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Could I support Keith D's suggestion above- I think we need to consider standardising the titles, and perhaps the wider structure of articles across local election pages. I am aware of different pages adopting different naming styles - some with 'City' or 'County' between place and 'election', and
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As per COMMONNAME and IGNOREALLRULES. Given that most of the media, ordinary people (off-line) and the fact that no changes have been suggested until this month do not use the full name, it can be concluded that Knowledge is best served by following that philosophy. Sometimes policy is best left
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Does that not prove the point though? That there is no convention across Knowledge which fits the attitude of "there's a policy for everything"? Exceptions exist to prove rules. "Leeds Council election" works in its own context, just as London 2012 does not. Sometimes it's best not to force
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It needed discussing before any action was taken, as I said it needs to be consistent, not just for this year. In other metropolitan districts such as Wakefield or Bolton, the most commonly used term is Wakefield Council election or Bolton Council election and I suggest it might be in
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Support the idea of discussion both for names and content of local election articles. But regarding content, there will never be constitency because some councils acquire articles on every regular election (with full ward results etc) while many others do not.
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for consistency, although the consistent titles are flawed in having capital C for council. In two-tier areas some of the current titles are darned confusing. Any change should be a universal one not a change to one page.
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some without. From my experience there are a number of us here who frequently create, update and maintain articles related to local elections, so perhaps we should consider forming a United Kingdom local elections
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There appears to be a mixture of usage both with and without the City, for example Birmingham has 4 years with and one without. May be time to look more widely and see if we can standardise across the patch.
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where you can put your case on how those article titles should be renamed. This a major issue which covers all the English council election articles, whatever the year. It should not be done by
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Because this is the correct name. Surely using correct designations for all local election article names leads to a consistent outcome? If that means changing other article names then so be it.
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I would like to see consistency because that's what people here call it. What you consider relevant might not be relevant to others. Continual badgering doesn't necessarily make you right.
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moved by an editor who then edited the redirect with the result that the move could not be reverted. There have been a batch of similar pattern-breaking page moves, as can be seen at
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But what if they were wrong to begin with? If someone makes a thousand articles all based on the same initital template that has an error, then it's OK to continue with that error?
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COMMONNAME isn't relevant. This isn't some long-winded scientific name, or other reason to use it. IAR suggests moving them all to this standard - do you agree? If not, why not?
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where we could all work constructively together and have a space to discuss things like this, and try to reach a concensus for the benefit of all local election articles.
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More than a week has gone by with 4 users support the page moved back and 3 oppose it. So the consensus is that the page should be reverted back to its original title.
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But one change can be the trailblazer. Looks bad that all the others are incorrect. This is being used as a test case, and the others can follow suit.
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to the naming conventions to begin with, I thought I'd take up the initative. Shame no-one else has put any effort into these articles.
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Sounds good, Keith. I don't know how active those two projects are, maybe the two could be combined if they are quiet. Thanks.
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clinches it. The website for Leeds calls it "Leeds City Council Elections". Hard to argue against this. Surely it's
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Well, if you disagree with the long-established pattern of the council election articles then go to somewhere like
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There is no such thing as "Leeds Council". The full name of council should be used (one that is correct is
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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
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Nice try, but you're wrong. None of the page-move votes have any policy based rationale behind them.
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for possible existing projects - may be a worrkgrough of one of those may be appropriate.
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probably comes into it too. Note too that at one point someone moved this page to
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and other aspects of democratic decision-making. For more information, visit
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says otherwise. Your continuing badgering won't alter the majority vote.
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Reading COMMONNAME a bit more, then the upcoming Olympics should be at
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.
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Right, 7 days have gone - stick a fork in this one, it's done.
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Failed. This is correct name, should not be changed. --
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