but others lack a neutral viewpoint and clarity.
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accurate. Do not edit out a reference unless you intend to discredit said source. Otherwise, lot's of new information--let's keep it going!--
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If you want, I can provide you with a more detailed summary of all the problems. But they aren't hard to identify.
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accompanied by violence as fazendeiros hire gunmen to intimidate, and not infrequently kill, members of the MST.
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I'm don't know whether that is the case or not. Someone else would have to cite legal authority for that fact.
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The founding process itself was very much connected with Catholic Church base organizations such as ...
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4186:I'll take this. Just give me a few days. Thanks,
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