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The name of this Irish secondary qualification is
Leaving Certificate. Each word is always capitalised in every source that mentions it (I selected an official Irish government website and a major newspaper to show this convention), not just some. Please have a search of your own if you'd like to see
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The article really isn't "fine" because at various points it describes aspects of the leaving cert without warning the reader that the text being read at that point is historical, then the reader reaches a point where the article continues "then in year X, things changed." It is only at this point
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The article is excessively long and confusing, particularly because the exam system is described in various different sections of the article, then the prose performs sudden handbrake turns when it goes on to describe more recent changes to the way the exams operate. This produces an unfortunate
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that the reader understands that the previous paragraphs are outdated, they are not descriptions of the current state of affairs, which follows the statement "then in year X." This confusion occurs a few times during the article, which is playing ping-pong against the reader's skull.
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whiplash effect in the mind of the disappointed reader who thought s/he was reading current information up to that point but finds that it is in fact outdated, with following paragraphs describing changes that have been introduced to the curriculum or how the exam is organised.
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Consensus that the existing DAB is necessary, as there are other countries that use the term "Leaving
Certificate" to a meaningful extent. Additional rough consensus that the capitalized form "Leaving Certificate" is widely enough used to be preferable to sentence case.
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Looking over the article it appears fine. All of it's information is up to date and it does not conflate past and present information. The two are kept separate. As it currently stands there is no need to try and update the article because it already is updated.
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This will be tricky, unfortunately, because some of the information described here – before changes were introduced on different occasions by the
Department of Education – remain current while some of the information is deadwood. It's a sad and chaotic mess.
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I have spent four hours cleaning up the article but further clean up is needed by someone patient enough to pick apart and excise many paragraphs of historical information so that only the current situation is described.
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Again the article is fine in this regard. It doesn't switch between the past and present as you are saying here, all of it's information is up to date. Do you have anything you would consider an example of this?
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Leaving Certificate is the official name of this specific qualification, it is thus a proper name and proper noun, and both words should be capitalised.
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